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Old 02-16-2003, 09:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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best place to get 4044's

did my taxes, time to get some springs. So, as the subject states, where is the cheapest place to get the rancho 4044's.?
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Old 02-16-2003, 09:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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cheapest place i have found is www.summitracing.com I do beleive they are on national back order right now
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Old 02-17-2003, 05:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Rancho part # is 44044, might help when you talk to vendors.
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Old 02-17-2003, 07:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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specialty parts is running a special on the black diamond variant of the 44044's. $120/per?
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Old 02-17-2003, 08:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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What is the difference between the black diamond springs and the Rancho springs? Spring rates, arch, length, durability, number of leaves, warantee, ect...
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Old 02-17-2003, 11:04 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The rancho's are probably higher quality.
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Old 02-17-2003, 12:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Buy them from this guy if your in a hurry and if they are on back order.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...hreadid=113568
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Buy them from this guy if your in a hurry and if they are on back order.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113568


that link is bad



this one should do the trick



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Old 02-17-2003, 02:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The rancho's are probably higher quality.
you can't have seen the BD springs if you're saying that.
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Old 02-17-2003, 07:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I live about 30 minutes from summit. Bought mine there!
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Old 02-18-2003, 09:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I got mine from Rock Equipment. He had them in stock when everyone else was backordered. Decent price, good service, fast shipping.
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Old 02-18-2003, 05:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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One of the guys at marlin crawler said he used procomps version of the 44044. Has anyone tried these?
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One of the guys at marlin crawler said he used procomps version of the 44044. Has anyone tried these?
i have bronen 2 sets of pro comp springs in half. the first set broke on the second trail i took them on. they sent me a new pair and they broke as well. literly snaped in half.



i use all pro springs and they have lasted over 2 years with out fail or sagging. you get what you pay for. www.allprooffroad.com
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Old 02-18-2003, 09:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I have been looking at the all-pro's. I have heard that the 44044's are almost as good, and alot cheaper.

I will stay away from the pro comps.

Are the black diamond springs any good? If they are good I will try a pair.

Does anyone have any flex pics they could send me?
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Old 02-18-2003, 09:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
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will this setup give me too much lift, I am going to stay with 33's.
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will this setup give me too much lift, I am going to stay with 33's.

what truck? what drop hanger if any? how long of shackle. should give about 5" of lift + shackle + drop hanger. do you get it?


taken from the toyota faq44044 Springs

44044s are Rancho Jeep Wagoneer Lift Springs.

Length: 47”
Center Pin split (front/rear) 22.5"/24.5"
Bushing: 3”
Lift: 5.25 - 5.5”
Cost: $250

44044's do not (by themselves) move your axle forward. They are the same length on the front half as stock toys (22.5"). While they do move the axle forward because of the lift they provide, when they compress to the point that they are flat, it's the same." Estimates 1/2" of actual axle relocation forward.

(Length is eye to eye)
(Lift is approximate and uses 1.5” longer than stock shackles giving 3/4” of lift)
(Cost is for both sides incl. shipping/give or take)

Wagoneer Springs

“Waggy Springs”

These are stock Jeep Wagoneer Springs

Length: 47”
Bushing: 3”
Lift: 3.5 - 3.75”
Cost: $160

Cost is new from JcWhitney: $78 each
Part No: 07RJ2047B 5 leaf
Part No: 07RJ2047P 7 leaf

Used should be cheap and come out of mid seventies to mid eighties waggies. 7 leaf is supposed to be the ones you look for.

(Length is eye to eye)


also.

Yes, you can run the 44044's with a drop hanger (i would not recommend this due to too much lift) or you can run them in the stock front hanger with some minor trimming of the spring bushing. I recommend a 2 1/2" rear shackle in the stock postion (Performance Products make a really nice bent style for about $40.00, I highly recommend them.) If you use 44044's with the drop you will get 5" of lift plus the amount of the dropped hanger. 44044's in the stock postion with a 2 1/2" rear shackle nets you about 5 1/2" of lift on a 85 w/ 22r this is PLENTY for 35's with no trimming at all. You can do 37's with some minor trimming. You also have to weld a spacer on the drivers side spring perch (85 yota axle) in order to level out the ride. I used a 3/8' plate that did the trick perfect.

You should also run bumpstops no matter what springs you have to make them last.








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Old 02-19-2003, 01:15 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I have been looking at the all-pro's. I have heard that the 44044's are almost as good, and alot cheaper.
they are actually near the same price, or more expensive depending on where you buy them. I personally would go for all pros only because they are within $10 of the same price, and they are custom designed for toyotas, and hard 4 wheeling. the 44044 was designed to be spring under, and the extra leverage of being spring over can cause more problems... but from what i have seen, they both work, and most people who run the APOR springs, are quite impressed.

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Old 03-15-2003, 09:59 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I realize the thread is a month old but I just wanted to let everyone know that summit's price is $123 per spring and $5 each spring to ship. And 4WPW according to ext 5100 he said they are $127 per spring and he could reduce them to $106 each but shipping would be higher. Total was $258.98 shipped to my door if I buy from them. my .02
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Old 03-15-2003, 10:18 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: best place to get 4044's

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did my taxes, time to get some springs. So, as the subject states, where is the cheapest place to get the rancho 4044's.?

wow, so that's what 4044's are... All these years I had no clue.

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Old 03-15-2003, 10:41 AM   #20 (permalink)
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The price actualy went down a couple of cents. Im just waiting on that damn check.
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