detroit locker passing the buck? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

highroadconstruction · 02-07-2005, 06:38 PM

Hi out there, I'm a fawking newbie, so forgive my first thread. I have a 1997 tj with a 35 rear end and a super 35 kit. I just put the locker in it 14 months ago and it failed. The nobby gears inside stripped clean off, and the rest of the rear end was in good shape! I called detroit first about their $602.00 price tag for a locker, and then about some kind of warrantee. They told me ver batem that the model 35 was a VERY unreliable rear end and that diff breakages were common. I have been jeeping for 16 years and have never heard this! Can anyone out there agree with this statement or agree with me that they are making junk and selling it for top dollar!

gumbojeepyj · 02-07-2005, 07:36 PM

Why YES!!! I can confirm that the Dana 35 is a complete piece of shit!

TexasBlake · 02-07-2005, 07:40 PM

I run a Dana 35 with 53" Michelins powered by a Rolls Royce V12 and have never had a problem. Of course, the Detroit locker I run in it is custom machined out of Kevlar coated Titanium, was yours? That might by way it broke.

You might want to try to add torque tubes from a U404 to the axle, that way it will act as a third link to stop axle wrap.

The Dana 35 is so badass, I even made a front Dana 35. I put on the inner Cs and knuckles from a Dana 30 to make a my own Dana 32.5

SVENG52 · 02-07-2005, 07:44 PM

I BELIEVE THAT IS CALLED POLISHING A TURD

TexasBlake · 02-07-2005, 07:53 PM

This just in:

My buddy broke his Dana 35 last night doing a burnout. He has a 2.5L and 30" BFG mud terrains.

Po' riggity · 02-07-2005, 08:30 PM

Don't even try to blame this crap on Detroit locker. Ive talkd to one person in particular at tractech quite a few times, and you should know by now that a D35 is prone to breakage when being locked. Sometimes its the axle or housing, sometimes its the diff or locker. Suck it up.
Scott

trkklr77 · 02-07-2005, 09:08 PM

no matter how weak the stock axle is, its the after market part that broke THAT is the bull shit.

should have welded it!

gumbojeepyj · 02-07-2005, 09:13 PM

doesnt matter, he's the dumbass that put the turd polishing kit in a
D35, im sure the housing got tweaked and the odd assed loads it saw broke something in the detroit.

GaryTJ · 02-07-2005, 09:43 PM

I agree. If the detroit went and the axles are ok, the housing is bent. Pull it apart and weld the side gears in and you have a very expensive spool... Drive it until you get the money to go stronger.

LilRocky · 02-07-2005, 09:49 PM

It's just God's way of telling you that you need to ditch the 35. Don't argue with
God.

Majo · 02-07-2005, 10:00 PM

12:59 AM Eastern

TUESDAY

2/8/05

NE-RokToy · 02-07-2005, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryTJ

I agree. If the detroit went and the axles are ok, the housing is bent. Pull it apart and weld the side gears in and you have a very expensive spool... Drive it until you get the money to go stronger.

exactly its more then likely not the detroits fault it broke... its the puny dana 35 housing.

gumbojeepyj · 02-07-2005, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majo

12:59 AM Eastern

TUESDAY

2/8/05

Well I be damned, it sures enough is isnt it?!

Mo · 02-08-2005, 10:11 AM

Clean RC · 02-08-2005, 02:20 PM

Well first of all.... I think Superior is responsible for the failure...they manufacture and sell the product - so they are liable...contact them and ask what they are willing to do for you..
Second...never run a chromo shaft with any detroit product, the locker will blow up with too much shock loading. Your better off going back to stock axles and a limited slip in the D35 if that is what you choose to run..
I hope you are able to get this sorted out, good luck....

85GAJEEPCJ7 · 02-08-2005, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumbojeepyj

doesnt matter, he's the dumbass that put the turd polishing kit in a
D35, im sure the housing got tweaked and the odd assed loads it saw broke something in the detroit.

No offense dude, but don't you run a d-35C?

CrustyJeep · 02-08-2005, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trkklr77

no matter how weak the stock axle is, its the after market part that broke THAT is the bull shit.

This IS a good point... The Dana 35 is known to be weak, you'd think the Detroit would be stronger than the shafts. This isn't the only Dana 35 Detroit I've heard of blowing up, either.

Then again, maybe the housing flexes enough to take out the Detroit?

Bottom line here though, DO NOT POUR MONEY INTO A DANA 35.

gumbojeepyj · 02-08-2005, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 85GAJEEPCJ7

No offense dude, but don't you run a d-35C?

i sure do, with an open diff and a bent housing.

Its replacement is coming quite soon.

roknxj · 02-08-2005, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasBlake

The Dana 35 is so badass, I even made a front Dana 35. I put on the inner Cs and knuckles from a Dana 30 to make a my own Dana 32.5

If all dana 35 look like this I would say the same, but they don't so I will say it the Dana 35 is crap, crap and more crap.

JeffsJeep04 · 02-09-2005, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasBlake

This just in:

My buddy broke his Dana 35 last night doing a burnout. He has a 2.5L and 30" BFG mud terrains.

