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02-13-2017 08:08 AM
ACRay
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Originally Posted by cheapthrillb2 View Post
I currently use my old s5 and Bluetooth to the LS ecm. But I thought there was a bolt in cluster that worked via Bluetooth.
Dang it, that's my bad. I read your post after a bottle of rum and thought you were asking about the Bluetooth to phone stuff. I haven't heard of a Bluetooth gauge cluster, but I know speedhut makes a cluster that will plug into the obd2 port
02-12-2017 01:44 PM
cheapthrillb2 I currently use my old s5 and Bluetooth to the LS ecm. But I thought there was a bolt in cluster that worked via Bluetooth.
02-12-2017 01:37 PM
ACRay
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Originally Posted by cheapthrillb2 View Post
What company makes the Bluetooth instrument cluster again?
There's actually a lot, and they're all over Amazon and eBay. I'd say check the reviews for them and google a little bit on the ones with the best reviews. There was a post in this thread about the BAFX Bluetooth dongle that said he'd been using it for a few years with no problems. Also worth a heads up if you're using an apple device apparently the Bluetooth dongles don't work well or at all and you need the wifi one
02-12-2017 07:41 AM
cheapthrillb2 What company makes the Bluetooth instrument cluster again?
02-11-2017 11:09 PM
ACRay Just so y'all know... doing this swap all by myself in the dang garage makes me want to set the house on fire. Also Rubi 241s are heavy and I hate Jeeps. Almost time to buy a Prius and swear off Jeeps.

All joking aside, I've got my motor in the middle bolt of the Novak mounts and my rear drive shaft is way obviously extended longer than it was before. Anyone else gain rear driveshaft length after the swap? Kinda hoped that I wouldn't LOL my front DS was too short after the front axle swap. First world problems
02-11-2017 10:43 AM
ACRay
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Originally Posted by rcherb View Post
To follow up, I was able to figure this out with help from Novak. Since I'm emissions legal in MD they need to see the OBDII readings from the computer. Since the GM computer is running the motor, I'm using the TJ Charcoal Canister, the GM Purge valve, and the GM vent solenoid. I had to drill a hole in the tank for the GM Fuel Tank Pressure sensor. This way the computer will show the correct output on the OBDII port.
Thanks for the follow up! Sounds like I'll be taking all mine off and using a vented gas cap then. I'd say I'm too far past the point of adding all the stuff back I need to make the evap purge work. Oh well
02-06-2017 12:41 PM
rcherb
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Originally Posted by ACRay View Post
Searched the thread and didn't find an answer I was looking for so here goes one more question. Has anyone left their stock Jeep evap purge system on and let the Jeep pcm control it? I've got an 06 and leaving the Jeep PCM stuff there for gauges and AC control, but I haven't seen anyone say if the Jeep evap purge will still work. I don't need emissions for inspection, but would like to have the fuel tank purge without venting into the garage or making the Jeep smell like fumes. So, I wonder if I pipe the Jeep evap purge into the intake it will still control it or just get all pissy that it doesn't see an engine in the Jeep lol
To follow up, I was able to figure this out with help from Novak. Since I'm emissions legal in MD they need to see the OBDII readings from the computer. Since the GM computer is running the motor, I'm using the TJ Charcoal Canister, the GM Purge valve, and the GM vent solenoid. I had to drill a hole in the tank for the GM Fuel Tank Pressure sensor. This way the computer will show the correct output on the OBDII port.
02-05-2017 11:23 AM
ACRay So I said I was going to try the C6 manifolds with my Novak bolt-in motor mounts just to double check. The passenger side might work. It dumps about 4-6 inches above on top of the stock upper control arm mount and could work if you route it about 90 degrees immediately after the collector. The drivers side motor mount is a tad bigger and is just in the way too much to trim the mount or manifold and make it work. So, anybody doing the swap not using bolt in TJ motor mounts want a set of C6 manifolds? ��
02-05-2017 09:31 AM
83cj7skip Could someone with cj take picture of their ignition switch? I don't have a wire that's hot in the "on" and "start" position. As far as that goes there isn't even a terminal in the switch that's hot in the "on" and "start" position. I'm missing somthing and not sure what.

edit: correct me but dont I need power to the pcm when cranking? Right now I only have power when in the on position.
Background.. installing LQ4 with a 411 factory pcm in a 83 cj7.
01-31-2017 09:20 AM
rcherb
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Originally Posted by jherrigton View Post
Okay fellas. Here's a question.

