wat type of a 4 door SUV should i get for offroading?

[avtO]

hey all.. i decided to get a 2nd generation 4runner (1990-95). trying to figure out which year is made best for offroadin' abilities. also what kinda stuff i should put on it. im not going hardcore yet, im jst learnin' all about offroadin', etc... wat mods r best for 2nd gen 4runners?! THX.

[wetnsloppy4x]

A Four Runner or XJ would be my choices. The Runner being my first choice since everyone and their dog seems to have an XJ. The runner would take less work to make it truly capable off road in my opinion.

[Islandzuki]

4 runna...

[tanman2003]

land rover discovery!
fawk for a first car, id get a bronco any year, all are cool, you dont need 4 doors!

[luvmeye22RE]

85 runner fuel injected, without question.

[Old Scout]

Why I bought a Land Rover Disco :


Wanted a solid axle rig ( IFS/IRS sux ass )
Wanted a full boxed frame (Unibody suxs)
Wanted an all gear transfer case ( chains sux)
Wanted a mid size rig. 108" wheelbase max!
Wanted a V8
Wanted 4 door.

No other SUV could meet my wants and I got a Full Float rear axle and a nice low range (3.25:1) as part of the deal.

[tanman2003]

yeah you find an awesome on for under $5000 and one that needs no work for a 16 y.o. kid that has to go to school in it.

[Old Scout]

Originally posted by tanman2003
yeah you find an awesome on for under $5000 and one that needs no work for a 16 y.o. kid that has to go to school in it.

Don't be a dumbass, Ohh wait that's asking to much:



http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...hreadid=238191

So how much would a 94 or 95 with 20-30k more miles and not top of the line cost???

[tanman2003]

oooooooooooooooooo you got me! yahatzzee! checkmate! Blackjack! You sunk my battleship! what about parts and maintainence? what about the first scratch on your (in my best british accent) Laaaannnd Roooover.?

[Old Scout]

Originally posted by tanman2003
oooooooooooooooooo you got me! yahatzzee! checkmate! Blackjack! You sunk my battleship! what about parts and maintainence? what about the first scratch on your (in my best british accent) Laaaannnd Roooover.?

Well at least my Laaand Roooooover runs bigger rubber than 31"!

What about parts???

Actual prices off of http://www.discountbritishparts.com/...I/disco_i.html

Serpentine Belt (ERR5579) only $25.95

Air Filters (ESR1445) only $11.95

Oil Filters (ERR3340) only $7.95

Fuel Filters (ESR4065) only $17.95

DI factory Shop Manual (G) (LRL0079ENG) $119.95

DI Radiator Hose Bottom (ESR1819) $38.95

DI Radiator Hose Top (ESR3297) $15.00


Expansion Tank (ESR63) > PCF101590 $48.95

OME Steering Damper (OMESD11) $65.00

Steering Damper OE $39.95

Brake Pads Full Set Genuine $119.95

Front Pads $64.95 Rear Pads $59.95

Front Brake rotors (FRC7329) $59.00

Rear Brake rotors (FTC1381) $59.00

[tanman2003]

easy there old timer, just ribbin ya. sure id like to have a D90, but im a poor college student, the site you had said $7000 and also you have to look hard for a deal, he's 16 and needs wheels. can your disco fit 31"s stock? my 4runner is bone stock. trying to raise funds for it, i bought it for $1900 and it 4wheels fine for $1900 could you have bought a disco when you were 16? or sould i say 1930 Rover 10/25' ? is that more appropriate?

[JeepinDoug]

Originally posted by avtO
personaly i like 4runners, except for the 1st generation ones.

Aren't the first Runners solid front axle? That would eliminate the need to SAS a later model.

[Old Scout]

Originally posted by tanman2003
easy there old timer, just ribbin ya. sure id like to have a D90, but im a poor college student, the site you had said $7000 and also you have to look hard for a deal, he's 16 and needs wheels. can your disco fit 31"s stock? my 4runner is bone stock. trying to raise funds for it, i bought it for $1900 and it 4wheels fine for $1900 could you have bought a disco when you were 16? or sould i say 1930 Rover 10/25' ? is that more appropriate?

Just STFU!

[JeepinDoug]

Hey OS, My sis test drove a new HSE today. She loved it, what the hell she could afford it.

Infact, I think I'll have my new toy tomorrow, 600tq ctd, crossing fingers.

[wetnsloppy4x]

Originally posted by Old Scout


Well at least my Laaand Roooooover runs bigger rubber than 31"!

What about parts???

