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Racing_joe66 · 07-24-2006, 09:02 PM

i have an subaru electric powersteering pump. i was wondering if someone could help me with what all the wires are for and how i can rig this unit up to work in my car.

i was thinking of putting a switch on it to turn it off and one when needed.

any info is great.

i am putting this on my circle track race car.

thanks

piratebuggy · 07-25-2006, 06:35 AM

Welcome to the forum. Wanted to point out that this is an off-road forum, and I doubt that very many ppl have info on a Subaru electric pwr. str. pump here. Good luck!

MuddyV8YJ · 07-25-2006, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racing_joe66

i have an subaru electric powersteering pump. i was wondering if someone could help me with what all the wires are for and how i can rig this unit up to work in my car.
thanks

thanks. i thnk you just solved my power steering problem.

Old Scout · 07-25-2006, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratebuggy

Welcome to the forum. Wanted to point out that this is an off-road forum, and I doubt that very many ppl have info on a Subaru electric pwr. str. pump here. Good luck!

Hey STFU

I know of a few of us running the subaru pump here. There are more than a few threads here!!!

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/archi.../t-300232.html
/forum/suzuki/300232-electric-power-steering.html
/forum/general-4x4-discussion/265099-subaru-ps-pump-problem.html
/forum/general-4x4-discussion/140192-subaru-ps-pump-what-ya-think.html
/forum/general-4x4-discussion/114152-subaru-electric-p-s-pump.html
/forum/general-4x4-discussion/128422-subaru-electric-power-steering-pump-info.html

piratebuggy · 07-25-2006, 01:45 PM

I stand corrected--3.5 years ago there was some discussions on it. I won't welcome ppl to the forum any more..............jeez

Mr.N · 07-25-2006, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Scout

Hey STFU

I know of a few of us running the subaru pump here. There are more than a few threads here!!!

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/archi.../t-300232.html
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=300232
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265099
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140192
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114152
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128422

Mr.N says thanks for the info: Old Scout!

Old Scout · 07-25-2006, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratebuggy

I stand corrected--3.5 years ago there was some discussions on it. I won't welcome ppl to the forum any more..............jeez

Yea there has been no good tech untill you showed up.

piratebuggy · 07-25-2006, 03:35 PM

haha--hey I was thinking about using a pony keg for a power steering reservoir, I'll post pics when I'm done.

Racing_joe66 · 07-25-2006, 05:49 PM

i am glad to be hear. i have done alot of off-roading back in the days. and i still do everyonce in awhile.

but i seen a post on this and it was very detailed about 3 years ago. and i have tried to contact that guy and he hasn't been on here for like 2 years.

any info i can get would be great.

thanks

Racing_joe66 · 07-25-2006, 05:57 PM

ok this is the guy i am trying to get ahold of. as he seems to know alot about these.

Bowett and then he went by PSPBrian. and now he must have changed it again. anyone know him??

thanks

Racing_joe66 · 07-25-2006, 07:55 PM

does anyone know how i can wire this up and so forth??

thanks

piratebuggy · 07-25-2006, 09:09 PM

Sounds like Old Scout had some experience with these-but it looks like it's been awhile since anyone posted about it. Just kidding about the keg thing-lol.

CPOM · 07-26-2006, 06:22 PM

He's on my local forum, pspbrian is his new screename, it looks like due to his profile he was on last month so you might try emailing him through the forum.

Racing_joe66 · 07-26-2006, 07:34 PM

it shows that he hasn't been on here for 1 year and a month as pspbrian.

anyway can someone help me with the wiring and so forth?? i was going to start hooking this thing up this weekend.

thanks

chrono4 · 07-26-2006, 10:29 PM

what does it have for wiring?

ChiScouter · 07-29-2006, 10:13 AM

Someone in the know correct me here, but the stock suburau setup had a bunch of sensors and im under the impression that the pump didn't run all the time, or at least run all the time at full rpm. I would be concerned about its durability over the long haul if you run it all the time.

Racing_joe66 · 07-29-2006, 09:24 PM

see a typical race last only 15-20 minutes. when theres a caution i intend to shut it off. the only time i will have it on is when needed when i am actually racing. so like at the beginning of the race i won't turn it on until i am coming on the back stretch to start the race.

can anyone help me with this?

thanks

piratebuggy · 07-30-2006, 10:10 AM

Realize it wouldn't be the easiest solution-but you don't seem to be getting much info here-so have you tried getting ahold of a wiring diagram for this car? Maybe Mitchell manual or Alldata would have enough of a wiring diagram to figure out which lead does what. I realize this may be a statement of the obvious, but thought I'd throw it out there.

Old Scout · 07-30-2006, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiScouter

Someone in the know correct me here, but the stock suburau setup had a bunch of sensors and im under the impression that the pump didn't run all the time, or at least run all the time at full rpm. I would be concerned about its durability over the long haul if you run it all the time.

