Dana 60 Balljoints - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Jaycar · 10-23-2006, 07:08 PM

I have done the search, read lots of threads for about an hour and am still confused and have questions. I can't find any dana 60's here in MO. Trust me the majority have all been bought up!
I can't afford to buy a $1000 D60 and pay to have it shipped from different places I've seen for sale. But I finally found a 92' Ford SW F350 with ofcourse a ball joint D60. I can get the front end and rear end for $800. I have read so many threads about poeple saying ball joints won't hold up on a serious trail rigg, then I find the same amount of poeple saying they've been running ball joints for a few years with 40's and no problems.

My question is should I buy the ball joint frontend and rear for $800, or wait another 2 years looking for a kingpin,(or save enough to order one)? I don't want any bullshit stories because one person is running one thing and running down another, just straight up answers please. My other qeustion is exactly how much weaker is a balljoint front end, if any? What are all the pros and cons to both? Another is I did see a couple of vendors making high steer for BJ's, do they hold up good? are they renforced strong enough? One thing I didn't find is does anyone make a 5 on 5.5 wheel conversion for the Bj's? or are they the same as a kingpin conv.? Btw I am running a 88 broncoII with a E.F.I 351, NP435,203/205, D44 front, 9" rear, with 5.13's and 38.5" boggers.

I already upgraded to Chromoly axles in the front and superjoints, but I have broken 5 stub shafts in 6 months, with a crawl ratio around 140:1 and the four speed there is no forgiveness on the axles. I don't think it would be quiet as bad with an automatic, but I am ready to upgrade to the 60. Going to the 60 I am planning on going to 42" TSL's. So what do you guys think?

78bronco460 · 10-23-2006, 07:31 PM

It's your money, but I'd hang onto it and keep looking. The balljoints aren't a showstopper in my mind, you've got a light rig and you're breaking stub shafts not balljoints.
The bad with the SD front is the unit bearings, metric bolt pattern, and goofy hubs.

Jaycar · 10-23-2006, 07:56 PM

Are the 92' models metric bolt patterns and unit bearings or is it the 99' and up superduty's? I thought the early 90's were still the standard bolt pattern and had regular hubs/rotors and lockouts(or auto hubs)?

78bronco460 · 10-23-2006, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaycar

Are the 92' models metric bolt patterns and unit bearings or is it the 99' and up superduty's? I thought the early 90's were still the standard bolt pattern and had regular hubs/rotors and lockouts(or auto hubs)?

Yes... I misread your post and thought it said 02.
I'd buy the 92 axles for sure. That's good parts there.

Jaycar · 10-23-2006, 08:07 PM

Do you know anything about the 5 on 5.5 conversion?

78bronco460 · 10-23-2006, 08:26 PM

Sorry I don't

Jaycar · 10-23-2006, 08:49 PM

Thats ok I found it in the vendors sec. ....excpensive... but what aint on a 60?

Jaycar · 10-24-2006, 04:38 PM

ttt

10-23-2006, 07:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jaycar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67315 Location: SE MO Posts: 289	Dana 60 Balljoints I have done the search, read lots of threads for about an hour and am still confused and have questions. I can't find any dana 60's here in MO. Trust me the majority have all been bought up! I can't afford to buy a $1000 D60 and pay to have it shipped from different places I've seen for sale. But I finally found a 92' Ford SW F350 with ofcourse a ball joint D60. I can get the front end and rear end for $800. I have read so many threads about poeple saying ball joints won't hold up on a serious trail rigg, then I find the same amount of poeple saying they've been running ball joints for a few years with 40's and no problems. My question is should I buy the ball joint frontend and rear for $800, or wait another 2 years looking for a kingpin,(or save enough to order one)? I don't want any bullshit stories because one person is running one thing and running down another, just straight up answers please. My other qeustion is exactly how much weaker is a balljoint front end, if any? What are all the pros and cons to both? Another is I did see a couple of vendors making high steer for BJ's, do they hold up good? are they renforced strong enough? One thing I didn't find is does anyone make a 5 on 5.5 wheel conversion for the Bj's? or are they the same as a kingpin conv.? Btw I am running a 88 broncoII with a E.F.I 351, NP435,203/205, D44 front, 9" rear, with 5.13's and 38.5" boggers. I already upgraded to Chromoly axles in the front and superjoints, but I have broken 5 stub shafts in 6 months, with a crawl ratio around 140:1 and the four speed there is no forgiveness on the axles. I don't think it would be quiet as bad with an automatic, but I am ready to upgrade to the 60. Going to the 60 I am planning on going to 42" TSL's. So what do you guys think? __________________ [U][/U][FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="5"]www.creepycrawlers4x4.com[/SIZE][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR="Red"][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

10-23-2006, 07:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
78bronco460 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9152 Location: Under A Rock Posts: 806	It's your money, but I'd hang onto it and keep looking. The balljoints aren't a showstopper in my mind, you've got a light rig and you're breaking stub shafts not balljoints. The bad with the SD front is the unit bearings, metric bolt pattern, and goofy hubs. __________________ Why kill them with kindness when you can use an axe?

10-23-2006, 07:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jaycar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67315 Location: SE MO Posts: 289	Are the 92' models metric bolt patterns and unit bearings or is it the 99' and up superduty's? I thought the early 90's were still the standard bolt pattern and had regular hubs/rotors and lockouts(or auto hubs)? __________________ [U][/U][FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="5"]www.creepycrawlers4x4.com[/SIZE][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR="Red"][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

10-23-2006, 08:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jaycar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67315 Location: SE MO Posts: 289	Do you know anything about the 5 on 5.5 conversion? __________________ [U][/U][FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="5"]www.creepycrawlers4x4.com[/SIZE][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR="Red"][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

10-23-2006, 08:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
78bronco460 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9152 Location: Under A Rock Posts: 806	Sorry I don't __________________ Why kill them with kindness when you can use an axe?

10-23-2006, 08:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jaycar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67315 Location: SE MO Posts: 289	Thats ok I found it in the vendors sec. ....excpensive... but what aint on a 60? __________________ [U][/U][FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="5"]www.creepycrawlers4x4.com[/SIZE][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR="Red"][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

10-24-2006, 04:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jaycar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67315 Location: SE MO Posts: 289	ttt __________________ [U][/U][FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="5"]www.creepycrawlers4x4.com[/SIZE][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR="Red"][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

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