$320 fuel pump for '00 Silverado 1500 ? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

JF · 09-18-2009, 03:42 PM

Is there any way to get just the pump rather than the whole assembly? Delphi is $320 and Airtex is $276 ... I searched but there are alot of fuel pump threads.

I was told a '96 1500 5.7 pump would swap in but I compared today and the plug is different and there's no pig tail with the new pump.

Somebody has to know away around this $320 fuel pump bs

Thanks

Derekdcrss88 · 09-18-2009, 07:47 PM

check spectra fuel pumps,they might have one.

mudskipper4x4 · 09-18-2009, 08:08 PM

^^^Didn't you get banned?

Derekdcrss88 · 09-18-2009, 08:28 PM

Who??

JF · 09-18-2009, 10:06 PM

Found a Spectra with sender for $156 ... never heard of Spectra though, good rep?

the_experience3006 · 09-18-2009, 10:11 PM

The unit is $320 because it is a fuel pump module, not just a pump, and no, they are not replaceable separately. Yeah, it sucks a little, but it could be worse. Many newer cars are running a returnless fuel system with the fuel filter built into the pump. Get some bad gas and plug up your filter? You're buying a whole pump.

Don't waste your time with anything but an AC Delco pump from the dealership...unless, of course, you enjoy replacing them every 50,000 miles.

JF · 09-18-2009, 11:34 PM

From what I have found so far the dealer units are Delphi and it is possible to get just the pump as seen here http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-A...=p4506.c0.m245

But the same part # gets you an entire unit at the parts store ....

PAToyota · 09-19-2009, 06:52 AM

Possibly a bit cheaper here: RockAuto

Hard for me to tell which one you'd be looking for - there are two AC Delco and two Delphi ones listed for different prices, but all under $300.

Derekdcrss88 · 09-19-2009, 09:19 AM

spectra's warranty lists that if it is put in at a lagit shop and it goes out within 18 months they will give you a new pump and pay for labor,so you put it in and get you buddy who works at a shop to write you a recept for around 450$ thats what it will cost in most cases,couse they will want a recept for the job and maybe even call the shop,win win.

Backncardr · 09-19-2009, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_experience3006

Don't waste your time with anything but an AC Delco pump from the dealership...unless, of course, you enjoy replacing them every 50,000 miles.

Been my experience over the years=OEM Delco (Delphi) pumps last longer than any aftermarket pump, whiney customers have brought me to install. For some reason customers bring their heeps in usually with a quarter tank or less of gas. With the high prince of gas I guess people run the tanks nearer the empty mark than full. Makes it Hell on the pump. I have seen aftermarket pumps fail within 6 months. Won't install them anymore.

Derekdcrss88 · 09-19-2009, 02:27 PM

everyone i know swairs by delphi,I would rather have delphi but i'm laid off and money is kinda tight,so istead of 280$ I spent 160$

JF · 09-20-2009, 11:28 AM

Alright, so I ordered an AC Delco pump off ebay ~$70 . Part# MU1089 gets you an entire assembley from the parts places but can be found as a pump only on ebay. I'll report back with how it goes.

Also I found the Delphi unit at Carquest for $280 vs $320 at Oreilly's ... for anybody wanting to go that route.

JF · 10-07-2009, 10:14 AM

Alright, so its in and seems to have solved my hard starting issues. Has a different part # on the box along with a GM # . Checked ACD.com and the GM site as well as local parts stores. All say the same thing, nonexistant part.

R290 · 10-07-2009, 01:39 PM

I just plunked down the 3 bills at carquest for an OEM unit. Found one on e-bay, but with shipping and no warranty, worth the extra $20, but with tax it was closer to $50.

Saved the old unit as it just needs a new pump. I will open it up and see if just the pump can be found. Was not that bad to drop the tank and replace. Took a few hours as I had no clue what I need to do. But I pulled the driveline so I could get my head up there to see the fuel connections.
This was on a Burb, vs pickup. Pulling the bed might be fine if you have a gantry crane. Couple jackstands, floor jack and 2x6 worked just fine.

Get the Safety Siphon. It drained all but about a 1/2 gallon on a 32 gallon tank.

They about $10 and worth it.

YouTube - safety siphon 0001
Don't forget your 100 mile AAA tow, as mine left me stranded 60 miles from home.

JF · 10-07-2009, 05:28 PM

Update: My hard starting issue persists. When I originally checked the fuel pressure (old pump) it climbed and held fine but bled off really fast after shut down. I am going to check it again (new pump) and see if I can find a leaking injector.

Glad I didn't drop $300+

As for the pump it was titled AC Delco fuel pump repair kit. The vendor has 100% feed back.

R290 · 10-07-2009, 06:16 PM

I have 50 psi after installing the new pump. I noticed that the fuel seem to bled down too, but once I got it start and stay running it seemed to hold fine. Suspect the fuel rail had air in it. So now it holds the 50 psi for a while. I can test that feature if you like, since mine was running an working fine I disconnected the gauge ( harbor freight $10) It did take several attempts to keep it running. It would start right up, but then die, and it did that about 6-8 times before I just rev'ed it up and it stayed running. Could have been that the air intake hose was off too? As I put it back on.