Actual prices off of http://www.discountbritishparts.com/...I/disco_i.html

Serpentine Belt (ERR5579) only $25.95

Air Filters (ESR1445) only $11.95

Oil Filters (ERR3340) only $7.95

Fuel Filters (ESR4065) only $17.95

DI factory Shop Manual (G) (LRL0079ENG) $119.95

DI Radiator Hose Bottom (ESR1819) $38.95

DI Radiator Hose Top (ESR3297) $15.00


Expansion Tank (ESR63) > PCF101590 $48.95

OME Steering Damper (OMESD11) $65.00

Steering Damper OE $39.95

Brake Pads Full Set Genuine $119.95

Front Pads $64.95 Rear Pads $59.95

Front Brake rotors (FRC7329) $59.00

Rear Brake rotors (FTC1381) $59.00

Maintenence costs would be a concern for me too.

Scout you quoted prices for a bunch of everyday stuff you can prolly get a Scmucks or some other cheap ass parts store. What about other parts? Like stuff you have to go to the dealer for?What happens when you have to rebuld the engine? Or rebuild an auto? I'm guessing big $$$ in this deptartment. But I dunno. That's why I ask. I gotta admit. Rotors are cheaper than I thought they'd be.

[Old Scout]

Originally posted by wetnsloppy4x


Maintenence costs would be a concern for me too.

Scout you quoted prices for a bunch of everyday stuff you can prolly get a Scmucks or some other cheap ass parts store. What about other parts? Like stuff you have to go to the dealer for?What happens when you have to rebuld the engine? Or rebuild an auto? I'm guessing big $$$ in this deptartment. But I dunno. That's why I ask. I gotta admit. Rotors are cheaper than I thought they'd be.

The engine is buick based and not what you think as far as $$ parts. A factory rebuilt head is $299! The auto trans is a ZF HP22 , anyone that works on BMW, MBZ, Ford auto boxes knows them well.

You can get a few parts at local Scmucks,Vato Zone, Napa, Car Quest , but not many.

Dig around
HERE if you want to see more parts costs.

[MikeW]

92-96 Bronco with 351

[avtO]

hey all, k im focused on 4 runners now.. thx to all for helpin' me out. but what year 4runner should i get thats 4 doors?

[wetnsloppy4x]

I know you said you don't like first generation 4-runners but one of those would be my pick. I like the removable top. The 2nd gen. runners are nice too.

Toy buffs: Didn't the first year or two have a solid diff up front? If memory serves, 86 was the first year for IFS, correct? What was the first year the the runner? 84', 85', 86'?

[tanman2003]

well they started mid 84, but thats irelavant, he wants 4 doors. I say get the newest good one you can afford. the old 3.0 v6 isnt nessesary or impressive, so dont bust your balls looking for it. your probably gonna get a chain driven t-case. i say save your money and dont bother getting an ifs lift. rogerbrown might have a body lift for ya. get a rear insertable locker, and some mud tires and go.

[Rocksurfer]

4Runner is the quickest and easiest to get offroadable as far as I'm concerned. The only drawback is the IFS but that can be dealt with. The Cherokee is a unibody and needs alot of support to keep it from bending the body up while the 4Runner is a full-frame vehicle. Now if you are going to fix it up sas conversion is the way to go if you want a hardcore rig, but if you are not that far into it yet the IFS will work just fine for you. If you get a v6 make it an auto trans since it will be instantly fun if you lock the axles. If you want a 4banger make it a stick since you'll need a secondary t-case to accomidate for the gearing. The v6 yota rear axle is just as strong as a dana 44 and will serve you well and as long as you are not a throttle jockey the IFS will survive in the front until you can do the conversion.

[avtO]

hey all... IM A NOOBIE, no quastions asked.
im not going hardcore 4wheelin' jst yet, therefore i wanna get an offroadin' suv that i could cruise in, and go offroadin' it since its gonna be my 1st and only car. im 16. im stickin' to a 2nd generation 4runner.. so if u could help me out choosin' the year for the 2nd gen 4run. that'd be great. also i like to know what type of stuff shud i get it with. like transmision, cylinders, etc... THX!

[DieLucas!]

Originally posted by tanman2003
but im a poor college student, the site you had said $7000 and also you have to look hard for a deal, he's 16 and needs wheels.

My '95 Disco is for sale...$7000 would take it home right now.

BTW, I'm a poor college student, too

[DieLucas!]

Originally posted by Rocksurfer
4Runner is the quickest and easiest to get offroadable as far as I'm concerned. The only drawback is the IFS...

These two statements clearly refute each other. Not to toot my own horn, but the only mods you need on a Discovery is to disconnect and/or remove the anti-sway bars...

[mikesimpson]

A Jeep Cherokee, 'nuff said.