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12-16-2014 11:33 PM
Militaryman4455
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Originally Posted by FbOmRxD View Post
Just finished putting this together. My 99 was rusting apart, this was a clean nearly rust free (minus rear fenders) 2002 Lariat. Swamped my drivetrain from the 99 into the 2002. Still a few more things to wrap up but super excited with the way it turned out

That's a good looking truck man!
12-16-2014 05:51 AM
FbOmRxD Just finished putting this together. My 99 was rusting apart, this was a clean nearly rust free (minus rear fenders) 2002 Lariat. Swamped my drivetrain from the 99 into the 2002. Still a few more things to wrap up but super excited with the way it turned out

12-15-2014 04:44 AM
MR4WD My 2015 f450:

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12-15-2014 02:17 AM
Militaryman4455
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Originally Posted by D45 View Post
Nice truck!!! Suspension and tire info?
It's the dealer's 6" lift. It's just spacers in the rear and full springs in the front with longer shocks and caster bolts, bump stops etc. Tires are 37" Toyo MT's. I would have went a different way if I lifted it myself but I wanted it all covered under warranty so I went with what the dealer offered.
12-13-2014 06:36 PM
PhntmSk8r Have a couple.

My 07 5.9 6spd 2wd, rebuilt motor .020 over, all new cummins internals/parts, ARP head studs, Exergy 45% over, airdog2 165, banks monster ram intake/IC pipe, 5" turbo back with muffler, pac exhaust brake, rebuilt trans, SB dual friction twin disc. Tow package with 4:10's, will be tuned on EFI live soon. Also serves as my daily grocery getter.





And my 01, only has 130k miles on it, garage queen/weekend truck. Nv4500, full firestone onboard air kit with independent in cab bag control, Edge EZ chip, camper stabilizers, super hitch, upgraded VP44, DDP100 hp injectors, fass titanium 160, 2" leveling kit on 35" kevlars.

12-13-2014 06:08 PM
D45
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Originally Posted by Militaryman4455:29223578
Well, I don't have a trail rig to tow now. I traded it in on this.

'14 Ram 2500 6.7l Cummins Tradesman.

I can't believe how nice this base model truck is.

Nice truck!!! Suspension and tire info?
12-13-2014 05:58 PM
Militaryman4455 Well, I don't have a trail rig to tow now. I traded it in on this.

'14 Ram 2500 6.7l Cummins Tradesman.

I can't believe how nice this base model truck is.



Now I have to find a beater for the woods.
12-13-2014 05:36 PM
dieselboy740 94' idi turbo, wg shut, pump maxed, 3" dp into 4". Crew cab dually, roll along package. It pulls harder than my '97 powerstroke.
12-13-2014 09:20 AM
gots_a_sol Converted to 2005+ front end on the Ex and threw some Duratracs on it in addition to removing the side steps/body molding. Much less soccermom now.

12-12-2014 10:13 PM
WA-HCRC [IMG][/IMG]

Got some new tires / old wheels. :
12-07-2014 10:20 PM
97XJ4.0 06 Dodge Ram Mega Cab, Cummins, Exergy 60% injectors, Fass 150, ED 66/74 turbo. FirePunk trans with billet shafts, DPC triple disk converter. Air bags in the back, BDS long arm 6" lift, 20x12 Fuels with 35x12.50s. EFI live tuning to NOT smoke like a diesel ricer.
12-03-2014 08:38 PM
jopickens
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Originally Posted by downs807 View Post
watched it hand calulated. but you know because you were there and witnessed it.
Here's some simple reading: How will towing affect my gas mileage? - HowStuffWorks
I'm out - I apologize for even bringing up a non-debatable rebuttal.
Josh
12-03-2014 03:10 PM
TrailTamer XJ
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Originally Posted by downs807 View Post
I agree with both post. Had a friend that towed with a Dodge 2500 with the V10 and got 10mpg loaded or unloaded.
I've read tons of Ford V10 threads where guys claimed they barely drop in mpg empty vs towing. So I believe you.

On your PSD, what I've read that PSDs seem don't get as good mpg as cummins and duramaxs. My '97 12v cummins can pull 20+ mpg hwy but will tanks when towing, as much as 50% vs empty. I can't fathom a big gasser that have 10 mpg empty and will go to 5 mpg towing at a 50% loss. At 5 mpg who the fuck will use it (maybe if it's a RV), too expensive and will need a huge fuel tank to have a reasonable range.

