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AzoBlue · 03-30-2003, 11:09 AM

im looking for a HP60 for my TJ. im searched here, yahoo, google and various other sites. i cant seem too find what im looking for, what vehicles does it come out of? is it common? i hooked up with a guy that does axle work for dragsters and hes gonna really hook me up. i just needa find a housing. he said he could narrow it, lock and gear it for $900.

i dont need a flame suit, ive seen your guys ownage skills and its quit lamer.

Kitty Cat · 03-30-2003, 11:27 AM

There is a special section you us newbies to ask these questions.

AzoBlue · 03-30-2003, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by Kitty Cat
There is a special section you us newbies to ask these questions.

i know this, there was more traffic here and i wanna find an axle asap. its is also Jeep specific

Kitty Cat · 03-30-2003, 12:09 PM

called someone and he told me that it came out of a Ford 70 and up (i think that what he said). Is it the rear you looking for?

AzoBlue · 03-30-2003, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Kitty Cat
called someone and he told me that it came out of a Ford 70 and up (i think that what he said). Is it the rear you looking for?

a HP D60 is what im looking for..

JS-Economos · 03-30-2003, 12:21 PM

I understand your confusion, a SEARCH!!!!! wouldn't yeild you very many results; not many guys believe in HP60s around here.

The prime HP60 is found out of a '78-'79 Ford F-350. Some newer models also run HP60s, but i'm not sure of the years. They're hard to find and damn expensive.

AzoBlue · 03-30-2003, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by JS-Economos
I understand your confusion, a SEARCH!!!!! wouldn't yeild you very many results; not many guys believe in HP60s around here.

The prime HP60 is found out of a '78-'79 Ford F-350. Some newer models also run HP60s, but i'm not sure of the years. They're hard to find and damn expensive.

thanks alot, ive pretty much decided on a HP both front and rear. thanks again

Todd W · 03-30-2003, 05:12 PM

Do you think your really ready for 60s?

Jason R · 03-30-2003, 06:48 PM

You want a kingpin axle, not ball joint. Might want to research the subject a little before you dive into it.

You also have to figure lug patterns, brakes, if you want a HP rear that's alot of work, and a whole lot of other crap. the search button is your friend.

AzoBlue · 03-30-2003, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Jason R
You want a kingpin axle, not ball joint. Might want to research the subject a little before you dive into it.

You also have to figure lug patterns, brakes, if you want a HP rear that's alot of work, and a whole lot of other crap. the search button is your friend.

is a HP alot more effective other then driveline angles and clearance? would a standard 60 work ok?

Todd W · 03-30-2003, 08:00 PM

The only reason you want a HP60 in the rear is driveline angles...

The front.. stronger (reverse cut gears), and nicer driverline angles..

Keith Strong · 03-30-2003, 08:44 PM

Lemme get this straight. You THINK you know what you need, but really arent sure? However, you KNOW its a Newbie question, and choose to post it in Jeep Talk anyways. And now that its been moved to Newbie section wher eit belonged int he first place....you want our help? As 94YJ said.....do you really think you are ready for a 60

You need 78 and newer F350 Ford D60 front. Now go get one and dont come back

uglyscout · 03-31-2003, 06:16 AM

Good luck finding a HP60

You'll need to cough up some serious cash to get your hand on one - figure around $1200+ per axle. If you really must have one - shop here in the classifieds and on ebay.

BUT - seriusoly look at what it's gonna take to build one beofre you start looking for one. Do about a weeks worth of research before you start tossing cash around.

AzoBlue · 03-31-2003, 07:51 AM

ok so ill go with a standard pinion and do some more research.

JS-Economos · 03-31-2003, 12:06 PM

Here's my $2 bucks worth. Junkyard Ford HP44 and a standard cut D60 rear. VERY easy to find and a shit load cheaper. And those will stand up to 37" tire punishment if ya caress it.

AzoBlue · 03-31-2003, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by JS-Economos
Here's my $2 bucks worth. Junkyard Ford HP44 and a standard cut D60 rear. VERY easy to find and a shit load cheaper. And those will stand up to 37" tire punishment if ya caress it.

any special yr/model i needa find the 60 out of?

JS-Economos · 03-31-2003, 12:43 PM

You really need to figure out what bolt pattern you want, what width you want your axles, what size tires you want, what type of suspension you want, etc. There's a shit load of factors that can determine what axles are swappable with the least bit of headaches. All these Ford axles are fullwidth. The HP44s are 65.5" or 67" wide. They're found in mid to late '70s F-100s, 150s, 250s. The 250s run the wider D44s with 8 lug hubs and huge dual piston calipers and leaf springs; these are 3/4 ton versions. The smaller 1/2 tonners are 5x5.5 lug and run coils w/ radius arms.

Again, you need to research, read, and draw up a plan from that. I've been planning and re-planning for a very long time now. I've got a good plan now and I'm just stalling for the funds.

