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hjeepxj · 03-05-2003, 09:10 PM

Has anyone (while waiting for my 44

) welded there dana 30 and got a manual disconnect, so it doesnt effect on road driving? does it stand up to this? would it be a good mod for a streeter?

And you can assume that ill lock the rear too

I posted in the n00b forum because dana turdie talk aint allowed with the big boys

(The search resulted in nothing, unless im a moron)

foley · 03-05-2003, 09:46 PM

I considered doing this with my XJ and everyone told me not to, that I would break the disconnect. I ended up with a lockrite and TJ shafts, and haven't broken yet.
(but an RC 44 is in the works anyway)

hjeepxj · 03-05-2003, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by foley
I considered doing this with my XJ and everyone told me not to, that I would break the disconnect. I ended up with a lockrite and TJ shafts, and haven't broken yet.
(but an RC 44 is in the works anyway)

true, true, but I thought the cable disco made it stronger?

and Id be sure to get x297 shafts (if they even came in the disco configuration)

foley · 03-06-2003, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hjeepxj

true, true, but I thought the cable disco made it stronger?

and Id be sure to get x297 shafts (if they even came in the disco configuration)

The weak link is supposedly the inner shaft itself... but I didn't really look at it. I'll glance at them this weekend and compare, I think I still have them floating around the shop.

NastyNate · 03-06-2003, 04:49 AM

I installed one in my MJ at the same time as a lockright. I always had a hell of a time getting it to engage. The splines never wanted to match up for some reason. Then I broke an axle and it took out the lockright and the cable fork at the same time. Swapped in a later model 30 with the one piece 297 shafts and never had any more trouble.

XJ Sean · 03-06-2003, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hjeepxj

x297 shafts (if they even came in the disco configuration)

95 YJ, I'm pretty sure that's the only year for disco 297x shafts

xjweeble · 03-06-2003, 08:13 AM

I used to have mine welded with 33's. It never broke but i allways had that uneasy feelin in my gut.

hjeepxj · 03-06-2003, 09:52 AM

thanks for the info guys! keep it comin'

hjeepxj · 03-13-2003, 12:09 AM

btt, any other opinions?

LUVMYTJ · 03-13-2003, 01:01 PM

I would say to definately go to a later model shaft and get rid of the 2 piece... Throw a lockright in there and be done with it.. You most likely wont even notice the lockright on the street. The only time it will be noticeable is when torque is supplied via 4WD..

Hope this helps

hjeepxj · 03-13-2003, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LUVMYTJ
I would say to definately go to a later model shaft and get rid of the 2 piece... Throw a lockright in there and be done with it.. You most likely wont even notice the lockright on the street. The only time it will be noticeable is when torque is supplied via 4WD..

Hope this helps

sure does! thanks! now i just need to save my pennies for a lockrite...

uglyscout · 03-13-2003, 04:27 PM

Not to get this going in the worng direction but - by the time you get new shafts and a lockright for your 30, wouldn't you be pretty close to getting a 44 and just running around open for a while?

I'd just hate to toss money at a 30 and then throw it in the trash in a short while when a 44 comes along.

hjeepxj · 03-13-2003, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uglyscout
Not to get this going in the worng direction but - by the time you get new shafts and a lockright for your 30, wouldn't you be pretty close to getting a 44 and just running around open for a while?

I'd just hate to toss money at a 30 and then throw it in the trash in a short while when a 44 comes along.

true, true...

but I bet I can sell it to some sucker on JU

Oatmeal · 03-16-2003, 05:22 PM

I wouldn't weld it cause you could forget about steering it then!

Honestly though, I run a locker in my front D44 and I love the traction but sometimes I just hate it! Icy roads are a white knuckler and going down hill with all the weight on the front end gives my P/S pump a real workout! If you still want to lock it up at least get a Lock Rite, if money is an issue, if it isn't go for the gusto ARB, OX Locker or maybe the new Detroit Electrac!

antelopeXJ · 03-16-2003, 11:20 PM

if you stuff a lockright into a non disco front axle you will know its ther in 2wd,

you make alot of sharp turns or u turns? the fawkin lockright will trip out and ratchet and pop like a mofo (had 1 in my 85 xj)
but if you kept your shitty vacuum disconnect front and not change to a solid passenger side shaft, you will not feel the locker in 2wd.

if you are going to go with non disco shafts, i would get a powertrax no-slip, they are hardly noticeable, all you hear is a muffled "click" in turns and thats it!

all thats stopping me from upgrading to a dana 44 is that the bracket kit costs 400 fricken dollars!! they must smoke alot of crack at rubicon express lol, they are really cool guys there couple buddies work there. but fawk take out a loan and get a front 44, hell we are all rich arent we?

