Toyotas vs d44's for 37's on a 3500lb rig. - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

dboy · 06-23-2010, 12:23 PM

My dads building a rig and needs some input on axles.

Buggy will be tube frame with 4 link (possible 3 link in front) 104-108 Wb and no bigger than 37" tires. Plan on running a 4.3l (400lb) turbo400 or 350 (200lb) and a 203/205 doubler (240lb)

We dont want to run full widths because this buggy will be small, narrow and light so were wondering weither dana 44's (scout2/wagoneer width) or toyota axles would suit the rig better? With either choice we will be running chromo shafts and joints. Seems like a waste to link a 44, kindof putting lipstick on a pig, but we need to be narrow and stay on a budget.

So can chromo 44's or toyota's hold up to 37's, 250hp and 3500lbs?

Thanks

TheRiddler · 06-23-2010, 01:15 PM

I vote chromo 44's with cryo'd ring & pinion, should be pretty strong. The d44 has a bigger ring gear than a toyota axle does, too.

jhama78 · 06-23-2010, 01:24 PM

you are gonna have as many people say toy axles as ya are D44s, Run whatever ya can get your hands on... Id personally go with built toy axles but thats just my opinion...

Kyron · 06-23-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jhama78

you are gonna have as many people say toy axles as ya are D44s, Run whatever ya can get your hands on... Id personally go with built toy axles but thats just my opinion...

X2

the 44 will turn sharper though......

Longs are going to be stronger than any 44 upgrade though......

60s and 14

dboy · 06-23-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyron

60s and 14

I know, but the budget wont allow that. Also here in oregon/washington/northern cal area we have a TON of really tight trails that make it really hard on full sized rigs.

Thanks for the input guys!

95rokrunner · 06-23-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jhama78

you are gonna have as many people say toy axles as ya are D44s, Run whatever ya can get your hands on... Id personally go with built toy axles but thats just my opinion...

x3

1990GT50 · 06-23-2010, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhama78

you are gonna have as many people say toy axles as ya are D44s, Run whatever ya can get your hands on... Id personally go with built toy axles but thats just my opinion...

x infinity

toyota stuff is way cooler anyways, leave the dana axles for those jeepers

pic_jon · 06-23-2010, 07:01 PM

I say go toyota.. But maybe that's because I work on them??

To make things interesting.. Go half and half!! Yota front with an Elocker, longs and links. jeep rear end?

Honestly.. Just buy whatever you come across that's not torn to shit

three60fish · 06-23-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pic_jon

I say go toyota.. But maybe that's because I work on them??

To make things interesting.. Go half and half!! Yota front with an Elocker, longs and links. jeep rear end?

Honestly.. Just buy whatever you come across that's not torn to shit

I actually really like this half and half idea.....I'm not sure if it would make anything really difficult with parts sizing (bolt pattern, u joints,

), but sounds like a cool compromise to me. Then if you find you like one or the other better, you could always swap out the other to make them match down the road.

JesseA · 06-23-2010, 07:56 PM

What do most of the guys you wheel with run?

sucks to be busted, out of hubs and nobody has any because they dont run what you have ect.

06-23-2010, 12:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
dboy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 52376 Location: Mcminnville Oregon Posts: 1,133	Toyotas vs d44's for 37's on a 3500lb rig. My dads building a rig and needs some input on axles. Buggy will be tube frame with 4 link (possible 3 link in front) 104-108 Wb and no bigger than 37" tires. Plan on running a 4.3l (400lb) turbo400 or 350 (200lb) and a 203/205 doubler (240lb) We dont want to run full widths because this buggy will be small, narrow and light so were wondering weither dana 44's (scout2/wagoneer width) or toyota axles would suit the rig better? With either choice we will be running chromo shafts and joints. Seems like a waste to link a 44, kindof putting lipstick on a pig, but we need to be narrow and stay on a budget. So can chromo 44's or toyota's hold up to 37's, 250hp and 3500lbs? Thanks

06-23-2010, 01:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
TheRiddler Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Member # 156230 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 324	I vote chromo 44's with cryo'd ring & pinion, should be pretty strong. The d44 has a bigger ring gear than a toyota axle does, too. __________________ '92 YJ, 4.6 stroker, dana 300 w/4:1, 60's, 5.38's, detroits, 101", 40" MT/R's, KMC Beadlocks

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jhama78 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3377 Location: Eastern Shore, Va Posts: 3,892	you are gonna have as many people say toy axles as ya are D44s, Run whatever ya can get your hands on... Id personally go with built toy axles but thats just my opinion... __________________ -j-rOd [COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="3"][B][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654042"]85 Roach Build Thread[/URL] [/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="Silver"][B] 84 Toy Farm Beater 85 Toy Trail Roach 223:1 85 Toy SR5 xcab DD 88 4Runner Fambly Beach Ride 07 Dodge 2500 4x4 Quad Cab, 5.9 CTD[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR="Lime"][SIZE="4"][FONT="Arial"]Nobody ever lays on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at work...[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

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JesseA Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27526 Location: Maine Posts: 753	What do most of the guys you wheel with run? sucks to be busted, out of hubs and nobody has any because they dont run what you have ect. __________________ nothing but a bunch of pipe and cast off parts.

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06-23-2010, 07:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
pic_jon $5 Fine For Whinin' Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142381 Location: Houston, Texas Area Posts: 856	I say go toyota.. But maybe that's because I work on them?? To make things interesting.. Go half and half!! Yota front with an Elocker, longs and links. jeep rear end? Honestly.. Just buy whatever you come across that's not torn to shit