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4x4chevette · 04-15-2003, 08:21 PM

My friend and I, now known as team half fast, bought a 82 jeep wagoneer today, for $100, the body is in terrible shape but the 360 runs good and It has power everything. I am also told this has d 44's is this correct? We are planning to built it up, we have already cut the top off from behidn the drivers seat back, and will be buildign a cage on it soon. If any of you care to see it i'll post pics when I get some.. Just let me know

Mo · 04-15-2003, 08:25 PM

44s front and rear, unless the rear is an AMC 20, but in a waggy, the 20 is a good axle

4x4chevette · 04-15-2003, 08:27 PM

Is there anywhere ti says what the axles are..........door jam?

Mo · 04-15-2003, 08:31 PM

just look at the rear axle.

If the cover looks like half a basketball, it's an AMC 20. Otherwise you can pretty much assume it's a 44

4x4chevette · 04-15-2003, 08:34 PM

ok I'll check tomorrow........ thanks

SLOwag · 04-15-2003, 09:21 PM

If its an 82 you are going to have a Model 20 in the rear. You are also going to have a NP229 transfer case which is a decent case for mild offroad and street but you aren't going to do any serious wheelin' with it.. if you want to learn about Wags you need to head over to www.ifsja.org. More info there then you will ever need... lots of chop top wags and cheros over there..

shakes · 04-15-2003, 09:22 PM

Unless it's an PO change, the rear end will be an AMC HD 20 with one piece axles, it's not a bad axle, very comparable to a 44.

BostonWrangler · 04-16-2003, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SLOwag
You are also going to have a NP229 transfer case

Might be a NP208 or NP228.

208 is part-time: 2HI, N, 4HI, 4LO and the front D44 will have manual hubs.

228 is a full-time case with no LOCK (part-time) mode: 4 HI N 4LO although it may have a 2 HI also. I'm not positive.

JohnnyJ · 04-16-2003, 07:16 AM

228 was in 86 only. Stock choices for 82 would have been 208, 229, and 219.

cmk · 04-16-2003, 07:35 AM

... can't recognize a d44?!

cmk

blacklabjeep · 04-16-2003, 08:35 AM

Damn, Damn, Damn

I didn't care about your adventures in the chevette, or your hitting a tree w/ your nissan, but now you have a jeep. Just try to make sure nobody recognizes its a jeep b/c I know you'll be doing something stupid in it.

And oh yeah, M20 in the rear, 44 up front. You should be able to put Warn lock outs on the front. The '83 Waggies have a vacumm actuated D44, I don't thinkit can be it be converted, so you may want to look at the pumpkin to see if it has a solenoid since AMC was know to mix and match alot of parts.

4x4chevette · 04-16-2003, 07:20 PM

The d 44 has lockout son it, and the t-case front out put shafts is on drivers saide, so its a 208 right? is also 6 lug. I have one more question I just purchased a set of axles from a 78 or 79 wagonner, passanger side diff. lockouts, 5 lug... What would these axles be? It aslo had a 360 in it. Oh and, what would the gear ration in these be?

BTW sorry my questions are kinda dumb, but I dont know much about the axles, I just know whats good and not, cant tell the differance yet. I had never owned a 4x4 until august of last year, so I'm still learning.

Mo · 04-16-2003, 07:39 PM

the axles you bought are 44s

ratio? who knows.. crack them open and see.

4x4chevette · 04-16-2003, 08:07 PM

I was hoping they were 44's. What are 44's worth? I watched oen sell on ebay for $225. I gave the guy my 79 2wd ford with bad engine that I wanted $400 for, and he gave me these axles,springs,steeringbox, and $150.. good deal?

04-15-2003, 08:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
4x4chevette Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17535 Posts: 109	Team Half Fast's new jeep My friend and I, now known as team half fast, bought a 82 jeep wagoneer today, for $100, the body is in terrible shape but the 360 runs good and It has power everything. I am also told this has d 44's is this correct? We are planning to built it up, we have already cut the top off from behidn the drivers seat back, and will be buildign a cage on it soon. If any of you care to see it i'll post pics when I get some.. Just let me know __________________ Need to find a new rig, preferably an MJ, XJ or YJ [URL=http://www.offroadohio.com]OffRoad Ohio[/URL] Last edited by 4x4chevette; 04-15-2003 at 08:26 PM.