I'm more curious on getting a 4 banger to do a burn out then him breaking the 35...hell, anyone can do that!

master94546 · 02-14-2005, 01:00 AM

i work at a rear end shop. the d35 is the week link period no matter what u do to it. and as for superior be responsible i dont think so im running a detroit with the superior shafts and i have never had a problem. the d35s are prone to either bend the housing,break shafts or destroy the carrior. from the sound of things u might have bent the housing. take it out of the truck and see if it is bowed. if it is its not the parts that u bought that caused the problem its ur fucking houseing. u should just chuck the piece of shit and get a ford 8.8 u will be alot happier.

02-07-2005, 06:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
highroadconstruction Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41291 Location: Idaho Falls, ID. 83401 Posts: 25	detroit locker passing the buck? Hi out there, I'm a fawking newbie, so forgive my first thread. I have a 1997 tj with a 35 rear end and a super 35 kit. I just put the locker in it 14 months ago and it failed. The nobby gears inside stripped clean off, and the rest of the rear end was in good shape! I called detroit first about their $602.00 price tag for a locker, and then about some kind of warrantee. They told me ver batem that the model 35 was a VERY unreliable rear end and that diff breakages were common. I have been jeeping for 16 years and have never heard this! Can anyone out there agree with this statement or agree with me that they are making junk and selling it for top dollar!

02-07-2005, 07:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
gumbojeepyj Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20592 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,259	Why YES!!! I can confirm that the Dana 35 is a complete piece of shit! __________________ Blake http://www.lockitupoffroad.net

02-07-2005, 07:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
TexasBlake El Guapo Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9722 Location: Denver, ColoRADo Posts: 4,752	I run a Dana 35 with 53" Michelins powered by a Rolls Royce V12 and have never had a problem. Of course, the Detroit locker I run in it is custom machined out of Kevlar coated Titanium, was yours? That might by way it broke. You might want to try to add torque tubes from a U404 to the axle, that way it will act as a third link to stop axle wrap. The Dana 35 is so badass, I even made a front Dana 35. I put on the inner Cs and knuckles from a Dana 30 to make a my own Dana 32.5 Last edited by TexasBlake; 02-07-2005 at 07:43 PM.

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SVENG52 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Member # 18601 Location: CENTRAL CONNECTICUT Posts: 240	I BELIEVE THAT IS CALLED POLISHING A TURD __________________ 88YJ 67M715 00Excursion 7.3

02-07-2005, 09:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
trkklr77 skullfuckery Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29016 Location: galt ca, because i wanted my own backyard Posts: 15,232	no matter how weak the stock axle is, its the after market part that broke THAT is the bull shit. should have welded it! __________________ Impeach or revolt, which will it be? buy my quad http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/vehic...00-2500-a.html I WILL TRADE FOR A ROAD WORTHY 55-57 or 71-87 CHEVY 2WD PICK UP

02-07-2005, 07:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
TexasBlake El Guapo Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9722 Location: Denver, ColoRADo Posts: 4,752	This just in: My buddy broke his Dana 35 last night doing a burnout. He has a 2.5L and 30" BFG mud terrains.

02-07-2005, 09:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
gumbojeepyj Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20592 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,259	doesnt matter, he's the dumbass that put the turd polishing kit in a D35, im sure the housing got tweaked and the odd assed loads it saw broke something in the detroit. __________________ Blake http://www.lockitupoffroad.net

02-07-2005, 09:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
GaryTJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 36995 Location: Lynnwood, Wa Posts: 395	I agree. If the detroit went and the axles are ok, the housing is bent. Pull it apart and weld the side gears in and you have a very expensive spool... Drive it until you get the money to go stronger. __________________ Life is not about a pretty body, it is about sliding in at the end, all used up and worn out, going "Man, what a ride!" GaryTJ

02-07-2005, 09:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
LilRocky Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Member # 28566 Posts: 671	It's just God's way of telling you that you need to ditch the 35. Don't argue with God.

02-07-2005, 10:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
Majo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27549 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 66	12:59 AM Eastern TUESDAY 2/8/05

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Clean RC Wheeler Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27103 Location: Wa. Posts: 175	Well first of all.... I think Superior is responsible for the failure...they manufacture and sell the product - so they are liable...contact them and ask what they are willing to do for you.. Second...never run a chromo shaft with any detroit product, the locker will blow up with too much shock loading. Your better off going back to stock axles and a limited slip in the D35 if that is what you choose to run.. I hope you are able to get this sorted out, good luck....

02-14-2005, 01:00 AM	#21 (permalink)
master94546 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40037 Posts: 79	*d35 is the biggest pile of sht** i work at a rear end shop. the d35 is the week link period no matter what u do to it. and as for superior be responsible i dont think so im running a detroit with the superior shafts and i have never had a problem. the d35s are prone to either bend the housing,break shafts or destroy the carrior. from the sound of things u might have bent the housing. take it out of the truck and see if it is bowed. if it is its not the parts that u bought that caused the problem its ur fucking houseing. u should just chuck the piece of shit and get a ford 8.8 u will be alot happier.

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