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boytoy · 05-05-2003, 10:31 AM

looking to buy new tires and was wondering if you guys think that the mud kings are worth the money. suggestions would be nice also.

OC · 05-05-2003, 11:00 AM

they run like bfg muds, if you do alot of mud wheeling i would stay away from them. They should be fine for a dd thou.

dog walker · 05-05-2003, 11:20 AM

They are worth the money, great deal in fact. Here's the downside: 2 ply sidwalls allow for great sidewall flex, but very vulnerable to sidewall tears. Mostly with rock crawlin. However, you can get the roadside warranty with them.

They are smaller on average than most 33's and 35's, tread wear in fairly fast compared to BFG's. But then again, $115 for a 35 is prety darn cheap.

Road manners are very nice, tire is fairly quite.

donjr5 · 05-05-2003, 01:57 PM

The lugs aren't very deep, I don't expect mine to last much more than 12K or 15K miles. They're OK on mud, really good on rock. I haven't cut one yet. Won mine in a Raffle. They are fairly quiet on the highway, real nice for my DD.

zakk · 05-05-2003, 03:22 PM

they suck. all the noise of a swamper with none of the performance.

s2pid whitey · 05-05-2003, 05:05 PM

i have them right now... they have good sidewall flex, but the tread isn't real deep. i'm not sure about ZAKK's experience with them, but neither of my 2 sets thus far have made much sound at all. not the best tire in the world, but worth the money. i'd recommend them for sand, some mud and minor rock crawling... a good DD/weekend wheeler tire.

MikeW · 05-05-2003, 05:07 PM

Have you thought of Goodyear MT/Rs?
They were ranked 3rd in a mud tire test in Peterson's or the regular Four Wheeler behind the Swampers.

Brandon · 05-05-2003, 11:51 PM

I run em, no complaints whatsoever and it is the quitest mud I have ran..

mark268 · 05-06-2003, 03:44 AM

I have a new set of 31"s for sale. $300 with new rims mounted and balanced. May seperate.

dog walker · 05-06-2003, 07:56 AM

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they suck. all the noise of a swamper with none of the performance

You don't know what you're talkin about!

One other thing, is that they work very well in the snow.

Brandon, I still disagree with you as I have for about 3 years now. Your Jeep has General Grabbers, not Mud Kings!

fourwd1 · 05-06-2003, 09:13 AM

No complaints, good tire for the $. They work well in mud and rocks, and on the street they handle OK and are quiet for a mud tire.

cj7 · 05-11-2003, 04:35 PM

I've been running mine for over 4.5 years, and it's a DD! I do have a short drive to work though. I'm in the market right now for a new set. I would estimate that it has about 2-3k left before they have to go. I'm not one to run a tire until they're bald either. Typically (especially with cheap tires), there is a trade off between traction and wear. A long wearing tire will typically have a harder compound. Mud Kings seem to be such a tire. The only bad thing I have to say about the Mud Kings is that they have a tendency to chunk in rocks. Otherwise, they wear excellent, they are quiet, the sidewalls flex nicely, and they provide reasonable traction. And here are my thoughts on traction, the Mud Kings are pretty good, but I would rather break traction than axles! They've taken me just about anywhere I've wanted to go. I usually run between 10-13 psi.

In a nutshell, I'd recommend them for the average wheeler. I'd really like the MT/Rs for myself, but I'm keeping the MKs in the back of my mind.

moveaside · 05-11-2003, 06:16 PM

I'm running them 4 used for $200 and I'm not bitching. They flex great I just have to watch where I'm putting those sidewalls and where I can spin them.

cj79 · 05-11-2003, 11:13 PM

ever thougth about the General mud terrains. i had a set of 33 on my full size bronco. they cost me $105 each. when i bought them but that was about 2 years ago .. but at the time they were good for the money.. just another option for you.

Kcrawler · 05-11-2003, 11:56 PM

i run 33" mud kings.. can't complain but those 2ply sidewalls scare me..

TNToy · 05-12-2003, 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by MikeW
Have you thought of Goodyear MT/Rs?
They were ranked 3rd in a retarded-ass article. You should buy them based on that.

I fixed it for you. Anyone who would rank an MT/R over ANY swaper (except maybe that STS pos) needs their head examined. ALL RADIAL LT TIRES SUCK IN MUD.

That said, I don't like mud kings. Too weak to run in rocks, and too, well, radial mall-terrain-type to be a good mud tire.

Don't get me wrong, Mike, I ran MT/Rs and liked them. But they suck ass in mud. Lots of ass.