03-05-2003, 09:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
hjeepxj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14224 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 305	Dana Turdie Modification Has anyone (while waiting for my 44 ) welded there dana 30 and got a manual disconnect, so it doesnt effect on road driving? does it stand up to this? would it be a good mod for a streeter? And you can assume that ill lock the rear too I posted in the n00b forum because dana turdie talk aint allowed with the big boys (The search resulted in nothing, unless im a moron) __________________ [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by B.A.R.K [/i] [B]I thought these guys got sent to JU, this is TOO newbie for the NEWBIE FORUM:shaking: [/B][/QUOTE] Last edited by hjeepxj; 03-05-2003 at 09:13 PM.

03-06-2003, 04:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
NastyNate Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13276 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 619	I installed one in my MJ at the same time as a lockright. I always had a hell of a time getting it to engage. The splines never wanted to match up for some reason. Then I broke an axle and it took out the lockright and the cable fork at the same time. Swapped in a later model 30 with the one piece 297 shafts and never had any more trouble. __________________ Those who give up a little freedom for a little security, WILL SOON LOSE BOTH AND DESERVE NEITHER!

03-06-2003, 08:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
xjweeble Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11204 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 205	I used to have mine welded with 33's. It never broke but i allways had that uneasy feelin in my gut. __________________ 99 XJ Rock wagon 9/404's, 39.5 rockers, ori's.

03-06-2003, 09:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
hjeepxj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14224 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 305	thanks for the info guys! keep it comin' __________________ [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by B.A.R.K [/i] [B]I thought these guys got sent to JU, this is TOO newbie for the NEWBIE FORUM:shaking: [/B][/QUOTE]

03-13-2003, 12:09 AM	#9 (permalink)
hjeepxj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14224 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 305	btt, any other opinions? __________________ [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by B.A.R.K [/i] [B]I thought these guys got sent to JU, this is TOO newbie for the NEWBIE FORUM:shaking: [/B][/QUOTE]

03-13-2003, 01:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
LUVMYTJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14036 Location: louisiana Posts: 1,553	I would say to definately go to a later model shaft and get rid of the 2 piece... Throw a lockright in there and be done with it.. You most likely wont even notice the lockright on the street. The only time it will be noticeable is when torque is supplied via 4WD.. Hope this helps

03-13-2003, 04:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
uglyscout Dana 44 Polisher Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13731 Location: Newberg, OR Posts: 3,301	Not to get this going in the worng direction but - by the time you get new shafts and a lockright for your 30, wouldn't you be pretty close to getting a 44 and just running around open for a while? I'd just hate to toss money at a 30 and then throw it in the trash in a short while when a 44 comes along. __________________ Buy my stuff!!! High Pinion Dana 44 for an Early Bronco Almost brand new 39.5x13.5x15 IROKS

03-16-2003, 05:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
Oatmeal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14600 Location: Covina,Ca. Posts: 1,010	I wouldn't weld it cause you could forget about steering it then! Honestly though, I run a locker in my front D44 and I love the traction but sometimes I just hate it! Icy roads are a white knuckler and going down hill with all the weight on the front end gives my P/S pump a real workout! If you still want to lock it up at least get a Lock Rite, if money is an issue, if it isn't go for the gusto ARB, OX Locker or maybe the new Detroit Electrac!

03-16-2003, 11:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
antelopeXJ Wheeler Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17768 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 109	lockright if you stuff a lockright into a non disco front axle you will know its ther in 2wd, you make alot of sharp turns or u turns? the fawkin lockright will trip out and ratchet and pop like a mofo (had 1 in my 85 xj) but if you kept your shitty vacuum disconnect front and not change to a solid passenger side shaft, you will not feel the locker in 2wd. if you are going to go with non disco shafts, i would get a powertrax no-slip, they are hardly noticeable, all you hear is a muffled "click" in turns and thats it! all thats stopping me from upgrading to a dana 44 is that the bracket kit costs 400 fricken dollars!! they must smoke alot of crack at rubicon express lol, they are really cool guys there couple buddies work there. but fawk take out a loan and get a front 44, hell we are all rich arent we?

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