How does a 37" MTR measure up to a 36" Swamper? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Rerard · 02-17-2003, 10:32 PM

I have 36" bias ply swampers right now and I think they are the perfect size but I want something a little more road friendly.. I wana try an MTR (well actually 4 of them) but im not sure if I should get the 35s or 37s.

Motornoggin · 02-17-2003, 10:45 PM

You could always get the radial swamper in 36. Otherwise, go for the 37 ( If you have the gearing) Most people don't wish they had gotten smaller tires.

Rerard · 02-17-2003, 10:56 PM

Yah I was thinking about maybe a radial 36.. oh well not like I have the money anyway, but who knows.. maybe uncle Sam will be nice this year.

Paul Gagnon · 02-17-2003, 11:51 PM

Can't really say on the bias ply Swamper but the Swamper Radial measures in at 36" and the MT/R mesures 36.5" I'm happy with the on road performance of the Swamper Radial but the MT/R is much quieter and probably has a longer tread life. Pricewise I think they are very close.

Rerard · 02-17-2003, 11:55 PM

Your on a 7" wheel though arent you Paul? Mine measure about 34.5" but thats on a 10".

Paul Gagnon · 02-17-2003, 11:58 PM

Yeah I'm on a 7" wheel and the MT/Rs that were measured are on an 8" wheel. When I measured mine it was off the truck with less than 10psi in the tire and the tire was brand new.

wngrog · 02-18-2003, 05:57 AM

A bias ply Swamper 36 and a MTR 37 are close to the same height, much closer than the 35" MTR.

If you had 36 x 12.50 radial swampers the 35" would be closer...

kjp98TJ · 02-18-2003, 07:19 AM

i've seen several pics with tapes that show the 35's at usually less than 34" with 8" rims on the vehicles. lotsa cake for a 33" tire.

Paul Gagnon · 02-18-2003, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wngrog
If you had 36 x 12.50 radial swampers the 35" would be closer...

I disagree from what I have seen the 36x12.50 is so close to the size of the 37" MT/R that is can be used as a spare.

Amanda G · 02-18-2003, 05:27 PM

Kjell, when I was looking at tires to buy I thought the exact same thing, and in the end I'm glad I bought the 37's.. (even tho they still aren't mounted LOL). If I had bought the 35s, I would have been kicking my self in the ass for not gettin the 37s. Now I just gotta give her more lift to fit them!! LOL

BTW, wanna help??

Get the 37s dude, you can't be having smaller tires than a GIRL!

darkfader · 02-18-2003, 09:19 PM

i got the same set up bias 36's and they ride like shit i need some 37 mtrs now. My friend has 37 mtrs and they are 36" on a 10" rim on a jeep

Monty'01 · 02-18-2003, 09:37 PM

Seems the consensus agrees with me Kjell. Go with the 37's

Than I'll get 35's and still have smaller tires than Countrygirl.

Amanda G · 02-19-2003, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monty'01
Seems the consensus agrees with me Kjell. Go with the 37's Than I'll get 35's and still have smaller tires than Countrygirl.

Oh Mike, you STILL haven't come by to see them!! They are sittin in my garage. I swear I saw you the other day while I was in the EB too..

MINE ARE BIGGER THAN MIKES!!!

Kjell, if you want, I think you can come take a look at mine since they are un-mounted and see if you like them LOL

FearMe · 02-19-2003, 11:55 AM

I picked up 4 brand new 35X12.5X15 MTR's last night. Got curious so I measured one. Sitting on the floor with no wheel....the bead's sit 8" apart, the width is no way near 12.5, closer to 10 something and that's stretching it and the height on them was 34 3/4.

Rerard · 02-19-2003, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Country Girl

Kjell, if you want, I think you can come take a look at mine since they are un-mounted and see if you like them LOL

Your kind far though just to go look at tires.. why dont you just come to PC with Mike and I some time? We have been going on a semi regular basis.

Amanda G · 02-19-2003, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rerard

Your kind far though just to go look at tires.. why dont you just come to PC with Mike and I some time? We have been going on a semi regular basis.

Dood, make my EB reliable to where it won't die whenever I go to Walmart and I might...

I'm not that far, I can make it to Watt on 50 in 25 minutes or less...

Are you guys going this Saturday for Dane's thingy? I *might* make it out...gotta see. One of my 35's isn't holding air right now

I'm thinking I might try to get those 37s mounted for the heck of it.

They won't fit well, but who cares

james west · 02-19-2003, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul Gagnon
Pricewise I think they are very close.

are you CRAZY?

bias ply swampers are half the price

Amanda G · 02-19-2003, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by james west

are you CRAZY?

bias ply swampers are half the price

www.tirerack.com
37 12.5 15 MTRs are $169 a piece

and from http://www.4wheelonline.com/supswamradts.html
35 12.5 15 TSL Radial is Regular Price: $259.95Winter Sale Price: $181.95

Whos crazy?

