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GM4Life · 06-05-2006, 07:13 PM

Whats an easier locker to install with minimal tools, one that replaces the carrier (detroit), or one that goes into the carrier (lockright)? looking forward to what would be easiest to install, anyone know from experience?

CJim7 · 06-05-2006, 07:47 PM

Any of the lunchbox lockers are going to be the easiest (Lockright, Noslip, etc.). If you have to replace the carrier (ARB, OX, Detroit full lockers), your looking at setting up the gears again. World of difference in simplicity.

fj40forlife · 06-05-2006, 08:04 PM

Just get the welder out thats the easier one lol

TANNERJENNINGS24 · 06-06-2006, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fj40forlife

Just get the welder out thats the easier one lol

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GM4Life · 06-06-2006, 04:37 PM

so is anyone running a welded front on and off road?

tennessee rockhumper · 06-06-2006, 08:59 PM

sure, as long as you have selectable hubs for the street.

GM4Life · 06-07-2006, 03:31 PM

so whats the difficulty from worse to easiest between lunchbox locker, carrier locker, welded, spool, and mini spool?

sha_ba_do_bang · 06-07-2006, 06:21 PM

welding isn't just busting out the mig and pouring some wire into it, to be done the right way the carrier has to be preheated and then tig welded and then either wrappe in a blanket to cool slowly or buried in special sand or put into a special oven, not that easy, better off getting a spool so it can be undone later

i'd say welding them properly is harder than setting up gears properly, but i have setup prolly 50 sets, nothing is really as cut and dry as it seems

Brendan

GM4Life · 06-07-2006, 08:13 PM

that blows. so if you dont let it cool slowly it gets really brittle kinda like when working with glass, huh?

tennessee rockhumper · 06-09-2006, 08:16 PM

B.S. --in a perfect world yeah, whatever, he is technically proper, but dont let him scare you.

if you mig weld the shit out of it, with good beads, use plenty of wire, and catch all the surface area you can, it will hold just fine. i have shattered ring and pinions, and twisted axle splines, and the 30 minute mig job i did has never failed.

to answer your question: 1.welded, follwed by 2.lunchbox and/or minispool, then 3. spool and/or carrier lockers

sha_ba_do_bang · 06-09-2006, 09:09 PM

alright, whatever, it will look like a wad of shit and you just ruined your carrier and spiders, i would get a spool just to save the carrier in case you ever want to go back

and you won't really have good luck mig welding it, it really needs to be tig welded with preheating, but nigger rig it if you want to

Brendan

06-05-2006, 07:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
GM4Life Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67499 Location: Eatonville, Wa Posts: 13	Easier Locker Whats an easier locker to install with minimal tools, one that replaces the carrier (detroit), or one that goes into the carrier (lockright)? looking forward to what would be easiest to install, anyone know from experience?

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CJim7 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Member # 72257 Location: IdaHo Posts: 1,325	Any of the lunchbox lockers are going to be the easiest (Lockright, Noslip, etc.). If you have to replace the carrier (ARB, OX, Detroit full lockers), your looking at setting up the gears again. World of difference in simplicity. __________________ I drive the fastest barbecue on 4 wheels...

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fj40forlife Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67882 Location: Orange County Posts: 2,324	Just get the welder out thats the easier one lol __________________ 120 fabrication Two fj40s on 60s

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tennessee rockhumper Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 52201 Location: fixing my junk so i can go break it Posts: 630	B.S. --in a perfect world yeah, whatever, he is technically proper, but dont let him scare you. if you mig weld the shit out of it, with good beads, use plenty of wire, and catch all the surface area you can, it will hold just fine. i have shattered ring and pinions, and twisted axle splines, and the 30 minute mig job i did has never failed. to answer your question: 1.welded, follwed by 2.lunchbox and/or minispool, then 3. spool and/or carrier lockers Last edited by tennessee rockhumper; 06-09-2006 at 08:23 PM.

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06-06-2006, 04:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
GM4Life Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67499 Location: Eatonville, Wa Posts: 13	so is anyone running a welded front on and off road?

06-06-2006, 08:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
tennessee rockhumper Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 52201 Location: fixing my junk so i can go break it Posts: 630	sure, as long as you have selectable hubs for the street.

06-07-2006, 03:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
GM4Life Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67499 Location: Eatonville, Wa Posts: 13	so whats the difficulty from worse to easiest between lunchbox locker, carrier locker, welded, spool, and mini spool?

06-07-2006, 06:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
sha_ba_do_bang Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 69347 Posts: 245	welding isn't just busting out the mig and pouring some wire into it, to be done the right way the carrier has to be preheated and then tig welded and then either wrappe in a blanket to cool slowly or buried in special sand or put into a special oven, not that easy, better off getting a spool so it can be undone later i'd say welding them properly is harder than setting up gears properly, but i have setup prolly 50 sets, nothing is really as cut and dry as it seems Brendan

06-07-2006, 08:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
GM4Life Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67499 Location: Eatonville, Wa Posts: 13	that blows. so if you dont let it cool slowly it gets really brittle kinda like when working with glass, huh?

06-09-2006, 09:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
sha_ba_do_bang Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 69347 Posts: 245	alright, whatever, it will look like a wad of shit and you just ruined your carrier and spiders, i would get a spool just to save the carrier in case you ever want to go back and you won't really have good luck mig welding it, it really needs to be tig welded with preheating, but nigger rig it if you want to Brendan