Awhile ago I read briefly where this guy made a viable claim that the greater mpg drop, the greater it's efficient is. If mpg don't drop much, means that engine is very inefficient to start with because it's hogging fuel at low load but don't use significant more fuel when it see high load.

Although majority of diesels have turbos so they have the ability to burn significant more fuel than a N/A engine for the given displacement.
12-03-2014 01:56 PM
downs807
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Originally Posted by jopickens View Post
^u'r friend lied to you... takes more energy to move more mass - period (with all other things constant of course).
watched it hand calulated. but you know because you were there and witnessed it.
12-03-2014 01:49 PM
ramv Likely when you see those really close figures, its because the type of mileage is different. IE, I have got 16 mpg with my 8.1 Avalanche. But it's a very precise trip (slow speeds, smooth highways, not many stops). Towing that same trip I get 9-10. If I only drive around town, I get about 10-11 empty. Most of my road miles are towing on slow roads (except going to Moab), so I could easily say "I get the same." but realistically it's not the case. I would guess about 40% worse mileage towing 12,000 lb with a tall rig on the trailer catching wind.

With the 6.0 PSD DRW it got around 12-13 empty and 9-10 towing 12-16k lb so it was actually only 20-25% worse.
12-03-2014 01:41 PM
jopickens ^u'r friend lied to you... takes more energy to move more mass - period (with all other things constant of course).
12-03-2014 11:50 AM
downs807 I agree with both post. Had a friend that towed with a Dodge 2500 with the V10 and got 10mpg loaded or unloaded.
12-03-2014 11:23 AM
Tommy R
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Originally Posted by TrailTamer XJ View Post
I'm guessing (because I don't personally experienced) that most big gassers have bad mpg to start with but will not change as much between towing one or two jeeps. diesels they seem to get the most hit on mpg when loaded vs empty while not as much on gassers.

I can't image that 454 suburban can get much higher than 10 to 13 mpg if not towing.
I think for the most part that's not far off. I've got friends with big blocks and while their mileage doesn't drop TOO much while towing, their unladen mileage is pretty abysmal...like you estimated. Their power is also very lackluster when towing compared to most diesels. My diesel mileage when towing is usually 12-13, but empty is 18-20. And of course, it'll pull any hill with the cruise set and no hunting for gears (automatic).

I had a '99 Suburban 2500. It only had the 350, but would get 12-14 city/hwy. When towing, it dropped to below 9 mpg. So, like you would expect, just a bit better than a big block empty and worse when loaded. It had ZERO towing power, however. So I sold it for my diesel.
12-03-2014 10:40 AM
TrailTamer XJ
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Originally Posted by downs807 View Post
Ouch I get 10 pulling 2 jeeps.
I'm guessing (because I don't personally experienced) that most big gassers have bad mpg to start with but will not change as much between towing one or two jeeps. diesels they seem to get the most hit on mpg when loaded vs empty while not as much on gassers.

I can't image that 454 suburban can get much higher than 10 to 13 mpg if not towing.
12-03-2014 10:24 AM
Valley Auto
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Originally Posted by Mr. Mindless View Post
yeah - trailer to slide in distance looks very tight. How's it turn?
Not to bad I think the angle of the picture makes it look worse. I have a 48" tork lift extension. So the ball is just past the bumper of the camper. It will turn till the jack hits the tounge of the trailer. Pulls like a dream but that trailer is super balanced and stable. Truck actually drives better with the camper and trailer than just the camper.
12-03-2014 10:11 AM
UTAHYJ
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Originally Posted by Johnny Quest View Post
My towpig. '97 2500 suburban; 454/4l80e, tow package. Just got 9.1mpg towing from SLC to Moab

I saw you Sunday in Moab at the Maverick station filling up. I was in the Red Dodge Cummins with a YJ on a trailer behind it. Very cool MJ.

12-03-2014 09:04 AM
joshgammill Here was my setup last weekend.
12-03-2014 08:35 AM
Mr. Mindless yeah - trailer to slide in distance looks very tight. How's it turn?
12-02-2014 05:59 PM
Valley Auto
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Originally Posted by Mr. Mindless View Post
looks tight?

Is that a question for me ?
12-02-2014 05:07 PM
Mr. Mindless looks tight?
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