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Old 02-12-2008, 08:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1995 Tahoe Rockcrawler.... maybe

I currently own a 2dr Tahoe and am looking to modify it to be a rock crawler/DD A) because I havnt seen it done ( maybe for a reason, I dont know) and B) because unless someone has a jeep cherokee or grand cherokee they would like to trade I am stuck with the Tahoe because the wife loves it. So basicaly I would like to know if anyone has some advice on where I should start with this project, any good resources to check out, or any good reasons as to why I shouldnt go this route. Muddin is cool but I just lost interest. I would rather go on a trail ride with some rocky terrain. any info is much appreciated.
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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hell it would probably be cheeper to buy a old crappy wrangler. im converting a shitbox s10 into one with a sold front axle and i passed up a good deal on a jeep for 1000 cause i didnt want to spend that much now i think im gonna be at about the same price if not over by the time im done
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Your in the position of "do I be different and cool in my own way" or "Do you follow the pack and be what cool is defined by them"

I say do it. It would be soo cool to see a different quality rig on the trails. To see a hardcore Rockcrawling Tahoa is definatly different.

I vote do it. But I for warn you, It will cost a pretty penny. Much more expensive vs. buying a solid axle rig.

My advice. Go Buy a Weld on SOA kit for your tahoe. Buy some one tons to swap under. Stay away from lift blocks for the rear. Go to the chevy forumn and start searchin, reading and researching.

Im starting a project because I was told It won't work and its cheaper to buy a bolt on Supercharger. I said F-that! Im building my own custom Turbocharged 4.0 inline 6 in my YJ. Why? Because I want to be different then your typicall bolt on person and its a challange.

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Old 02-13-2008, 06:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thing that sucks about the Tahoe is you can't get a locker or LSD for the front. Nobody makes one. And its a very weak housing made from aluminum. Stock they hang really low and below the crossmember. You can bash it up pretty easy.

With IFS you will have a lot of trouble in the rocks with no front locker. Locker compensates for lack of travel/articulation on IFS rigs. That's why I would not do it.

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Old 02-13-2008, 06:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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im with them i want to build a 97 4 door with tons an exo cage and 38s and i still want to be able to drive it to the trails, camping, etc etc. ORU has a solid axle swap kit you should look at.


why not be different we shouldn't all follow like cattle. mooooooooo!
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if you can fab making the SAS mounts are easy - the ORU is kinda spendy for my liking - but - for rock / dd use id go coils in the front - i think CAGE is making a bolt on kit - depending on the tire size you want, you may not need one tons -

if it were mine - ( id never own a chevy - but )


ford hp44 ( from a late 70s f250 - for 8 lug and bigger brakes )
cage arms in front - and coils ( say 4" 300 - 350 lbs per inch )
a gm 14 bolt rear with factory style lift springs ( good ones - like deaver or national spring )
and some 36 - 39 irocks ( i prefer toyo mts but they cost lots ) - detroit rear, a good LS up front - and some 5.13 gears


if you plan on beating the shit out of it - you could get a hp60 - but its overkill unless you plan on GETTIN it
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Woohoo

I think I'm going to go for it. It just took a little nudging from people who know what they are talking about instead of flaming me for being different. Thanks a lot. Any other advice you could give me would be great, like where I should start with the whole thing since axles probably will be a while. Thanks again and I look forward to updating you guys with the project.
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before you start cuttin and fabbin, its time you start getting your parts.

Axles(One tons I hope!)
Wheels
tires
All brackets for the swap
new rear suspension to match the front
You can do a front leaf spring set up to save some money or you can go a 3 link/panhard coilover

I hope you are good at fabbin and welding! Or you know someone you trust that can do it.

There is just soooo much to this project. I already said this, you better get over to the chevy forumn and start researching and reading and start asking questions.

I think someone here said ORU for weld on brackets to help save some time, but will cost a little more verses making your own stuff.

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Your in the position of "do I be different and cool in my own way" or "Do you follow the pack and be what cool is defined by them"

I say do it. It would be soo cool to see a different quality rig on the trails. To see a hardcore Rockcrawling Tahoa is definatly different.

