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Bluebeast393cid · 04-25-2006, 12:40 PM

Ok i started to pull the 14B apart today and got all the retaining nuts and washers out. I can see the outer bearings but for some reason cannot pull the hub and drum off of the spindle. Trying to do this to do the brakes on this axle before I plant it in my truck.

so..

1. How does the drum and hub come off of the spindle pnce all the nuts and washers are off of it.

2. Is there any exploded view of the rear brakes? I could not find on in the 14B bible

Thanks again

JP

Donahue · 04-25-2006, 12:54 PM

you probably have to back off the adjusters on the brake shoes. if they are stuck, this is a real PITA. i had to slip the blade of a sawzal in thorough the backing plate and cut them in half to get my drums off.

Bluebeast393cid · 04-25-2006, 01:04 PM

but the drums seem to rotate freely w/o any drag on them. i didnt think that this would be an issue but then again i havent worked on a FF before

SanDiegoCJ · 04-25-2006, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluebeast393cid

but the drums seem to rotate freely w/o any drag on them. i didnt think that this would be an issue but then again i havent worked on a FF before

Read his post again. What he's telling you is that the brake shoes have worn
the inside of the drum and that there's a "lip" on the inside edge of the drum.
This will keep you from sliding the drum over the shoes. Ask me how I know.

2LoudDodge · 04-25-2006, 01:34 PM

he's right.

I had to take a BFH to mine and pound the crap outta them to knock em off. Totally sucked.

Where a mask. Whole bunch of brake dust goes into the air when you do it.

Bluebeast393cid · 04-25-2006, 04:22 PM

ok CJ i got it.. overlooked thatfrom the original. thanks

NetBSD · 04-25-2006, 05:20 PM

my 14b had the brakes cooked onto the drums or something, took me a 2 guys 3 hours with a BFH to get them off, but the lip will stop you no doubt and if you use a BFH be prepaird to buy new drums

Donahue · 04-25-2006, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBSD

my 14b had the brakes cooked onto the drums or something, took me a 2 guys 3 hours with a BFH to get them off, but the lip will stop you no doubt and if you use a BFH be prepaird to buy new drums

its cheaper to go disks than rebuild drums. it lease it was for me.

NetBSD · 04-26-2006, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donahue

its cheaper to go disks than rebuild drums. it lease it was for me.

yeah its $110 for 77 k20 rotos, calipers, brake pads, $210 for drums, hardware, shoes. that was the first mod i did to my 14b when i got it cuz the drums were toast and i didnt have $210

R290 · 04-26-2006, 11:03 PM

Here is your expolded view
14 bolt

It takes two small screw drives to release the adjuster. One to lift the arm and the other to turn the spiked wheel. left hand thread. turn the little wheel with one screw driver ( click click) know you know it needs to go the other direction. using the second screw driver to hold arm off the little wheel.

I know this is basic stuff, but thought it should be mentioned.

04-25-2006, 12:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bluebeast393cid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29382 Location: Why Not Minot Posts: 88	14B Brake questions Ok i started to pull the 14B apart today and got all the retaining nuts and washers out. I can see the outer bearings but for some reason cannot pull the hub and drum off of the spindle. Trying to do this to do the brakes on this axle before I plant it in my truck. so.. 1. How does the drum and hub come off of the spindle pnce all the nuts and washers are off of it. 2. Is there any exploded view of the rear brakes? I could not find on in the 14B bible Thanks again JP __________________ 90 Bko 393W/E4OD/BW1356 60/14 4.10s 4D2s

04-25-2006, 12:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Donahue Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68512 Location: Springfield, OR Posts: 1,153	you probably have to back off the adjusters on the brake shoes. if they are stuck, this is a real PITA. i had to slip the blade of a sawzal in thorough the backing plate and cut them in half to get my drums off. __________________ 89 s10, flogged regularly 94 burb, tow rig

04-25-2006, 01:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bluebeast393cid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29382 Location: Why Not Minot Posts: 88	but the drums seem to rotate freely w/o any drag on them. i didnt think that this would be an issue but then again i havent worked on a FF before __________________ 90 Bko 393W/E4OD/BW1356 60/14 4.10s 4D2s

04-25-2006, 04:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bluebeast393cid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29382 Location: Why Not Minot Posts: 88	ok CJ i got it.. overlooked thatfrom the original. thanks __________________ 90 Bko 393W/E4OD/BW1356 60/14 4.10s 4D2s

04-25-2006, 05:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
NetBSD Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50360 Location: Mount Carmel, PA. Posts: 1,634	my 14b had the brakes cooked onto the drums or something, took me a 2 guys 3 hours with a BFH to get them off, but the lip will stop you no doubt and if you use a BFH be prepaird to buy new drums __________________ 89 Ranger, 2.9, 6" lift, 35" baja claws 92 Silverado, 6.2L, GM-3 Turbo at 10PSI

04-25-2006, 01:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
2LoudDodge Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 49914 Location: Denver Posts: 74	he's right. I had to take a BFH to mine and pound the crap outta them to knock em off. Totally sucked. Where a mask. Whole bunch of brake dust goes into the air when you do it.

04-26-2006, 11:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
R290 AF6 OD Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46467 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,673	Here is your expolded view 14 bolt It takes two small screw drives to release the adjuster. One to lift the arm and the other to turn the spiked wheel. left hand thread. turn the little wheel with one screw driver ( click click) know you know it needs to go the other direction. using the second screw driver to hold arm off the little wheel. I know this is basic stuff, but thought it should be mentioned.

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