HTH.

03-30-2003, 11:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
AzoBlue Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18362 Posts: 8	pardon the n00b Q but... im looking for a HP60 for my TJ. im searched here, yahoo, google and various other sites. i cant seem too find what im looking for, what vehicles does it come out of? is it common? i hooked up with a guy that does axle work for dragsters and hes gonna really hook me up. i just needa find a housing. he said he could narrow it, lock and gear it for $900. i dont need a flame suit, ive seen your guys ownage skills and its quit lamer.

03-30-2003, 11:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
Kitty Cat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14121 Location: the best zip code in TN Posts: 275	There is a special section you us newbies to ask these questions. __________________ ....

03-30-2003, 12:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kitty Cat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14121 Location: the best zip code in TN Posts: 275	called someone and he told me that it came out of a Ford 70 and up (i think that what he said). Is it the rear you looking for? __________________ ....

03-30-2003, 12:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
JS-Economos Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11874 Location: North Crawlina? Posts: 1,355	I understand your confusion, a SEARCH!!!!! wouldn't yeild you very many results; not many guys believe in HP60s around here. The prime HP60 is found out of a '78-'79 Ford F-350. Some newer models also run HP60s, but i'm not sure of the years. They're hard to find and damn expensive. __________________ Toyotas are cool.

03-30-2003, 05:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
Todd W I make websites! Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12429 Location: Rubicon Trail - CA Posts: 10,332 Blog Entries: 9	Do you think your really ready for 60s? __________________ My 4x4 Blog Rockwell axles too!

03-30-2003, 06:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jason R Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11598 Location: USA Posts: 6,063	You want a kingpin axle, not ball joint. Might want to research the subject a little before you dive into it. You also have to figure lug patterns, brakes, if you want a HP rear that's alot of work, and a whole lot of other crap. the search button is your friend. __________________ This space for rent.

03-30-2003, 08:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
Todd W I make websites! Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12429 Location: Rubicon Trail - CA Posts: 10,332 Blog Entries: 9	The only reason you want a HP60 in the rear is driveline angles... The front.. stronger (reverse cut gears), and nicer driverline angles.. __________________ My 4x4 Blog Rockwell axles too!

03-30-2003, 08:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
Keith Strong Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 477 Location: The Peeplz Republik Posts: 12,257	Lemme get this straight. You THINK you know what you need, but really arent sure? However, you KNOW its a Newbie question, and choose to post it in Jeep Talk anyways. And now that its been moved to Newbie section wher eit belonged int he first place....you want our help? As 94YJ said.....do you really think you are ready for a 60 You need 78 and newer F350 Ford D60 front. Now go get one and dont come back __________________ [CENTER][SIZE="5"][URL="http://www.strong-arms.com"]Strong Arms "Survival Slings" For Sale PM me for a PBB only price[/URL] [/SIZE][/CENTER]

03-31-2003, 06:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
uglyscout Dana 44 Polisher Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13731 Location: Newberg, OR Posts: 3,289	Good luck finding a HP60 You'll need to cough up some serious cash to get your hand on one - figure around $1200+ per axle. If you really must have one - shop here in the classifieds and on ebay. BUT - seriusoly look at what it's gonna take to build one beofre you start looking for one. Do about a weeks worth of research before you start tossing cash around. __________________ 86 4Runner, turbo, dual cases, big tires, no up travel. http://cutandturn.com - Axle cut and turn pages http://d44tech.com - Dana 44 Tech Pages

03-31-2003, 07:51 AM	#14 (permalink)
AzoBlue Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18362 Posts: 8	ok so ill go with a standard pinion and do some more research. __________________ TJ locked on 37s, soon to be on 60s

03-31-2003, 12:06 PM	#15 (permalink)
JS-Economos Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11874 Location: North Crawlina? Posts: 1,355	Here's my $2 bucks worth. Junkyard Ford HP44 and a standard cut D60 rear. VERY easy to find and a shit load cheaper. And those will stand up to 37" tire punishment if ya caress it. __________________ Toyotas are cool.

03-31-2003, 12:43 PM	#17 (permalink)
JS-Economos Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11874 Location: North Crawlina? Posts: 1,355	You really need to figure out what bolt pattern you want, what width you want your axles, what size tires you want, what type of suspension you want, etc. There's a shit load of factors that can determine what axles are swappable with the least bit of headaches. All these Ford axles are fullwidth. The HP44s are 65.5" or 67" wide. They're found in mid to late '70s F-100s, 150s, 250s. The 250s run the wider D44s with 8 lug hubs and huge dual piston calipers and leaf springs; these are 3/4 ton versions. The smaller 1/2 tonners are 5x5.5 lug and run coils w/ radius arms. Again, you need to research, read, and draw up a plan from that. I've been planning and re-planning for a very long time now. I've got a good plan now and I'm just stalling for the funds. HTH. __________________ Toyotas are cool.

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