Yes the subaru pump has a speed sensor that reduces the voltage to the pump at speeds over 40mph. But comeawn do you think the pump is not designed for city driving? Being stuck in traffic is very much a fact of life, and I'm sure Subaru engineers have not taken any short cuts on something like steering!

piratebuggy · 07-30-2006, 11:33 AM

I agree that it should be overbuilt to the point that 15-20 minutes of continuous useage (worst case scenerio) shouldn't be overloading it. Maybe you could use the reduced voltage to the motor input during parade and caution laps to reduce the loading on the pump. That is if you get some info on wiring it up....................

CP8071 · 07-30-2006, 12:01 PM

Some info but nothings specific to the subaru pump. Like others have said, the extra wires are part of a system to reduce pressure once the car is moving, full power would only be required at low speeds. You'll probably be fine running it for extended periods as long as it can be mounted in an area to stay cool enough. If the fluid gets too hot then you'll need a larger resevour or a cooler.

MR2 electric steering pump article
http://www.driveev.com/jeepev/convpgs/psteer.php

Canada company, pump kit
http://www.islandnet.com/~canev/Kits...eeringKit.html

Racing_joe66 · 07-30-2006, 02:53 PM

i had seen some earlier articles on here about this. and the one guy that seems to know alot doesn't seem to be on here anymore and i have emailed him with no response.

i have called a subaru dealer about this and they said to go to subarunet.com and i could get any info i needed. well that site requires a username and password and there is no place on there to register. i have looked and can't find anything for wiring on these.

i was going to mount this unit towards the back of the car. in the trunk area above my rearend. which is required to have the floor cut out so there will be plenty of air to cool it off.

anyhelp would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

piratebuggy · 07-30-2006, 03:55 PM

Try this site http://techinfo.subaru.com/html/index.jsp go to reference section-(it's free)it goes back to 1990 model year. I forgot what year pump yours was already sorry. You have to subscribe to the other site-it's approx. $35.00 for 72 hours access, for a username and password to work. This info is on the http://www.subaru.com/ website. Hope any of this helps.

Racing_joe66 · 07-30-2006, 08:57 PM

all i showed that it went back to 1993. i believe these were only for the 88-92 models.

thanks

piratebuggy · 07-31-2006, 04:03 AM

The website I was at clearly showed reference materials for 1990 model year. Didn't go any further than that.

07-24-2006, 09:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Racing_joe66 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 76693 Posts: 2	electric power steering pump!!!!!!!! i have an subaru electric powersteering pump. i was wondering if someone could help me with what all the wires are for and how i can rig this unit up to work in my car. i was thinking of putting a switch on it to turn it off and one when needed. any info is great. i am putting this on my circle track race car. thanks

07-25-2006, 06:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
piratebuggy Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 53597 Location: near St. Louis,MO Posts: 988	Welcome to the forum. Wanted to point out that this is an off-road forum, and I doubt that very many ppl have info on a Subaru electric pwr. str. pump here. Good luck! __________________ 78 Jeep CJ-5 304 ---setting off car alarms with extreme prejudice....... out cali style!!!!!!

07-25-2006, 01:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
piratebuggy Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 53597 Location: near St. Louis,MO Posts: 988	I stand corrected--3.5 years ago there was some discussions on it. I won't welcome ppl to the forum any more..............jeez __________________ 78 Jeep CJ-5 304 ---setting off car alarms with extreme prejudice....... out cali style!!!!!!

07-25-2006, 03:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
piratebuggy Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 53597 Location: near St. Louis,MO Posts: 988	haha--hey I was thinking about using a pony keg for a power steering reservoir, I'll post pics when I'm done. __________________ 78 Jeep CJ-5 304 ---setting off car alarms with extreme prejudice....... out cali style!!!!!!

07-25-2006, 09:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
piratebuggy Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 53597 Location: near St. Louis,MO Posts: 988	Sounds like Old Scout had some experience with these-but it looks like it's been awhile since anyone posted about it. Just kidding about the keg thing-lol. __________________ 78 Jeep CJ-5 304 ---setting off car alarms with extreme prejudice....... out cali style!!!!!!

07-25-2006, 05:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
Racing_joe66 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 76693 Posts: 2	i am glad to be hear. i have done alot of off-roading back in the days. and i still do everyonce in awhile. but i seen a post on this and it was very detailed about 3 years ago. and i have tried to contact that guy and he hasn't been on here for like 2 years. any info i can get would be great. thanks

07-25-2006, 05:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
Racing_joe66 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 76693 Posts: 2	ok this is the guy i am trying to get ahold of. as he seems to know alot about these. Bowett and then he went by PSPBrian. and now he must have changed it again. anyone know him?? thanks

07-25-2006, 07:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Racing_joe66 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 76693 Posts: 2	does anyone know how i can wire this up and so forth?? thanks