I vote do it. But I for warn you, It will cost a pretty penny. Much more expensive vs. buying a solid axle rig.

My advice. Go Buy a Weld on SOA kit for your tahoe. Buy some one tons to swap under. Stay away from lift blocks for the rear. Go to the chevy forumn and start searchin, reading and researching.

Im starting a project because I was told It won't work and its cheaper to buy a bolt on Supercharger. I said F-that! Im building my own custom Turbocharged 4.0 inline 6 in my YJ. Why? Because I want to be different then your typicall bolt on person and its a challange.

Good luck
you realize a shit load of people have turboed jeeps right? and its never ever cheaper to buy a supercharger
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you realize a shit load of people have turboed jeeps right? and its never ever cheaper to buy a supercharger
For every turbo'd jeep there are about 10 with bolt on kits from companies.

And yes, supercharger kits are cheaper then a fully custom properly built turbo system. And Im doin my own system, every bolt on turbo system I found, I just did not like the specs. It seems like the manufacture does not do thier homework and its a crappy system.

Read this thread:
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post response to this post in that thread. Now back to THIS guy's thread
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i would use a d60 up front just for the strength and reliability. you might spend a little more for the axle but the piece of mind is worth it. plus the 60 will have kingpins not balljoints.(i hate ball joints, i always seem to seperate them)
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some 60 do have ball joints - as a matter of fact - there are no new kingpin axles since 92 ( and it was a dodge )

you can get a set of superduty axles for cheap - they have big disk brakes in the front and the rear - and as you would be getting wheels and tires at the same time the 8 on 170mm pattern wont matter -


the 10.5 rear is arguably stronger / as strong as a 14 bolt rear - most fronts are dana 60 - with big axle tubes ( 3.5" vs the older 3.125 " ) like it was said above to make it simple get a bolt on sas kit - but i would still go coils if it was me -

check on here for axles - and ebay - where are you located ?
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I'm in central FL. What would be a good ballpark price for new axles.. so I dont get screwed. I am on a budget get and my researching thus far is a bit discourging
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around 1200 for a front 60 and no more then 300 for a rear 14B. That is a set of axles in good condition and no damage.

What side is your t-case front out put? Driver, passenger? For the best cost, look for a set for sale north mid west USA and if you have a buddy or family in the area to help in pick up?

Got my front 60 in Virginia for 1050 and it was in perfect super shape

rear 14bolts are super cheap because GM pumped em out like they did the SBC 350. So many out there, so dirt cheap in cost.
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in florda it should be easy to find a set of superduty axles - as a lot of the bigger rigs have rockwells and 54s

i have seen a set of superduty axles go for less than 1500 - could be less - call around to a few of the BIG truck shops and see it they have any layn around
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Also, just going to throw this out. I am currently learning how to weld and I have no acces to other equipment to fab. I can do my own mechanical work other than that. I dont know anyone around here that does their own work. 90% of the kids I see mudding have mommy and daddy pay for their stuff and for shop labor. This is my first time doing anything as far as offroad mods. Basicaly I am THE newb. would it be easier if I started on some older Jeep peice of crap to mess with and not crush my DD. I will hang on to the Tahoe though because I do want to make it a rockcrawler. My head is going to explode from all the info I'm trying to absorb.
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If you're on a tight budget, picking up Jeep just for learning just to get rid of it down the road seems wrong. I'd say sink the money into a daily driver, and take the Tahoe off the road (if possible) while you learn and build. Even if the wife does kill you.
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this would be an ideal project if #1 you are a compitent fabricator with very good welding skills#2 you have a moderate understanding auto mechanics#3you have about 8-10k(thats being conservative)if your new to this,you might want to buy a slightly modified trail rig(if you shop around you can get a nice toyota or sammy thats trail ready fo about 4-5k and just test the waters b4 you destroy said tahoe that your wife loves so much..just my .02 cents

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HaHa "Budget", "Tahoe", "Rockcrawling", "Wife"..............Good Luck my friend
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97 tahoe w/ d60 and 14 bolt 400 turbo, w/ 241c 39.5 boggers still needs a couple things, but would need lots of trimming to crawl. i dont know how to put pics up here.

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