Lincoln SP-175 Plus vs. Millermatic 175 - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

biggnome · 02-17-2003, 02:46 PM

I'm looking for personal preferences. What you guys use yours for and how you like it. Thanks for any replies.

Rubicrawler · 02-17-2003, 03:24 PM

We've done the whole Lincoln vs. Miller to death

The bottom line, IMO, is that they are both great machines. I happen to have a Lincoln SP-175 Plus that I am very happy with. Get the best price/value that you can and buy it from a reputable dealer in your area.

Good luck!

redrangie · 02-17-2003, 04:04 PM

The only difference I know is the Gun. I like the Lincoln better as it is just a bit smaller and fits in some places better than others.

j

Independent4x · 02-17-2003, 05:33 PM

check out the HOBART 175 as a cheaper alternative to the millermatic. Excellent machine for the $$$$$

BruthDoobie · 02-17-2003, 06:39 PM

I have the Hobart 175, and I'm very happy with it. If this is for home fab, and you're buying new, I don't think you can go wrong with the Hobart. Save the $$$ and put it twoards materials.

biggnome · 02-17-2003, 07:13 PM

I don't care about the hobart. Everybody pushes the Hobart 175. These welders aren't that expensive. So I'm not worried about saving money for other stuff. Thanks for the input anyways.

BruthDoobie · 02-17-2003, 08:20 PM

Expensive doesn't mean better. The Hobart and Miller have the same gun and most of the same internals because they're made by the same company. I'm certain the Miller has more (forget the exact part) copper made connectors and the Hobart's are aluminum.

I'm not trying to shove Hobart down your throat, nor do I receive commission everytime one is sold. If you want to spend the extra $200 for the Miller or Lincoln, that's your decision. Enjoy

Big DW · 02-17-2003, 10:07 PM

when I had my own Sheet Metal Shop, we had Millers and Lincolns...both wre great welders...the millers always seemed to have fewer problems...my 2 cents...one of my welders said he liked the millers...he said they produced a better more consistent weld...this is from a guy that makes his living welding...

LAME · 02-18-2003, 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by BruthDoobie
Expensive doesn't mean better. The Hobart and Miller have the same gun and most of the same internals because they're made by the same company. I'm certain the Miller has more (forget the exact part) copper made connectors and the Hobart's are aluminum.

I'm not trying to shove Hobart down your throat, nor do I receive commission everytime one is sold. If you want to spend the extra $200 for the Miller or Lincoln, that's your decision. Enjoy

The internal drive parts on a Miller are AL, not plastic like a Hobart.

I have both Miller and Lincoln welders, I like both products. I would go with whatever has the best dealer in your area.

dog walker · 02-18-2003, 08:31 AM

I beleive that Lincoln makes the best welding machines and always has. I've always used Lincolns until I bought my last welder (Hobart) Talk about a peice of crap! I don't know if I just got screwed, or if Hobart just sucks, I beleive its a bit of both though. Incase anyone does'nt know, Hobart is made by Miller.

My vote, buy Lincoln....

morpheus · 02-18-2003, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by dog walker
anyone does'nt know, Hobart is made by Miller.

Hobart and Miller are both made by Illinois Tool Works. http://www.itw.com/

- jack

LAME · 02-18-2003, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by dog walker
I beleive that Lincoln makes the best welding machines and always has. I've always used Lincolns until I bought my last welder (Hobart) Talk about a peice of crap! I don't know if I just got screwed, or if Hobart just sucks, I beleive its a bit of both though. Incase anyone does'nt know, Hobart is made by Miller.

My vote, buy Lincoln....

What model?

I don't doubt you, but I also have a 35 year old Hobart in the garage I just got for $50.

biggnome · 02-18-2003, 07:06 PM

Hobart 175 $549
Millermatic 175 $660
Lincoln SP175 Plus $695

All these prices are shipped to my door. Local dealer can't come close enough.

OOP'S · 02-18-2003, 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by LAME

What model?

I don't doubt you, but I also have a 35 year old Hobart in the garage I just got for $50.

There is no comparison of the quality of a 35-year-old welder to the stuff they build now days. They used better quality materials in the old day. I used to have a Lincoln 250amp ac/dc. That thing had almost a 100% duty cycle. I was not using it so I gave it to a friend and I took his little Lincoln ac welder.