Pour 1/2 cup of gas into the air intake and see if it starts, then you know its fuel related for sure. Thats how I figured out my issue. Got a few looks putting gas into a water bottle

at the gas station, but it's all I had. You can swap the relay with another too.

do you hear the pump whine?

JF · 10-07-2009, 07:21 PM

I haven't checked the pressure with the new pump yet but I am sure its fine. Apparently the pump wasn't the reason it was losing pressure after being shut off, and therefore not primed enough to start on the first try. $70 of preventative maintenance I guess.

I suspect I have a weeping injector. Once started it runs fine. I have driven it a few times since putting the new pump in.

Doesn't start first try, second try usually starts after a few cranks. Not acceptable. Used to start first time, first crank. So frustrating.

R290 · 10-07-2009, 09:51 PM

Just press the schrader valve and it gas come out fast you have pressure.

You could wait 3-5 seconds for the pump to pressurize the system before starting to see if its a leaky injector/s If that was the case your oil would smell from gas. My pump runs 2 seconds after you turn the key off. I figured this out while testing for voltage at the pump. But I have an 01

To fix the leaky injector run some Valvoline complete fuel system cleaner. The 6,000 mile stuff. Over the years I tried most everything out there and this stuff works.

JF · 10-09-2009, 10:08 AM

They didn't have any of the valvoline at wally world last night so I dumped a can of seafoam in with about 3/4 of a tank. I am gonna do some wot beating on my truck today and see if I can dislodge what ever may be holding an injector open. I am gonna hook the fuel pressure guage up again too.

This is the pump I went with (though I didn't need it)

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R290 · 10-10-2009, 09:18 PM

cool thanks for the pic's of the kit.

JF · 10-11-2009, 08:11 PM

So I swapped the rails and injectors with fpr from another 5.3 I have and it still doesn't start first try. Key on it primes to ~55psi but it still bleeds off. It takes a little longer to bleed off now that I swapped injectors ... about 6min vs 1min before.

Genesis shows no misfires on any cylinders. Runs fine, idles fine.

09-18-2009, 03:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
JF NOCTURNAL Join Date: Apr 2009 Member # 133890 Posts: 842	$320 fuel pump for '00 Silverado 1500 ? Is there any way to get just the pump rather than the whole assembly? Delphi is $320 and Airtex is $276 ... I searched but there are alot of fuel pump threads. I was told a '96 1500 5.7 pump would swap in but I compared today and the plug is different and there's no pig tail with the new pump. Somebody has to know away around this $320 fuel pump bs Thanks

09-18-2009, 08:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
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09-18-2009, 10:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
the_experience3006 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 80052 Location: St. James, MN Posts: 1,701	The unit is $320 because it is a fuel pump module, not just a pump, and no, they are not replaceable separately. Yeah, it sucks a little, but it could be worse. Many newer cars are running a returnless fuel system with the fuel filter built into the pump. Get some bad gas and plug up your filter? You're buying a whole pump. Don't waste your time with anything but an AC Delco pump from the dealership...unless, of course, you enjoy replacing them every 50,000 miles. __________________ [QUOTE=abig84;9192789]i swear id be gay if it wasn't for all the gay sex that's involved[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=TexasBlake;10305687]She's not that hot. I was just looking for a quick lay and she all wanted to like go on dates and shit. [/QUOTE]

09-19-2009, 06:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
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10-07-2009, 01:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
R290 AF6 OD Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46467 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,640	I just plunked down the 3 bills at carquest for an OEM unit. Found one on e-bay, but with shipping and no warranty, worth the extra $20, but with tax it was closer to $50. Saved the old unit as it just needs a new pump. I will open it up and see if just the pump can be found. Was not that bad to drop the tank and replace. Took a few hours as I had no clue what I need to do. But I pulled the driveline so I could get my head up there to see the fuel connections. This was on a Burb, vs pickup. Pulling the bed might be fine if you have a gantry crane. Couple jackstands, floor jack and 2x6 worked just fine. Get the Safety Siphon. It drained all but about a 1/2 gallon on a 32 gallon tank. They about $10 and worth it. YouTube - safety siphon 0001 Don't forget your 100 mile AAA tow, as mine left me stranded 60 miles from home. __________________ 73 IH Scout Last edited by R290; 10-07-2009 at 06:05 PM.

09-18-2009, 07:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
Derekdcrss88 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142546 Posts: 0	check spectra fuel pumps,they might have one.

09-18-2009, 08:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
Derekdcrss88 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142546 Posts: 0	Who??

09-18-2009, 10:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
JF NOCTURNAL Join Date: Apr 2009 Member # 133890 Posts: 842	Found a Spectra with sender for $156 ... never heard of Spectra though, good rep?

