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Scott Jensen · 11-26-2003, 08:31 PM

i'm trying to build a budget rockcrawler and have narrowed it down to a toyota pick-up or 4 runner and sammy's. which one would be cheaper to build from your stand points and what tips do you have about doing it that way? Thanks

sickfab · 11-26-2003, 08:43 PM

1st or 2nd generation toy p-up. For a million reasons.
tough frames
bitchen drive train
awesomely engineered axles
the best motors ever built ,20r,22r,22re
the list goes on...

Keith Strong · 11-26-2003, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sickfab
1st or 2nd generation toy p-up. For a million reasons.
tough frames
bitchen drive train
awesomely engineered axles
the best motors ever built ,20r,22r,22re
the list goes on...

Yeah...pretty much what he said

tuffjarhed2 · 11-27-2003, 07:11 AM

YOTA! YOTA! YOTA!

Scott Jensen · 11-27-2003, 09:03 PM

anyone have any other opinions?

Beat95YJ · 11-27-2003, 10:38 PM

Toyota. 4Runner or Pickup doesn't matter. Get a straight axle front either way. Easier to start that way. There are 80 bajillion parts available to make those things work.

Have fun!

Wideopen · 11-28-2003, 12:37 AM

My vote goes out for toyota....
Like everybody else said, Badass axles, cheap, good frames, motors.etc.

runred4x4 · 11-28-2003, 12:50 PM

85 toyota p/u or 4runner efi 22r and a strait axle. good luck

mixmaster · 11-28-2003, 08:41 PM

I also say go for a early toyota. Like was said, awesome motors that last forever, tough axles and frame plus there is a lot of aftermarket parts for them. You can get a really good suspension for pretty cheap (63"chevy's from junkyard) and dual cases from marlin and you are pretty set. You can pretty much always find them for pretty cheap too, I am selling mine cheap if you are interested.

masonmachines · 11-28-2003, 10:50 PM

go with the toyota because parts are available cheap.

jeepNicK · 11-28-2003, 11:10 PM

a yota will take alot of abuse with you not having to put much money into it. if you can find one with a 22re and a solid front axle jump on it. you can wheel it for a while and then if you decide on something different you can easily sell it to another yota wheeler

Karl Andraschko · 11-30-2003, 05:39 AM

Yota components, tube chassis. Air Ride sells 'em for a reasonable amount.

Colorado_bound · 11-30-2003, 07:55 AM

I vote Yota too. But I'm biased.

Starslope · 11-30-2003, 02:40 PM

I say zuk! 33", sawzall and some spares and you got a kick ass rig. No money, no worries.

And toyota frames being sturdy? I've bent two..

Rocksurfer · 11-30-2003, 05:31 PM

I have wheeled several types had Toyota's to start with, went to a sammy, a Ranger, then to a Willys. Personally I would never run another Sammy, wheelbase scared the hell out of me, I miss my Ranger/splash, 5 inch lift ARB's 33's gearing was a little high though, my Willys is ok but it has issues too, breaks every time I take it out. If you look at my sig. line you'll note that I'm looking for something in line with a Toyota which after going through several types in the past 5 years found it to be the best that I have wheeled.

11-26-2003, 08:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
Scott Jensen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18298 Location: Union City, California Posts: 888	which one? i'm trying to build a budget rockcrawler and have narrowed it down to a toyota pick-up or 4 runner and sammy's. which one would be cheaper to build from your stand points and what tips do you have about doing it that way? Thanks

11-26-2003, 08:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
sickfab Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20208 Location: Pollock Pines, but dont worry, I decided to keep my full set of teeth, unlike most everyone else up here... Posts: 2,397	1st or 2nd generation toy p-up. For a million reasons. tough frames bitchen drive train awesomely engineered axles the best motors ever built ,20r,22r,22re the list goes on... __________________ [QUOTE=Myanarchy;6682920] Thanks for the tips, I think I'm gonna stick it between max volume and his boyfriend's pelvis. The force of their love could crush a bowling ball[/QUOTE]

11-27-2003, 07:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
tuffjarhed2 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15675 Location: Ft. Wayne, In Posts: 7	YOTA! YOTA! YOTA! __________________ For Sale: 1985 Toyota Reg Cab Short box 4x4. PM for details

11-27-2003, 10:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Beat95YJ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 22176 Location: Redondo Beach Posts: 8,749	Toyota. 4Runner or Pickup doesn't matter. Get a straight axle front either way. Easier to start that way. There are 80 bajillion parts available to make those things work. Have fun! __________________ I can break a steel ball in a rubber room!