Either one of the two welders that you mentioned are good for home shop use. I have a Lincoln SP170T and it works great

02-17-2003, 02:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
biggnome Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11567 Location: NY Posts: 180	Lincoln SP-175 Plus vs. Millermatic 175 I'm looking for personal preferences. What you guys use yours for and how you like it. Thanks for any replies.

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Rubicrawler Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2037 Location: Brentwood, CA 150 mi. from the 'Con Posts: 5,834	We've done the whole Lincoln vs. Miller to death The bottom line, IMO, is that they are both great machines. I happen to have a Lincoln SP-175 Plus that I am very happy with. Get the best price/value that you can and buy it from a reputable dealer in your area. Good luck! __________________ Mark Langford KI6TMK '86 CJ7, ProRock60's, 4.88's/Detroits/35 Spline Alloys/CTM's, TBI 350, 700R4, 4:1 D300 w/Twin Stick, 17" x 8.5" Trail Ready HD Aluminum beadlocks, 37x13.5x17 Toyo MT's Dysfunctional Rockcrawlers (TDO)

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redrangie Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11072 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,043	The only difference I know is the Gun. I like the Lincoln better as it is just a bit smaller and fits in some places better than others. j __________________ forgings design dot com metal furniture \| fabrication \| decor new \| rustic \| recycled

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Independent4x technical expert Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8755 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 2,188	check out the HOBART 175 as a cheaper alternative to the millermatic. Excellent machine for the $$$$$ __________________ Matt, Owner: Independent4x www.independent4x.com 804-550-0480: 9am-6pm EST UFWDA Life Member - http://www.ufwda.org/ Full Service Fabrication Shop & Retail Store located in Richmond, Va. for all your OffRoad needs: featuring Sway-A-Way, WARN, ARB/OME, AEV, Advance Adapters, TeraFlex, Trailready, Currie, QA1, Beard Seats, Interco Tire, D.O.M. Tube to length, etc. - call or PM

02-17-2003, 06:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
BruthDoobie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 16963 Location: not California Posts: 312	Hobart I have the Hobart 175, and I'm very happy with it. If this is for home fab, and you're buying new, I don't think you can go wrong with the Hobart. Save the $$$ and put it twoards materials.

02-17-2003, 07:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
biggnome Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11567 Location: NY Posts: 180	I don't care about the hobart. Everybody pushes the Hobart 175. These welders aren't that expensive. So I'm not worried about saving money for other stuff. Thanks for the input anyways.

02-17-2003, 08:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
BruthDoobie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 16963 Location: not California Posts: 312	Expensive doesn't mean better. The Hobart and Miller have the same gun and most of the same internals because they're made by the same company. I'm certain the Miller has more (forget the exact part) copper made connectors and the Hobart's are aluminum. I'm not trying to shove Hobart down your throat, nor do I receive commission everytime one is sold. If you want to spend the extra $200 for the Miller or Lincoln, that's your decision. Enjoy

02-17-2003, 10:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
Big DW Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9950 Location: Lodi, CA Posts: 1,060	when I had my own Sheet Metal Shop, we had Millers and Lincolns...both wre great welders...the millers always seemed to have fewer problems...my 2 cents...one of my welders said he liked the millers...he said they produced a better more consistent weld...this is from a guy that makes his living welding... __________________ [SIZE="4"][COLOR="Blue"]Operator, Quick...give me the number for 911!!![/COLOR][/SIZE]

02-18-2003, 08:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
dog walker Discount! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 156 Location: Orangevale, CA Posts: 6,788	I beleive that Lincoln makes the best welding machines and always has. I've always used Lincolns until I bought my last welder (Hobart) Talk about a peice of crap! I don't know if I just got screwed, or if Hobart just sucks, I beleive its a bit of both though. Incase anyone does'nt know, Hobart is made by Miller. My vote, buy Lincoln.... __________________ Jeff Fretwell 72 FJ40 67 FJ45 83 Toyota 4x4 LB

02-18-2003, 07:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
biggnome Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11567 Location: NY Posts: 180	Hobart 175 $549 Millermatic 175 $660 Lincoln SP175 Plus $695 All these prices are shipped to my door. Local dealer can't come close enough.

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