Rerard · 02-19-2003, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Country Girl

Dood, make my EB reliable to where it won't die whenever I go to Walmart and I might...
I'm not that far, I can make it to Watt on 50 in 25 minutes or less... Are you guys going this Saturday for Dane's thingy? I *might* make it out...gotta see. One of my 35's isn't holding air right now I'm thinking I might try to get those 37s mounted for the heck of it. They won't fit well, but who cares

I might come... dunno yet.

Paul Gagnon · 02-19-2003, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by james west

are you CRAZY?

bias ply swampers are half the price

The question was about RaADIiial Swampers vs. MT/R. Methinks yooose the craazzyy one.

darkfader · 02-20-2003, 11:45 AM

Where can you get 37 mtr's for the cheapest tire rack $169 or people say Wal Mart or Sam's club.

Amanda G · 02-20-2003, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nomayota
Where can you get 37 mtr's for the cheapest tire rack $169 or people say Wal Mart or Sam's club.

My 37's came from www.tirerack.com and it was $726 shipped to my door, They were only $167 at that time tho, they are 2 bucks more expensive now.

I've heard walmart and sams club, but they have to order that and I dont' know if they tack on a order charge or what... Call and see

Dannyboy · 02-20-2003, 02:54 PM

I bought 35X12.50 MTRs a little over a year ago for $148 each with road hazard and install. One day I walked into my Goodyear dealer and told him that I wasn't buying tires that day, but would when they were on a great sale. He said that like a month and a half later they would run a "Spike Sale" where they sell tires for a couple days at incredible prices. Well I haven't seen anyone get one cheaper, up until I needed a spare and discount tire happened to have a used (still had all tread and even paint) on the tread that they sold me for $69. Not a bad place to call and see if they have anything.

axle59 · 02-20-2003, 08:54 PM

4 wheel parts is usually pretty close on prices, plus they ALWAYS have free shipping. And on top of all that you can get their road hazard warranty on any tire they sell. Wal Mart, Discount, and the rest of em wont give a warranty on MT's.

sleepertoy · 02-20-2003, 10:35 PM

I'm a big proponent of buying local. If 4-wheel parts is all you got, then so be it. Myself, I don't care for their restocking fees and such. I was forcibly upgraded to an MSD igntion setup after buying some WARN lights. I didn't like the WARNs and ended up with IPFs instead but they wanted to charge me a restocking fee (lights were unopened). So, I only buy there now when I have no other choice. I probably would charge a restocking fee for open items myself but for unopened it seems a little unreasonable.

To avoid loosing the money I ended up buying an MSD setup since they didn't have a damn thing otherwise I was interested in.

Oh yeah, I have 35" MT/Rs and they are sweet meats. I would run 37s but I'm not quite ready to chop out anymore sheet metal. Had to cut both my bumper and fender with 35s plus get creative with a hammer on the inside of the wheel well. But, they no longer rub when fully stuffed.

02-17-2003, 10:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rerard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5869 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,490	How does a 37" MTR measure up to a 36" Swamper? I have 36" bias ply swampers right now and I think they are the perfect size but I want something a little more road friendly.. I wana try an MTR (well actually 4 of them) but im not sure if I should get the 35s or 37s.

02-17-2003, 10:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Motornoggin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13268 Location: Hillsbororegon Posts: 1,502	You could always get the radial swamper in 36. Otherwise, go for the 37 ( If you have the gearing) Most people don't wish they had gotten smaller tires. __________________ 16543, 16593, 16676, 16736, 16858, 16940, 16987, 17091, 17157, 17298 I did...did you?

02-17-2003, 11:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
Paul Gagnon Poseur SUV Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 610 Location: Sherwood Park, Alberta eh? Posts: 9,934 Blog Entries: 6	Can't really say on the bias ply Swamper but the Swamper Radial measures in at 36" and the MT/R mesures 36.5" I'm happy with the on road performance of the Swamper Radial but the MT/R is much quieter and probably has a longer tread life. Pricewise I think they are very close. __________________ Paul Gagnon Sherwood Park, Alberta eh? "No Brain, No Pain"

02-17-2003, 11:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Paul Gagnon Poseur SUV Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 610 Location: Sherwood Park, Alberta eh? Posts: 9,934 Blog Entries: 6	Yeah I'm on a 7" wheel and the MT/Rs that were measured are on an 8" wheel. When I measured mine it was off the truck with less than 10psi in the tire and the tire was brand new. __________________ Paul Gagnon Sherwood Park, Alberta eh? "No Brain, No Pain"

02-18-2003, 05:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
wngrog Moderating Midget Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1154 Location: Canton, MS Posts: 22,057 Blog Entries: 4	A bias ply Swamper 36 and a MTR 37 are close to the same height, much closer than the 35" MTR. If you had 36 x 12.50 radial swampers the 35" would be closer... __________________ Nolen Grogan 1997 FZJ-80 Land Cruiser, 37's 2010 RZR-4 www.cottonlandcruisers.com www.rockmidgetphotography.com USAF Veteran 1988-1998 GOD Bless America

02-17-2003, 10:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rerard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5869 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,490	Yah I was thinking about maybe a radial 36.. oh well not like I have the money anyway, but who knows.. maybe uncle Sam will be nice this year.

