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scj0006 · 06-03-2004, 04:51 PM

I was wheelin last weekend and I went up a steep hill and my jeep started to blow out black smoke like a diesel, but I don’t have a diesel. Is this good? I have a Chrysler 304 gas. Also when I would try to go up really steep hills my jeep would get half way up the hill and die. Could it be the carb or something wrong with the ignition timing? When I would try to restart the jeep it would act like it was flooded, so I had to sit there for a min and it would start.

ddestruel · 06-07-2004, 12:18 PM

1. YOU DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING CRYSLER 304. Jeep never used a chrysler 304, cause crysler never made one, it was made in house by AMC. also the AMC 360 is not in any way shape or form close to a Mopus 360- either.

AMC motors are AMC not mopar not Ford, Chevy, or any thing else. If you own a jeep you need to understand this. The only outcasts were the Buick Valiant V-6 and the Iron Duke 151, which was done under the watchful eye of Kaiser. AMC took over jeep in the early 70's 70/71 from there through to the days of the Wrangler, Jeep used AMC motors AMC 304 v-8 in your case.

2. Blue smoke and Black smoke

Blue smoke = Rings and valve guides

Black Carburation and possibly ignition. since it did it on a hill id lean towards flooding out and over fueling, there in probably lies your problem get your Carb fixed.

Davethorik · 06-07-2004, 02:28 PM

The closest AMC and Chrysler got in another brand (afaik) would be late production (73-75, iirc) 2wd International pickups with an AMC-sourced 401 V8 and a Chrysler TF727 automatic tranny...from the factory. Talk about odd. But enough bashing on you, this is the Noob forum anyway...we are all here to learn (except for a few dickheads

). I would agree that you need to adjust your carb...you're running rich.

ddestruel · 06-07-2004, 03:34 PM

I get a little ahead of myself and wound up about it when people call AMC's something else.

scj0006 · 06-07-2004, 07:03 PM

Sorry for the confusion about what kind of engine I have. I was just going by what I was told a long time ago and never figured to check it out. You don’t have to have an aneurism over this.

JeepinDoug · 06-07-2004, 08:20 PM

More than likely your floats are set too high for climbing steep grades. The fuel bowl fills up and on a steep grade will slosh over through the vent and pour down the venturi....flooding the cylinders. Adjust your floats a little at a time and see what works best cause if you go too low, stabbing the throttle on flat ground may will starve the bowls.
Don't ask how to set your floats unless you know exactly which carb you have.

06-03-2004, 04:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
scj0006 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Member # 23647 Posts: 7	Diesel jeep I was wheelin last weekend and I went up a steep hill and my jeep started to blow out black smoke like a diesel, but I don’t have a diesel. Is this good? I have a Chrysler 304 gas. Also when I would try to go up really steep hills my jeep would get half way up the hill and die. Could it be the carb or something wrong with the ignition timing? When I would try to restart the jeep it would act like it was flooded, so I had to sit there for a min and it would start.

06-07-2004, 12:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
ddestruel Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 20999 Location: Lost in Nor Cal Posts: 2,809	1. YOU DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING CRYSLER 304. Jeep never used a chrysler 304, cause crysler never made one, it was made in house by AMC. also the AMC 360 is not in any way shape or form close to a Mopus 360- either. AMC motors are AMC not mopar not Ford, Chevy, or any thing else. If you own a jeep you need to understand this. The only outcasts were the Buick Valiant V-6 and the Iron Duke 151, which was done under the watchful eye of Kaiser. AMC took over jeep in the early 70's 70/71 from there through to the days of the Wrangler, Jeep used AMC motors AMC 304 v-8 in your case. 2. Blue smoke and Black smoke Blue smoke = Rings and valve guides Black Carburation and possibly ignition. since it did it on a hill id lean towards flooding out and over fueling, there in probably lies your problem get your Carb fixed. __________________ I AM ONE OF MANY WHOM WASHINGTON HAS CHOSEN TO IGNORE OR FORGET But i Vote GO UM Montana Griz "Jeep Lurker" KEEP REMEMBERING 9/11 Jeep with Rambler motor, SUA, front 608.9 and some bolt on stuff. I miss my old 4bt powered chief Support Frank the Tank Last edited by ddestruel; 06-07-2004 at 12:19 PM.

06-07-2004, 02:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Davethorik Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29210 Location: Stuck in traffic. Posts: 2,484	The closest AMC and Chrysler got in another brand (afaik) would be late production (73-75, iirc) 2wd International pickups with an AMC-sourced 401 V8 and a Chrysler TF727 automatic tranny...from the factory. Talk about odd. But enough bashing on you, this is the Noob forum anyway...we are all here to learn (except for a few dickheads ). I would agree that you need to adjust your carb...you're running rich. __________________ :laughing:

06-07-2004, 03:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
ddestruel Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 20999 Location: Lost in Nor Cal Posts: 2,809	I get a little ahead of myself and wound up about it when people call AMC's something else. __________________ I AM ONE OF MANY WHOM WASHINGTON HAS CHOSEN TO IGNORE OR FORGET But i Vote GO UM Montana Griz "Jeep Lurker" KEEP REMEMBERING 9/11 Jeep with Rambler motor, SUA, front 608.9 and some bolt on stuff. I miss my old 4bt powered chief Support Frank the Tank Last edited by ddestruel; 06-07-2004 at 03:35 PM.

06-07-2004, 08:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
JeepinDoug Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 13028 Location: So.S.F., CA Posts: 3,124	More than likely your floats are set too high for climbing steep grades. The fuel bowl fills up and on a steep grade will slosh over through the vent and pour down the venturi....flooding the cylinders. Adjust your floats a little at a time and see what works best cause if you go too low, stabbing the throttle on flat ground may will starve the bowls. Don't ask how to set your floats unless you know exactly which carb you have. __________________ I may lack much in way of integrety but I make up for it with pure denial. [URL=http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=377480][B][COLOR="Red"]Malvado Grande #1[/COLOR][/B][/URL]

06-07-2004, 07:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
scj0006 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Member # 23647 Posts: 7	Sorry for the confusion about what kind of engine I have. I was just going by what I was told a long time ago and never figured to check it out. You don’t have to have an aneurism over this.

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