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Old 07-24-2008, 07:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Noob first build:78 K20-6"

Ordered a 6" rough country lift kit and it came today. There is a piece that got lost in transport. I don't know what it's called. On the rear leaf springs, there is a small bracket that helps hold the leafs in place. Well it's supposed to have a bolt with a sleeve over it. The sleeve is missing along with the nut. What exactly is this piece called???

Also, In order to remove the factory rear springs, I had to sawzall the bolts that hold the rear springs. Can I just go to the hardware store and pick up some grade 8 bolts to replace these? Is there a stronger/safer route? The lift kit didn't supply new bolts, and the old ones were stubborn.
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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yeah you can find them bolts at home depot or whatever, just make sure you get grade 8 bolts.

as far as the sleave, not sure of the proper name but if you have a spring shop around you they should sell those and the bolts
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I call it a keeper bracket and any spring supply should sell them
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I picked up some grade 8 bolts from the local "Ma and Pa's" hardware store. As far as the spring supply shop, well, there ain't nothing like that out here in the sticks... I called up Rough Country and they are shipping it out. Thanks for the help. I'm sure I'll have more questions, as I am installing my first lift in my driveway with only manual hand tools... No air, no talent, no patience, but plenty of beer and cussing. Should be entertaining for my neighbors! Thanks again.
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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just don't let your insurance company know....
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
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just don't let your insurance company know....
Why? It's not a D.D. or anything, I got hobbist plates and this truck is strictly for playing in the mud. Hell, I don't even drive it in the winter! (living in the "salt-belt", these roads will EAT a truck in 6 months!) Maybe cruise over to my inlaws across town (1.2miles away), or to the gas station. What does it matter about my insurance company? Besides, my insurance agent knows me and my interest. I always spent 30-45 minutes talking hunting and truck with him whenever I talk to him. He's good people. I believe he'd look the other way, should the situation ever arise. Like I said, he's good people.

Another question of my build. On my rear yoke, I got a busted bolt in one of the four. (I didn't do it, I had the gears swapped...) I tried to soak it in PB Blaster, and drill it out and use an "easy out" to back it out. Well, my luck would have it, the easy out busted off inside there. Now, how the hell do I get that out. Drilling it didn't seem to work, as I believe the easy out was hardened and is chewing up my drill bits. Any ideas?

Another question: Now maybe I got ahead of myself, but I tore the SFA out of my K20, springs attached. I never thought about the steering. Now, when I bolt up my Dana 60, what do I have to know about keeping the steering correct. What I mean is, I didn't have the steering wheel straight, I had it turned almost full chock and now I worry this will effect my steering after the bolt up. Maybe I'm thinking too hard, or not enough, but I humbly bow down to the PBB and await for knowledge.

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Old 08-07-2008, 06:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Got some issues with my lift project... Got the rear done, just gotta do brakes... As for the front, 1. my shocks are touching my front leaf springs!!! I don't know much, but think that ain't right! It's a Dodge D60, but was in a 70's K10 previously. 2. My stock sway bar? doesn't line up with the bracket on the D60. Do I need the sway bar for wheeling? Little info, but I'll post pictures tomorrow after work. BTW, '78 K20 sm465, np205, 14ff, d60, 33"s, sb350. Thanks for any help.
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Most people don't run sway bars on the trail. They typically limit travel and I just took mine off all together.
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Most people don't run sway bars on the trail. They typically limit travel and I just took mine off all together.
Good to know! Thanks!


However, I don't have a trailer nor a tow vehicle... So this truck (should I EVER get it up and moving...) will have to be driven on the pavement to the mudholes. I know nothing of these sway bars you speak of. How f'ed up would the ride be on the sticky stuff? Nothing over 50 mph, mind you. All back roads... and no f-ing around on street(donuts, burn-outs, whatnot...)
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On the street, just be careful and avoid abrupt manuvers. Easy on the braking and turning, long sweeping turns, and passing. If ou take it easy and know that it will be sloppy, you will be fine getting to and from your favorite wheeling spot.
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just don't let your insurance company know....
hey, technicaly my suspension is "stock"









well its stock rears up front,
stock tierod for a drag link,
stck 2wd box,
i got 4 stck shackles in the rear,


but she asked if it had "altered" suspension, i just bit a hole in my lip and gave her a no,
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Old 08-09-2008, 01:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Good to know! Thanks!


However, I don't have a trailer nor a tow vehicle... So this truck (should I EVER get it up and moving...) will have to be driven on the pavement to the mudholes. I know nothing of these sway bars you speak of. How f'ed up would the ride be on the sticky stuff? Nothing over 50 mph, mind you. All back roads... and no f-ing around on street(donuts, burn-outs, whatnot...)
No worries as long as you drive like a sane person! I have a 6" lift on 38" Bias ply TSL's and haven't had any problems while going 70 down the freeway. Just avoid large potholes at high speeds. Just remember the softer your suspension with added height the more your truck is going to want to lean around corners and sway. Otherwise just drive it like you would any other lifted truck, brake early and don't get in a hurry.

Ohh and I myself wouldn't worry about the handling characteristics until you get larger tires with more sidewall because then you have to worry about your sidewall rolling on you.

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Old 08-10-2008, 07:42 PM   #14 (permalink)
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all good info! As stated, this IS my first build and close to my first time driving a lifted truck... thanks for all the tips. I'm thinking I'm gonna have to find a welder wielding buddy to weld my shock mounts out farther to keep the front springs from rubbbing. Hopefully, I can get some pictures up tomorrow, so you's can all see my mistakes
Again, thanks.
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My springs are stiff enough to avoid the need for a sway bar. Fuck em, they just get in the way anyhow.
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I removed the swap bar. Excess weight. simplier. thanks.
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Old 05-08-2009, 02:32 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Finished the lift kit. Had to cut the shock mounts off the Dodge 60, and have a guy weld on some GM ones. Swapped the 6" springs for a set of 8" that I picked up for just over $300! Now we got a wheeler for my wife and I put my 6" spring under her truck. I gave her my little tires (285/75/16 load range E! Trxus MT radials) and I stole the 38.5 TSL's off her truck!
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