07-26-2006, 06:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
CPOM Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21000 Location: Boston Posts: 916	He's on my local forum, pspbrian is his new screename, it looks like due to his profile he was on last month so you might try emailing him through the forum. __________________ [COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]Chris 92 Isuzu Pup, 3800>r150f>dual toy cases toy 8", isuzu 12bolt, not done yet[/COLOR]

07-26-2006, 07:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
Racing_joe66 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 76693 Posts: 2	it shows that he hasn't been on here for 1 year and a month as pspbrian. anyway can someone help me with the wiring and so forth?? i was going to start hooking this thing up this weekend. thanks

07-26-2006, 10:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
chrono4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50245 Location: Elkhart Indiana Posts: 565	what does it have for wiring? __________________ I'm a web wheeler Working on a 79 f150...... lots to come

07-29-2006, 10:13 AM	#16 (permalink)
ChiScouter Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9835 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,078	Someone in the know correct me here, but the stock suburau setup had a bunch of sensors and im under the impression that the pump didn't run all the time, or at least run all the time at full rpm. I would be concerned about its durability over the long haul if you run it all the time.

07-29-2006, 09:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
Racing_joe66 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 76693 Posts: 2	see a typical race last only 15-20 minutes. when theres a caution i intend to shut it off. the only time i will have it on is when needed when i am actually racing. so like at the beginning of the race i won't turn it on until i am coming on the back stretch to start the race. can anyone help me with this? thanks

07-30-2006, 10:10 AM	#18 (permalink)
piratebuggy Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 53597 Location: near St. Louis,MO Posts: 988	Realize it wouldn't be the easiest solution-but you don't seem to be getting much info here-so have you tried getting ahold of a wiring diagram for this car? Maybe Mitchell manual or Alldata would have enough of a wiring diagram to figure out which lead does what. I realize this may be a statement of the obvious, but thought I'd throw it out there. __________________ 78 Jeep CJ-5 304 ---setting off car alarms with extreme prejudice....... out cali style!!!!!!

07-30-2006, 11:33 AM	#20 (permalink)
piratebuggy Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 53597 Location: near St. Louis,MO Posts: 988	I agree that it should be overbuilt to the point that 15-20 minutes of continuous useage (worst case scenerio) shouldn't be overloading it. Maybe you could use the reduced voltage to the motor input during parade and caution laps to reduce the loading on the pump. That is if you get some info on wiring it up.................... __________________ 78 Jeep CJ-5 304 ---setting off car alarms with extreme prejudice....... out cali style!!!!!!

07-30-2006, 12:01 PM	#21 (permalink)
CP8071 Wheeler Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12491 Location: North Georgia Posts: 213	Some info but nothings specific to the subaru pump. Like others have said, the extra wires are part of a system to reduce pressure once the car is moving, full power would only be required at low speeds. You'll probably be fine running it for extended periods as long as it can be mounted in an area to stay cool enough. If the fluid gets too hot then you'll need a larger resevour or a cooler. MR2 electric steering pump article http://www.driveev.com/jeepev/convpgs/psteer.php Canada company, pump kit http://www.islandnet.com/~canev/Kits...eeringKit.html

07-30-2006, 02:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
Racing_joe66 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 76693 Posts: 2	i had seen some earlier articles on here about this. and the one guy that seems to know alot doesn't seem to be on here anymore and i have emailed him with no response. i have called a subaru dealer about this and they said to go to subarunet.com and i could get any info i needed. well that site requires a username and password and there is no place on there to register. i have looked and can't find anything for wiring on these. i was going to mount this unit towards the back of the car. in the trunk area above my rearend. which is required to have the floor cut out so there will be plenty of air to cool it off. anyhelp would be greatly appreciated. thanks

07-30-2006, 03:55 PM	#23 (permalink)
piratebuggy Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 53597 Location: near St. Louis,MO Posts: 988	Try this site http://techinfo.subaru.com/html/index.jsp go to reference section-(it's free)it goes back to 1990 model year. I forgot what year pump yours was already sorry. You have to subscribe to the other site-it's approx. $35.00 for 72 hours access, for a username and password to work. This info is on the http://www.subaru.com/ website. Hope any of this helps. __________________ 78 Jeep CJ-5 304 ---setting off car alarms with extreme prejudice....... out cali style!!!!!! Last edited by piratebuggy; 07-30-2006 at 03:56 PM.

07-30-2006, 08:57 PM	#24 (permalink)
Racing_joe66 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 76693 Posts: 2	all i showed that it went back to 1993. i believe these were only for the 88-92 models. thanks

07-31-2006, 04:03 AM	#25 (permalink)
piratebuggy Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 53597 Location: near St. Louis,MO Posts: 988	The website I was at clearly showed reference materials for 1990 model year. Didn't go any further than that. __________________ 78 Jeep CJ-5 304 ---setting off car alarms with extreme prejudice....... out cali style!!!!!!

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