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Old 10-05-2006, 07:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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steering box ?'s

I recently lifted my cj5 and have not had time to finish it not sure what steering box I have was wondering what numbers I need to have so that I can get a drop pitman arm for it. any help would be appreciated.. or any good recomendations on what box to get for a powersteering upgrade
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Old 10-06-2006, 08:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You will have a Saginaw box if you have power steering.
I think the manual boxes were Saginaw also but I think the splines for the pitman arm are different between manual and power.
What ever offroad shop you are dealing with should have the correct part number for you.
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Back to the drawing board.
I noticed on your login name that your CJ is a 57.
You will probably have Ross steering.
The box is mounted to the frame just in front of the firewall.
Your best thing to do is swap that out for Saginaw power steering since youi lifted the cj.
There are plenty of the boxes out there that will work.
Make sure they mount to the inside of the frame and the pitman arm faces towards the rear of the car.
There are some CJ steering box mounts that you can use to adapt the box to your frame.
Need to get to work so I will get back to you.
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Old 10-07-2006, 08:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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http://bbs.off-road.com/ubbthreads/s...Number=1016322

This might help.
It is a Jeepster but same idea
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Old 10-08-2006, 12:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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they must have changed mine before I got it. the manual steering box is located up where that power steering box is. So I take it I have a saginaw box. so it would be pretty easy to convert it to powersteering then? I am not real knowledgeable about things like this. I am more motor and making things go straight for short periods of time.
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think the hardest part of converting to power steering would be finding the mount for the pump.
A 231 mount would work if you are running a v-6 but not sure what you could use for a 4 cylinder.
Converting to power steering is pretty easy after getting the mount figured out.
The box will bolt right in where the manual box is if they are both Saginaw boxs.
A 4 bolt saginaw steering box is better than a 3 bolt. both use the same mounting locations but the 4 bolt box has an extra bolt for strength.
Most all box mounts have the tabs to mount 4 bolt boxes.
Try to get the pump and box out of the same vehicle so that you can get the hoses with it. This will make the install easier. Searching for the correct hose can be a pain if you don't have a shop near you that can build them for you.
Most earlier camaros and firebirds come with quick steer boxes(2.5 to 3.0turns from lock to lock) that can be cool but it takes some time to get use to driving with them.
I have something comparable and it is kinda twitchy if you aren't careful
Good luck with the project and let us know how it turns out
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Old 10-08-2006, 02:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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thanks for the help it makes better sense to me now. I have a 283 in the jeep so getting a pump etc should be pretty simple. now it's just getting the time to finish it. Also have to figure out how to get the top on properly.
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