I'm running a modified jeep fuel pump that doesn't have a regulator.

This is going to be an emissions legal swap so I need emissions to work correctly.

Without using the 06 silverado pump, I lose the big connection on top of the pump that goes to the evap canister.. Will I be okay if I blocked this end of the evap hose off and used the roll over valve evap line hooked up to the existing jeep evap roll over valve lines..?

With the 06 setup, they have a big line from the canister that fits on to of the pump and then a smaller line that branches off of the big line (still connected).. From what I've learned by taking the 06 pump apart is that the big line is still only a vent line and does the exact same thing as the smaller line that goes to the roll over valves. So, blocking this bigger line off(since there is nothing to connect it to on the jeep pump) and then attaching the chevy roll over valve line to the jeep roll over valve lines should work fine correct?


Also, I plan to drill a hole in the top plate of the jeep pump assembly and that's where I would insert the chevy fuel tank pressure sensor and I would attach the chevy fuel level sending unit to the jeep fuel pump so that the chevy computer would know how much gas is in the tank. Hopefully that will be legal... If anyone has any imput, or knows if this will be legal or not, speak up. Thanks!

I know its been a while and probably a long shot, but did you try either of these tactics with any success? I'm doing an emissions legal swap as well, I have a 2003 Yukon L59 motor and was unsure of wether to use the Chevy Canister or the Jeep Canister.
01-31-2017 08:32 AM
rcherb
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Originally Posted by ACRay View Post
Picked up a set of C6 manifolds cause they were cheap and local. I had read they wouldn't work with the Novak bolt in motor mounts and this seems to be true for right now, but if i trim a bit off the flange and move the motor back to the last holes on the mount I'm pretty sure they'll work. I'll get some garage time next weekend and find out!
I'm using the Novak mounts and the "Novak Headers" They are just Sanderson SLC-1 and they are TIGHT fitting, maybe 1/4-1/2 an inch of clearance for the tubes and the motor mounts and the flange is pretty close on the passenger side to the upper control arm bracket.
01-29-2017 08:33 AM
ZSavage81 I know it's in this thread somewhere but I'm under the gun and after reading 50 pages I still haven't found it, so......

which lokar throttle cable is everyone using? universal gm? which length?

is it this one? 72" seems long?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

or I also found a 36"?

https://www.amazon.com/Lokar-TC-1000...ottle+cable+ls
01-22-2017 11:22 AM
83cj7skip Probably an easy for most of you, however i'm not having much luck. Can anyone give some pointers on the ignition switch wiring. currently installing a LQ4 in an 83cj7. somewhere along the way i lost power to the stock fuse block,and what wires from the ignition switch go where. heres a list as to whats in question.
from the ignition switch
10 gauge yellow wire
10 gauge pink wire
10 gauge red wire
10 gauge purple wire

Any insight would help
thanks fellows
01-22-2017 09:47 AM
pb foot
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Originally Posted by DuckHunter5.7 View Post
how much pressure can it bleed off? its weird it doesnt do it when its cold or has sat for hours only after it has ran. figure if the pressure bleed off was causing it that it would be worse on a cold start from it has longer to bleed more pressure off. even if i cycle the key several times to build up the pressure it still has the same result.
It the injectors are bleeding down and flooding one or more cylinders right after shut off that will cause a hard rough start unless it sits for a while.
01-22-2017 09:20 AM
foo.c
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Originally Posted by ACRay View Post
Picked up a set of C6 manifolds cause they were cheap and local. I had read they wouldn't work with the Novak bolt in motor mounts and this seems to be true for right now, but if i trim a bit off the flange and move the motor back to the last holes on the mount I'm pretty sure they'll work. I'll get some garage time next weekend and find out!
That's what I did on my CJ7 with the Novak mounts. So far, so good.
01-21-2017 05:15 PM
DuckHunter5.7
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Originally Posted by Twankie View Post
Pressure should not bleed off like that.