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04-15-2003, 08:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
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SLOwag Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 14901 Location: San Luis Obispo/Modesto/Oakdale, CA Posts: 161	If its an 82 you are going to have a Model 20 in the rear. You are also going to have a NP229 transfer case which is a decent case for mild offroad and street but you aren't going to do any serious wheelin' with it.. if you want to learn about Wags you need to head over to www.ifsja.org. More info there then you will ever need... lots of chop top wags and cheros over there.. __________________ [URL=http://www.dekonia.com]'83 Wag,[/URL] SOA, 360 [URL=http://www.fsjnetwork.com]Full Size Jeep Network... More Jeep, Less Filling[/URL] [URL=http://www.freeiPods.com/default.aspx?referer=8979853]Get your free iPods or iTunes gift certificate here![/URL]

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JohnnyJ Low Range Drifter Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 7903 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 2,730	228 was in 86 only. Stock choices for 82 would have been 208, 229, and 219. __________________ DEAK Racing #715 TREC B / Ultra 4 Mod Class Rig Thanks to Drivetrain Specialists and PAC Racing Springs for your support

04-15-2003, 08:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mo Everyday is Tuesday. Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 47 Location: Lizzy, CO Posts: 15,649	44s front and rear, unless the rear is an AMC 20, but in a waggy, the 20 is a good axle

04-15-2003, 08:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mo Everyday is Tuesday. Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 47 Location: Lizzy, CO Posts: 15,649	just look at the rear axle. If the cover looks like half a basketball, it's an AMC 20. Otherwise you can pretty much assume it's a 44

04-15-2003, 09:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
shakes Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16195 Location: South MS Posts: 13	Unless it's an PO change, the rear end will be an AMC HD 20 with one piece axles, it's not a bad axle, very comparable to a 44.

04-16-2003, 07:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
cmk Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 987 Posts: 1,869	... can't recognize a d44?! cmk

04-16-2003, 08:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
blacklabjeep Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 17152 Location: texas Posts: 42	Damn, Damn, Damn I didn't care about your adventures in the chevette, or your hitting a tree w/ your nissan, but now you have a jeep. Just try to make sure nobody recognizes its a jeep b/c I know you'll be doing something stupid in it. And oh yeah, M20 in the rear, 44 up front. You should be able to put Warn lock outs on the front. The '83 Waggies have a vacumm actuated D44, I don't thinkit can be it be converted, so you may want to look at the pumpkin to see if it has a solenoid since AMC was know to mix and match alot of parts.

04-16-2003, 07:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
4x4chevette Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17535 Posts: 109	The d 44 has lockout son it, and the t-case front out put shafts is on drivers saide, so its a 208 right? is also 6 lug. I have one more question I just purchased a set of axles from a 78 or 79 wagonner, passanger side diff. lockouts, 5 lug... What would these axles be? It aslo had a 360 in it. Oh and, what would the gear ration in these be? BTW sorry my questions are kinda dumb, but I dont know much about the axles, I just know whats good and not, cant tell the differance yet. I had never owned a 4x4 until august of last year, so I'm still learning. __________________ Need to find a new rig, preferably an MJ, XJ or YJ [URL=http://www.offroadohio.com]OffRoad Ohio[/URL] Last edited by 4x4chevette; 04-16-2003 at 07:28 PM.

04-16-2003, 07:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mo Everyday is Tuesday. Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 47 Location: Lizzy, CO Posts: 15,649	the axles you bought are 44s ratio? who knows.. crack them open and see.

04-16-2003, 08:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
4x4chevette Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17535 Posts: 109	I was hoping they were 44's. What are 44's worth? I watched oen sell on ebay for $225. I gave the guy my 79 2wd ford with bad engine that I wanted $400 for, and he gave me these axles,springs,steeringbox, and $150.. good deal? __________________ Need to find a new rig, preferably an MJ, XJ or YJ [URL=http://www.offroadohio.com]OffRoad Ohio[/URL] Last edited by 4x4chevette; 04-16-2003 at 08:08 PM.

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