What happened to locking hubs? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

281 Quad Cam · 05-03-2003, 10:43 PM

(1979 CJ5 258/T150/D20 D30/M20)

were locking hubs standard on all Jeep CJ's back in the day? Anyway i was under the impression they were... but my CJ-5 is pulling this shit up front...

I didn't care for a while, but now i want to weld my 30, and i need to be able to unlock my hubs... i need to ask whats going on! Assuming its a stock 30, how many splines is it - ill need to know when looking for a warn locking hub. But what do i need for the thing? Just the locking hubs for 80 bucks, or warn's whole "locking hub kit" for a couple hundred more... i figure that depends in whether mine is setup for it, any way to tell from that picture? its got the 6 bolt hub business happening.

I know this will probly result in me taking it apart and looking for myself, but i figured i would ask...

MikeW · 05-04-2003, 05:32 AM

I remember reading a past issue of Four Wheeler on a early CJ, something like the first or second generation. One pic showed a box with the manual hubs that could be installed.

kwrangln · 05-04-2003, 06:55 AM

What you have are drive flanges. Send them to me! When you call whoever for hubs just tell them you need 6 bolt external hubs for a Cj. Send me the drive flanges! The same hubs will also fit scouts and are pretty common. Did I mention that I have been looking for some drive flanges? You dont need a hub "kit" all you have to do is unbolt the drive flanges (send them to me) and bolt on the new hubs. No conversion necessary.

KS Toy · 05-04-2003, 07:33 AM

I do not have the answer to your question but you might want to re-think the welding of that 30...................

281 Quad Cam · 05-04-2003, 10:22 AM

whats to re-think? i only run 35's with an unhealthy 258.
not worth paying for a locker or spool upfront for a D30, and i cant replace it till i break it!

281 Quad Cam · 05-04-2003, 10:33 AM

btw, kwranglin... im trying to find hubs in my price range, if i can get a good deal ill send you them... but as of now i cant seem to get a set under 100 bucks, i might try to sell the flanges to offset the cost if i cant get them atleast under 100!

My biggest consideration is that after welding the 30, i have no idea how long it will last..........

Eventually i will end up destroying it! and the investment in sparkling new warn hubs will see pretty dumb, as im sure they wont fit on a 44 or whatever goes in next. so id like to find a set of used hubs on ebay or something. if you have hubs now that would help me, ill send you the flanges plus $$$ to even it out.

kwrangln · 05-04-2003, 01:42 PM

Dont have but one spare layin around or I'd trade ya strait across. Heres an Idea tho. I know cj knuckles will bolt to a 44 housing (got em on my early bronco 44 housing now) so it should work the other way. Get a set of 44 knuckles and outers, run the 44 internal spline hubs, then when you upgrade to the 44 housing you already have the outers built. Might have to do some checking on compatability, but it should work and make it possible to build up in stages. I know scout 44 stubs fit cj hubs, not sure about waggy or ford hubs, but someone around here will. Check Billavista's page I think he used 44 knuckles on his xj 30 front at one point.

Just keep me in mind when you go to get rid of those flanges.

05-03-2003, 10:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
281 Quad Cam Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18211 Location: Florida Posts: 316	What happened to locking hubs? (1979 CJ5 258/T150/D20 D30/M20) were locking hubs standard on all Jeep CJ's back in the day? Anyway i was under the impression they were... but my CJ-5 is pulling this shit up front... I didn't care for a while, but now i want to weld my 30, and i need to be able to unlock my hubs... i need to ask whats going on! Assuming its a stock 30, how many splines is it - ill need to know when looking for a warn locking hub. But what do i need for the thing? Just the locking hubs for 80 bucks, or warn's whole "locking hub kit" for a couple hundred more... i figure that depends in whether mine is setup for it, any way to tell from that picture? its got the 6 bolt hub business happening. I know this will probly result in me taking it apart and looking for myself, but i figured i would ask...

05-04-2003, 06:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
kwrangln Doublewide engineer Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6971 Location: Gulf coast Posts: 5,904	What you have are drive flanges. Send them to me! When you call whoever for hubs just tell them you need 6 bolt external hubs for a Cj. Send me the drive flanges! The same hubs will also fit scouts and are pretty common. Did I mention that I have been looking for some drive flanges? You dont need a hub "kit" all you have to do is unbolt the drive flanges (send them to me) and bolt on the new hubs. No conversion necessary. __________________ I'm the "tack tack tack" welding nazi. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showp...&postcount=218 "I didn't mean to kill nobody ... I just meant to shoot the sonofabitch in the head. Him dying was between him and the Lord." R. L. Burnside

05-04-2003, 01:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
kwrangln Doublewide engineer Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6971 Location: Gulf coast Posts: 5,904	Dont have but one spare layin around or I'd trade ya strait across. Heres an Idea tho. I know cj knuckles will bolt to a 44 housing (got em on my early bronco 44 housing now) so it should work the other way. Get a set of 44 knuckles and outers, run the 44 internal spline hubs, then when you upgrade to the 44 housing you already have the outers built. Might have to do some checking on compatability, but it should work and make it possible to build up in stages. I know scout 44 stubs fit cj hubs, not sure about waggy or ford hubs, but someone around here will. Check Billavista's page I think he used 44 knuckles on his xj 30 front at one point. Just keep me in mind when you go to get rid of those flanges. __________________ I'm the "tack tack tack" welding nazi. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showp...&postcount=218 "I didn't mean to kill nobody ... I just meant to shoot the sonofabitch in the head. Him dying was between him and the Lord." R. L. Burnside

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05-04-2003, 05:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
MikeW Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11975 Location: Bemidji Posts: 2,230	I remember reading a past issue of Four Wheeler on a early CJ, something like the first or second generation. One pic showed a box with the manual hubs that could be installed.

05-04-2003, 07:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
KS Toy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 7938 Location: The Land of OZ... Posts: 3,512	I do not have the answer to your question but you might want to re-think the welding of that 30...................

05-04-2003, 10:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
281 Quad Cam Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18211 Location: Florida Posts: 316	whats to re-think? i only run 35's with an unhealthy 258. not worth paying for a locker or spool upfront for a D30, and i cant replace it till i break it!

05-04-2003, 10:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
281 Quad Cam Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18211 Location: Florida Posts: 316	btw, kwranglin... im trying to find hubs in my price range, if i can get a good deal ill send you them... but as of now i cant seem to get a set under 100 bucks, i might try to sell the flanges to offset the cost if i cant get them atleast under 100! My biggest consideration is that after welding the 30, i have no idea how long it will last.......... Eventually i will end up destroying it! and the investment in sparkling new warn hubs will see pretty dumb, as im sure they wont fit on a 44 or whatever goes in next. so id like to find a set of used hubs on ebay or something. if you have hubs now that would help me, ill send you the flanges plus $$$ to even it out.