02-17-2003, 11:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rerard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5869 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,490	Your on a 7" wheel though arent you Paul? Mine measure about 34.5" but thats on a 10".

02-18-2003, 07:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
kjp98TJ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15992 Location: S. Maine Posts: 319	i've seen several pics with tapes that show the 35's at usually less than 34" with 8" rims on the vehicles. lotsa cake for a 33" tire. __________________ i can go everywhere everyone else does -- the new england mantra

02-18-2003, 05:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
Amanda G Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5663 Location: NORCAL Posts: 7,165	Kjell, when I was looking at tires to buy I thought the exact same thing, and in the end I'm glad I bought the 37's.. (even tho they still aren't mounted LOL). If I had bought the 35s, I would have been kicking my self in the ass for not gettin the 37s. Now I just gotta give her more lift to fit them!! LOL BTW, wanna help?? Get the 37s dude, you can't be having smaller tires than a GIRL! __________________ TWSS

02-18-2003, 09:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
darkfader Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11759 Location: sonoma, chico Posts: 271	i got the same set up bias 36's and they ride like shit i need some 37 mtrs now. My friend has 37 mtrs and they are 36" on a 10" rim on a jeep __________________ 85 toy, 5.29ers, detroited, profields, high steer, 37mtrs, soon to have 3-link with fox shox. NEED T-CASE GEAR 4.7 OR 5.0

02-18-2003, 09:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
Monty'01 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9910 Location: Woodland. Ca. Posts: 69	Seems the consensus agrees with me Kjell. Go with the 37's Than I'll get 35's and still have smaller tires than Countrygirl.

02-19-2003, 11:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
FearMe Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1565 Location: State of confusion. Posts: 2,367	I picked up 4 brand new 35X12.5X15 MTR's last night. Got curious so I measured one. Sitting on the floor with no wheel....the bead's sit 8" apart, the width is no way near 12.5, closer to 10 something and that's stretching it and the height on them was 34 3/4. __________________ I've outlived my dick.

02-20-2003, 11:45 AM	#21 (permalink)
darkfader Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11759 Location: sonoma, chico Posts: 271	Where can you get 37 mtr's for the cheapest tire rack $169 or people say Wal Mart or Sam's club. __________________ 85 toy, 5.29ers, detroited, profields, high steer, 37mtrs, soon to have 3-link with fox shox. NEED T-CASE GEAR 4.7 OR 5.0

02-20-2003, 02:54 PM	#23 (permalink)
Dannyboy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13634 Location: wisco Posts: 36	I bought 35X12.50 MTRs a little over a year ago for $148 each with road hazard and install. One day I walked into my Goodyear dealer and told him that I wasn't buying tires that day, but would when they were on a great sale. He said that like a month and a half later they would run a "Spike Sale" where they sell tires for a couple days at incredible prices. Well I haven't seen anyone get one cheaper, up until I needed a spare and discount tire happened to have a used (still had all tread and even paint) on the tread that they sold me for $69. Not a bad place to call and see if they have anything. __________________ long travel 4x4 explorer 2005 F250 powerstroke crew on 37s

02-20-2003, 08:54 PM	#24 (permalink)
axle59 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11291 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 333	4 wheel parts is usually pretty close on prices, plus they ALWAYS have free shipping. And on top of all that you can get their road hazard warranty on any tire they sell. Wal Mart, Discount, and the rest of em wont give a warranty on MT's.

02-20-2003, 10:35 PM	#25 (permalink)
sleepertoy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14335 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 512	buy local I'm a big proponent of buying local. If 4-wheel parts is all you got, then so be it. Myself, I don't care for their restocking fees and such. I was forcibly upgraded to an MSD igntion setup after buying some WARN lights. I didn't like the WARNs and ended up with IPFs instead but they wanted to charge me a restocking fee (lights were unopened). So, I only buy there now when I have no other choice. I probably would charge a restocking fee for open items myself but for unopened it seems a little unreasonable. To avoid loosing the money I ended up buying an MSD setup since they didn't have a damn thing otherwise I was interested in. Oh yeah, I have 35" MT/Rs and they are sweet meats. I would run 37s but I'm not quite ready to chop out anymore sheet metal. Had to cut both my bumper and fender with 35s plus get creative with a hammer on the inside of the wheel well. But, they no longer rub when fully stuffed.

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