05-05-2003, 10:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
boytoy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12546 Location: Lk. Stevens, Washington Posts: 88	mud kings looking to buy new tires and was wondering if you guys think that the mud kings are worth the money. suggestions would be nice also. __________________ 1985 toy sr5 7 leaf waggy springs in front, 63" chevy's in the rear,buggy leaf, exo cage, ARB front bumper,winch, on borad air, lincoln locked 1989 4runner daily driver stock

05-05-2003, 11:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
OC Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18289 Location: E-city NC Posts: 84	they run like bfg muds, if you do alot of mud wheeling i would stay away from them. They should be fine for a dd thou. __________________ HC130H LM/DM

05-05-2003, 11:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
dog walker Discount! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 156 Location: Orangevale, CA Posts: 6,785	They are worth the money, great deal in fact. Here's the downside: 2 ply sidwalls allow for great sidewall flex, but very vulnerable to sidewall tears. Mostly with rock crawlin. However, you can get the roadside warranty with them. They are smaller on average than most 33's and 35's, tread wear in fairly fast compared to BFG's. But then again, $115 for a 35 is prety darn cheap. Road manners are very nice, tire is fairly quite. __________________ Jeff Fretwell 72 FJ40 67 FJ45 83 Toyota 4x4 LB

05-05-2003, 01:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
donjr5 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 17445 Location: Pilot Point, TX Posts: 160	The lugs aren't very deep, I don't expect mine to last much more than 12K or 15K miles. They're OK on mud, really good on rock. I haven't cut one yet. Won mine in a Raffle. They are fairly quiet on the highway, real nice for my DD. __________________ [url="http://mysite.verizon.net/dchurch1/jeep/CJ5"]'73 CJ5[/url].

05-05-2003, 03:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
zakk A fucking killer Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7334 Location: Infernal Region Posts: 2,187	they suck. all the noise of a swamper with none of the performance. __________________ Fuck you Love, -zakk

05-05-2003, 05:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
s2pid whitey Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 17193 Location: dallas texas Posts: 172	i have them right now... they have good sidewall flex, but the tread isn't real deep. i'm not sure about ZAKK's experience with them, but neither of my 2 sets thus far have made much sound at all. not the best tire in the world, but worth the money. i'd recommend them for sand, some mud and minor rock crawling... a good DD/weekend wheeler tire. __________________ nix my money goes to beer, parts and women... in that order... the rest i just waste.

05-05-2003, 05:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
MikeW Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11975 Location: Bemidji Posts: 2,230	Have you thought of Goodyear MT/Rs? They were ranked 3rd in a mud tire test in Peterson's or the regular Four Wheeler behind the Swampers.

05-05-2003, 11:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
Brandon Registered User Join Date: Mar 1975 Member # 6 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 13,666	I run em, no complaints whatsoever and it is the quitest mud I have ran.. __________________ This Space for rent!

05-06-2003, 03:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
mark268 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 17433 Location: Indiana Posts: 152	I have a new set of 31"s for sale. $300 with new rims mounted and balanced. May seperate.

05-06-2003, 09:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
fourwd1 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4842 Location: Baltimore, MD - the Tax You to Death State Posts: 550	No complaints, good tire for the $. They work well in mud and rocks, and on the street they handle OK and are quiet for a mud tire. __________________ '80's Toy P/U-Buick 231 V6, Holley 4 bbl, Weiand intake, Downey headers, custom TH350 L/U w/700R4 1st gear, dual tanks, dual batts, ... 84 4Runner SR5-ARBed 5.29's F&R, 4.7 t-case, AP x-over, Chevy's, 2" drv trn lift, 36" TSLs, 30 spl Longs [URL=http://www.marylandcreepers.com]Maryland Creepers[/URL] [URL=http://www.keystonekrawlers.com]Keystone Krawlers[/URL]

05-11-2003, 04:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
cj7 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5421 Location: Siloam Springs, AR Posts: 100	I've been running mine for over 4.5 years, and it's a DD! I do have a short drive to work though. I'm in the market right now for a new set. I would estimate that it has about 2-3k left before they have to go. I'm not one to run a tire until they're bald either. Typically (especially with cheap tires), there is a trade off between traction and wear. A long wearing tire will typically have a harder compound. Mud Kings seem to be such a tire. The only bad thing I have to say about the Mud Kings is that they have a tendency to chunk in rocks. Otherwise, they wear excellent, they are quiet, the sidewalls flex nicely, and they provide reasonable traction. And here are my thoughts on traction, the Mud Kings are pretty good, but I would rather break traction than axles! They've taken me just about anywhere I've wanted to go. I usually run between 10-13 psi. In a nutshell, I'd recommend them for the average wheeler. I'd really like the MT/Rs for myself, but I'm keeping the MKs in the back of my mind. __________________ '84 CJ-7, F/R D44s w/detroits 4.56s, 35" MT/Rs, T-18, Vortec 5.7L, Mastercraft Seats

05-11-2003, 06:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
moveaside Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11983 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 2,958	I'm running them 4 used for $200 and I'm not bitching. They flex great I just have to watch where I'm putting those sidewalls and where I can spin them. __________________ My crappy build [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=587635[/url]

05-11-2003, 11:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
cj79 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4213 Location: North Richland Hills TX Posts: 598	ever thougth about the General mud terrains. i had a set of 33 on my full size bronco. they cost me $105 each. when i bought them but that was about 2 years ago .. but at the time they were good for the money.. just another option for you. __________________ shoprockandrolloffroad.com

05-11-2003, 11:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
Kcrawler Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13696 Location: Walnut Creek Ca Posts: 830	i run 33" mud kings.. can't complain but those 2ply sidewalls scare me..

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