09-18-2009, 11:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
JF NOCTURNAL Join Date: Apr 2009 Member # 133890 Posts: 842	From what I have found so far the dealer units are Delphi and it is possible to get just the pump as seen here http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-A...=p4506.c0.m245 But the same part # gets you an entire unit at the parts store ....

09-19-2009, 09:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Derekdcrss88 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142546 Posts: 0	spectra's warranty lists that if it is put in at a lagit shop and it goes out within 18 months they will give you a new pump and pay for labor,so you put it in and get you buddy who works at a shop to write you a recept for around 450$ thats what it will cost in most cases,couse they will want a recept for the job and maybe even call the shop,win win.

09-19-2009, 02:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Derekdcrss88 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142546 Posts: 0	everyone i know swairs by delphi,I would rather have delphi but i'm laid off and money is kinda tight,so istead of 280$ I spent 160$

09-20-2009, 11:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
JF NOCTURNAL Join Date: Apr 2009 Member # 133890 Posts: 842	Alright, so I ordered an AC Delco pump off ebay ~$70 . Part# MU1089 gets you an entire assembley from the parts places but can be found as a pump only on ebay. I'll report back with how it goes. Also I found the Delphi unit at Carquest for $280 vs $320 at Oreilly's ... for anybody wanting to go that route.

10-07-2009, 10:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
JF NOCTURNAL Join Date: Apr 2009 Member # 133890 Posts: 842	Alright, so its in and seems to have solved my hard starting issues. Has a different part # on the box along with a GM # . Checked ACD.com and the GM site as well as local parts stores. All say the same thing, nonexistant part.

10-07-2009, 05:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
JF NOCTURNAL Join Date: Apr 2009 Member # 133890 Posts: 842	Update: My hard starting issue persists. When I originally checked the fuel pressure (old pump) it climbed and held fine but bled off really fast after shut down. I am going to check it again (new pump) and see if I can find a leaking injector. Glad I didn't drop $300+ As for the pump it was titled AC Delco fuel pump repair kit. The vendor has 100% feed back.

10-07-2009, 06:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
R290 AF6 OD Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46467 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,640	I have 50 psi after installing the new pump. I noticed that the fuel seem to bled down too, but once I got it start and stay running it seemed to hold fine. Suspect the fuel rail had air in it. So now it holds the 50 psi for a while. I can test that feature if you like, since mine was running an working fine I disconnected the gauge ( harbor freight $10) It did take several attempts to keep it running. It would start right up, but then die, and it did that about 6-8 times before I just rev'ed it up and it stayed running. Could have been that the air intake hose was off too? As I put it back on. Pour 1/2 cup of gas into the air intake and see if it starts, then you know its fuel related for sure. Thats how I figured out my issue. Got a few looks putting gas into a water bottle at the gas station, but it's all I had. You can swap the relay with another too. do you hear the pump whine? __________________ 73 IH Scout

10-07-2009, 07:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
JF NOCTURNAL Join Date: Apr 2009 Member # 133890 Posts: 842	I haven't checked the pressure with the new pump yet but I am sure its fine. Apparently the pump wasn't the reason it was losing pressure after being shut off, and therefore not primed enough to start on the first try. $70 of preventative maintenance I guess. I suspect I have a weeping injector. Once started it runs fine. I have driven it a few times since putting the new pump in. Doesn't start first try, second try usually starts after a few cranks. Not acceptable. Used to start first time, first crank. So frustrating.

10-07-2009, 09:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
R290 AF6 OD Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46467 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,640	Just press the schrader valve and it gas come out fast you have pressure. You could wait 3-5 seconds for the pump to pressurize the system before starting to see if its a leaky injector/s If that was the case your oil would smell from gas. My pump runs 2 seconds after you turn the key off. I figured this out while testing for voltage at the pump. But I have an 01 To fix the leaky injector run some Valvoline complete fuel system cleaner. The 6,000 mile stuff. Over the years I tried most everything out there and this stuff works. __________________ 73 IH Scout Last edited by R290; 10-07-2009 at 09:55 PM.

10-09-2009, 10:08 AM	#19 (permalink)
JF NOCTURNAL Join Date: Apr 2009 Member # 133890 Posts: 842	They didn't have any of the valvoline at wally world last night so I dumped a can of seafoam in with about 3/4 of a tank. I am gonna do some wot beating on my truck today and see if I can dislodge what ever may be holding an injector open. I am gonna hook the fuel pressure guage up again too. This is the pump I went with (though I didn't need it).

10-10-2009, 09:18 PM	#20 (permalink)
R290 AF6 OD Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46467 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,640	cool thanks for the pic's of the kit. __________________ 73 IH Scout

10-11-2009, 08:11 PM	#21 (permalink)
JF NOCTURNAL Join Date: Apr 2009 Member # 133890 Posts: 842	So I swapped the rails and injectors with fpr from another 5.3 I have and it still doesn't start first try. Key on it primes to ~55psi but it still bleeds off. It takes a little longer to bleed off now that I swapped injectors ... about 6min vs 1min before. Genesis shows no misfires on any cylinders. Runs fine, idles fine.

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