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Old 03-03-2003, 11:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I need my first welder

I am looking intop buying a welder. I don't know anything about them really. Can someone just telll me th ebasics of them. Like all th edifferent names and which is the best. I want to be able to weld pipe, frame, and anything else on my toyota in my sig. What is a good first welder for around 350?
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Old 03-03-2003, 11:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 03-04-2003, 02:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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For $350, you can pick up the Craftsman 110v 90A MIG, for less on eBay. It works very well, it's a Century knock-off, and it'll do everything you need it for on a base level rig.

You have hours, and hours, and hours of reading and research to do on this website alone. That will lead you to other research on other sites.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/searc...by=&sortorder=

That should get ya started. 696 pages.

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Old 03-04-2003, 02:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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And BTW I'm not being mean. Most of the stuff has been discussed here recently. If you go back a little bit, find some specific questions, people will gladly help you here and on other forums.

But your question is way general. You need to research to find out what to ask in the first place.

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First.. I would save the $$ for a larger welder. try to get closer to $700 or so.

You can get a Millermatic 175 for roughly that, probably less used if you look hard enough.. You would be much happier with that than the small units IMO.

I have been really happy with My Miller.. while it's the 210 (and costs nearly 4x what you want to spend. I have heard nothing but good things about the 175.

90A just isn't enough IMO.
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Old 03-04-2003, 10:56 AM   #6 (permalink)
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If you can't go up to a 220 machine, go with the Hobart 135. I am happy with mine and I only paid $399 shipped.
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Old 03-04-2003, 04:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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what is y'alls opinion on say a premier power welder thats in dash/underhood for your main welder? with the right stuff, could it be good enough to go as a main welder so I wont have to get two?
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Theres a ton of info on this topic. search

Also welders are often sold in the misc for sale section
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get the craftsman 110v that 90 amps is its duty cycle same as ahobart 135or amiller 135 there only like 299 no shipping thers asears everywhere. Sears rates themat3/16 single pass same as miller.Will it be enough tough to say prep the metal metal real good ,beveling pre heat run flux or straight c02 better penetration,ithink youll be fine.Randy85toy ,locker, gears, histeer, jackball.
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Old 03-04-2003, 08:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
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my wife bought me a century 150 its a 110 unit which is nice since 220 is no go in my garage also it weights 70lbs so it is mobile to take where ever theres power(freinds house) what i like is the adjustment is infinite unlike some welders some units have 2 knobs labeled 1-5 so your heat is 1-5 and wire speed is 1-5 so you only can run 25 combonations of speed/heat which makes it diffuclt to weld. i am no expert so what i do is weld not critical parts and weld the scrap into art work thats the only way to get good at it.
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Old 03-04-2003, 09:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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go to home depot,, buy a lincoln 100 pak, easy to use welds up to 1/4 0r so, i have a 225miller but always seem to use the lincoln
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go to home depot,, buy a lincoln 100 pak, easy to use welds up to 1/4 0r so, i have a 225miller but always seem to use the lincoln
ive got the same one, the lincoln
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What's the difference between the weld pak 100hd and 3200hd, is it just that the 3200 is already set up for gas shielding instead of flux core?

Oh ya, another question (pretty dumb but hey it's the newbie forum), where could I go to pick up scrap pieces of metal to practice?
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get the craftsman 110v that 90 amps is its duty cycle same as ahobart 135or amiller 135 there only like 299 no shipping thers asears everywhere. Sears rates themat3/16 single pass same as miller.Will it be enough tough to say prep the metal metal real good ,beveling pre heat run flux or straight c02 better penetration,ithink youll be fine.Randy85toy ,locker, gears, histeer, jackball.
I had this one and stepped up to the Hobart 175. It's like night and day! The Hobart feeds better, burns hotter and is far less fatiguing. I got mine for $540.00 to the door. IMO, buying the small box to begin with is a waste of money. Eventually almost everyone ends up stepping up the bigger ones.
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What's the difference between the weld pak 100hd and 3200hd, is it just that the 3200 is already set up for gas shielding instead of flux core?

Oh ya, another question (pretty dumb but hey it's the newbie forum), where could I go to pick up scrap pieces of metal to practice?
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there are several steel mills in san antonio, check with them
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of course, the more u spend, the more u get, but i like the 110 plug in, very convient, the hobart is a good upgrade,may even buy one sometime, but the weld pak 100 works well for me now.and if i need some hd stuff i use my miller 225 amp
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What's the difference between the weld pak 100hd and 3200hd, is it just that the 3200 is already set up for gas shielding instead of flux core?

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Without looking at them I would say that is the only difference...personally I would say dont waste you time or money on the gas setup with the 110V...the WP100 is a decent machine for a 110 unit...if you want to do it right then I would get a 175A+ machine...you will regret it later when you need more juice if you dont
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The best bang for 300 bucks has got to be a stick welder. I used my 220v Lincoln AC stick for a couple of years and it works great once you get used to it. I would drop the $300 for a good stick machine and use it for a while, and if later on you decide that you need a mig, you will have had a chance to save up some cash for a good one (that's what I did). Any mig machine in your price range would just be crap if you're trying to use it to weld frames or tubing on your rig.
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Try finding a used one. I picked up a Miller 250 Powermig with tanks, regulators and a full 30 lb roll of wire for the price as a Miller 175 empty. It works perfect, and its nice to be able to burn a fat weld in the thick stuff with one pass.
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I've got the harbor frieght 90 amp 110v wire feed welder, has gas connection but don't have gas.

I HATE IT!

I cannot get the penetration that I want. If I weld a "T" type joint you cannot get it to burn into 1/8" steel on the flat side.
Does alright on butt welds.

If you don't have alot of money, get a decent stick welder instead of a cheap wire feed welder.
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