11-28-2003, 08:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
mixmaster Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15618 Location: Logan, Utah Posts: 621	I also say go for a early toyota. Like was said, awesome motors that last forever, tough axles and frame plus there is a lot of aftermarket parts for them. You can get a really good suspension for pretty cheap (63"chevy's from junkyard) and dual cases from marlin and you are pretty set. You can pretty much always find them for pretty cheap too, I am selling mine cheap if you are interested. __________________ Mike Bodrero '68 FJ40, '79 & '71 FJ55, '93 FZJ80 www.wasatchcruisers.org

11-27-2003, 09:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
Scott Jensen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18298 Location: Union City, California Posts: 888	anyone have any other opinions?

11-28-2003, 12:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Wideopen Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 22380 Location: Camas Wa. Posts: 630	My vote goes out for toyota.... Like everybody else said, Badass axles, cheap, good frames, motors.etc.

11-28-2003, 12:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
runred4x4 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19619 Location: southern oregon Posts: 80	85 toyota p/u or 4runner efi 22r and a strait axle. good luck

11-28-2003, 10:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
masonmachines Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10736 Posts: 2,013	go with the toyota because parts are available cheap.

11-28-2003, 11:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
jeepNicK Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7349 Location: Chesapeake, Va Posts: 124	a yota will take alot of abuse with you not having to put much money into it. if you can find one with a 22re and a solid front axle jump on it. you can wheel it for a while and then if you decide on something different you can easily sell it to another yota wheeler __________________ 93 yj on 35s waiting on money to be done right

11-30-2003, 05:39 AM	#12 (permalink)
Karl Andraschko Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 7937 Location: left of center Posts: 74	Yota components, tube chassis. Air Ride sells 'em for a reasonable amount. __________________ If a Jeep can't take you there, maybe you ought to reconsider going

11-30-2003, 07:55 AM	#13 (permalink)
Colorado_bound Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5180 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 122	I vote Yota too. But I'm biased. __________________ '83 Toyota w/ this and that.

11-30-2003, 02:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
Starslope Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Member # 18910 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,110	I say zuk! 33", sawzall and some spares and you got a kick ass rig. No money, no worries. And toyota frames being sturdy? I've bent two.. __________________ [list][][b][URL=http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=135378]Comp. rig:[/URL][/b] Suzuki 410 -85 Olds496cui/TH400/NP205/1350s/D60 front/D60-70 hybrid rear/44x18,5x16,5 [][b][URL=http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=144719]Trail rig:[/URL][/b] Buggy RR215cui/BW55/410/1310s/410 4WS/33x18x15[*][b][u]Daily Driver:[/u][/b] Suzuki 410 -85[/list][URL=http://www.offroad-racing.net][size=4][b]www.offroad-racing.net[/size][/b][/URL]

11-30-2003, 05:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
Rocksurfer Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21648 Location: The Beach Posts: 309	I have wheeled several types had Toyota's to start with, went to a sammy, a Ranger, then to a Willys. Personally I would never run another Sammy, wheelbase scared the hell out of me, I miss my Ranger/splash, 5 inch lift ARB's 33's gearing was a little high though, my Willys is ok but it has issues too, breaks every time I take it out. If you look at my sig. line you'll note that I'm looking for something in line with a Toyota which after going through several types in the past 5 years found it to be the best that I have wheeled. Last edited by Rocksurfer; 11-30-2003 at 05:33 PM.

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