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Old 05-11-2006, 05:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Im looking at the Q78-15, the 34x9.50 tsl, and the 34x10.50 ltb. I would love to get the q78's but they are a full 35 inches, anyone know if a willys wagon with about 5 inches of lift can sqeeze them on? has anyone run the 34x9.50 tsl's in the mud and snow with good results?
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The 34X9.50's are AWESOME in mud - bite even harder than the Q78's. But, they're about 1 1/2" shorter, so I went with the Q's this time around. The 34X10.50 LTB's are okay in mud, but nowhere near as good as the 9.50 TSL's. Can't help ya with the snow though.

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thanx tex, is there a pic of your rig up on gumbo4x4.com?

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thanx tex, is there a pic of your rig up on gumbo4x4.com?
There is, but it's not identified as mine & it's pretty non-descript. Lemme see if I can find it.

Here's a Bronco on Q78's:



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Tex you are running those little skinnys in the Mud ?

Generally fatter is better..........
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Tex you are running those little skinnys in the Mud ?

Generally fatter is better..........
you know i always heard this before, but after wheeling in newengland trails with 34.950's on a flatefender they semed to dig better than the fatter tires. i looked at it like this, the skinney tires cut thru for the traction, kinda like a snow tire, the bigger the tire the more contact on the snow hence less traction and gm4life the 34's are awsom tires for most trail riding, jason.
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you know i always heard this before, but after wheeling in newengland trails with 34.950's on a flatefender they semed to dig better than the fatter tires. i looked at it like this, the skinney tires cut thru for the traction, kinda like a snow tire, the bigger the tire the more contact on the snow hence less traction and gm4life the 34's are awsom tires for most trail riding, jason.

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Tex you are running those little skinnys in the Mud ?

Generally fatter is better..........
I used to think that, too. I'm now in my 19th season of competition. Pizza cutters rule, fatties drool.

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the skinney tires cut thru for the traction, kinda like a snow tire, the bigger the tire the more contact on the snow hence less traction and gm4life the 34's are awsom tires for most trail riding, jason.
bring a skinny tire here in the snow u will be stuck soo quick cant get to traction when driving on 10 feet of snow. as far as mud i think the tires width is goin to depend on the kind of mud and the HP they u have

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I believe 420willys IS talking about mud. He's just likening it to snow. From what I can tell, those skinny tires really work. They don't have to "plow" as much mud, and they dig down deep too. Plus they have really deep tread depth.

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I will agree that it does depend on your power level somewhat. Up to about 800HP, you should be running pizza cutters at all 4's. Get much above that & the fatter tires begin to become useful on the rear.

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around here, them pizza cutters wont even touch the bottom before the diff is draging. plus wider tires off more "stability" with our big full sizes.
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pizza cutters assume there is a bottom close by...... and they are more for a lighter rig

fat boys dispurse the weight of the truck better and put more of a foot print onto the ground.

to each there own. i can think of terrian for each.
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The Q78s are great tires but I decided to run those simex tires. They seem to be even more aggressive then the Q's
Mine are 35x11.5 but they are available as 34x11.5 or 34x10.5 as well.


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After mud racing for 17 years I love my 35 inch Buckshot skinnies...

I started out running 38 Gumbo mudders on my F-150 then went to 38 Hawgs on the same truck...It did ok...

When I built the new 73 Bronco I ran the 35 Buckshots & love them...For mud racing Ill stick with the skinnies...less weight & with 500HP I just skip over the top...I ran the 38s & I lost 3 secs on my run just because of the weight...

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The Q78s are great tires but I decided to run those simex tires. They seem to be even more aggressive then the Q's
Mine are 35x11.5 but they are available as 34x11.5 or 34x10.5 as well.


Can you get those with a DOT stamp now? That was always the problem with SIMEX tires before since our classes require a DOT tire.

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around here, them pizza cutters wont even touch the bottom before the diff is draging.
Gotta compare apples & apples. Q78 vs. 35X15.50 for example. If you're comparing a 38.5X11 to a 39.5, the problem with the 38.5 isn't the lack of width, but he lack of HEIGHT.

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Get a pizza cutter if you can. I had skinnies on a 86 f-150 and you'd be suprised the places it went. Problem is on rocks I can't seem to get a skinny tire to hook up very well. So i stay in the 14.5^ range. Which to some is stupid wide. The bottom line is you just have to find what works for you, your rig, driving style, and terrain.
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yeah, around here for the type of mud and snow ill be getting into i will probaby put skinnies on. i would like the q78 for the same reason as TEX but i dont know if i would be able to squeeze them on the '50 willys wagon, so it looks like the 34x9x16 tsl's. since those tires are skinnier and lighter than the fatty tires it should put less stress on the drivetrain, right?
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OH! and are those simex tires DOT approved? they look wicked!
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Where do you get the simex tires? I looked on the web but didn't see a vender that looked familiar.

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After mud racing for 17 years I love my 35 inch Buckshot skinnies...
Those Q78-15 Buckshots?
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Those Q78-15 Buckshots?
Man its been years since I lookd at the size...There whatever the 35s come out to be....Ill look tonight when Im at the shop...I have to take a buttload of pix this truck & a few others I have are for sale...
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OH! and are those simex tires DOT approved? they look wicked!
They are not DOT approved yet but I have heard that they are working on that.

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the simex tires? I looked on the web but didn't see a vender that looked familiar.
I don't know if you can get them in the US.
This is the best site I have found on the web.
http://www.simex4x4.com/

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I don't know if you can get them in the US
Try here
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when they'll be back from the OBC...

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