What does your fuel system consist of?
Pump, filter, regulator, are the "new" injectors new or used?
how much pressure can it bleed off? its weird it doesnt do it when its cold or has sat for hours only after it has ran. figure if the pressure bleed off was causing it that it would be worse on a cold start from it has longer to bleed more pressure off. even if i cycle the key several times to build up the pressure it still has the same result.
01-21-2017 11:06 AM
ACRay Picked up a set of C6 manifolds cause they were decent priced and local. I had read they wouldn't work with the Novak bolt in motor mounts and this seems to be true for right now, but if i trim a bit off the flange and move the motor back to the last holes on the mount I'm pretty sure they'll work. I'll get some garage time next weekend and find out!
01-20-2017 07:18 PM
matts88yj
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Originally Posted by ACRay View Post
Then I saw just how much that truck pan hangs down it confirmed my thoughts and what I've read that I need to swap an F-body pan in so I don't lose all my oil due to a rock on the trail.
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Originally Posted by foo.c View Post
You might want to search this thread, the F-body pan is apparently no bueno due to oil starvation issues.

I just ordered the pacific fab pan myself.
If you do pick up an F body pan just get an oil pan baffle from Improved Racing and call it a day. That should take care of most of your oil starvation issues that you'll run into unless you're running upside down for 15 minutes.
01-20-2017 08:09 AM
ACRay I'm with twankie on the fact that the psi shouldn't be leaking off like that .... with pressure leaking down and it running really rich my first thought would be to check that you don't have an injector stuck open, either mechanically stuck open, possibly leaking through when it's closed because dirt in it/bad /seals or wire ground and keeping it open? Im not a super diagnosing motor engineer so this is just a thought. I know you said the injectors are new, but new parts not working properly happens every once in a while.
01-19-2017 08:45 PM
DuckHunter5.7 walbro 225 pump, novak regulator bypass and corvette filter, fpr is on the rail. injectors are remans from rock auto.
01-19-2017 08:40 PM
Twankie Pressure should not bleed off like that.

What does your fuel system consist of?
Pump, filter, regulator, are the "new" injectors new or used?
01-19-2017 07:24 PM
DuckHunter5.7 got a 2000 5.3/4l60e in my jeep and ive got about 450 miles on it so far. im having a warm start issue after it has set for a little bit. cranks good when its cold but will idle a little rough for a few seconds. once it runs for about 15 seconds it runs good. only issue is after it has been ran and sets it takes a couple seconds of cranking to start and idles a little rough. it has a brian tooley stage 3 truck cam and tuned by 150tunes. ive replaced the TPS, IAC, fuel pressure regulator, cleaned the throttle body and replaced all 8 injectors because i had 4 or 5 leaking. new maf and new 02 sensors because my setup didnt come with em. idle is really rich you can smell fumes pretty bad if you even get close to it when its idling and the first tank of fuel was 9.4 mpg and the second 2 have been 11.4mpg. fuel pressure with key on not running will go up to 47 psi and i cycle key twice it will go up to 56 or so, no matter how many key cycles it will still crank the same. running pressure is at 52-53. key off and it will go up to 55psi and hold pressure there for 15 minutes and starts to bleed off slowly from there. not throwing any codes. crankshaft sensor failing shows the same symptoms as well as all the other stuff i have replaced. anyone else had this hapen or know where to go from here? i cant stand to not have my stuff running right.
01-19-2017 02:20 PM
ACRay
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Originally Posted by foo.c View Post
You might want to search this thread, the F-body pan is apparently no bueno due to oil starvation issues.

I just ordered the pacific fab pan myself.

I have actually seen that covered in this thread. I didn't mention, but I'm adding a 3 quart oil accumulator to cover starvation and at a little later time (when budget permits) I will add baffles to the pan as well.

Reading up on how accumulators with electric solenoids attached to the accessory power will pre-lube the motor before each start was another little bonus that sold me on getting one.
01-19-2017 11:25 AM
foo.c You might want to search this thread, the F-body pan is apparently no bueno due to oil starvation issues.

I just ordered the pacific fab pan myself.
01-19-2017 09:27 AM
ACRay
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Originally Posted by rcherb View Post
I know people on here have done it. I will be attempting this in the next week or so. I got my engine and trans set in the TJ last night.
I just got my motor and trans wedged into my TJ this weekend too. Then had to pull it back out because I had to massage the tub/firewall a little more than I though I needed to.

I also found out that my truck manifolds are pretty much not gonna work. I could use them, but there would be some nasty angles cause they dump onto the frame rail. Picking up a set of C6 manifolds tomorrow and praying they'll work. Someone many many pages back mentioned that they won't work with the Novak bolt in mounts, but looking at the manifolds and the engine mounts I think they might just squeeze in with a little flange trimming if needed. :fingerscrossed:

Then I saw just how much that truck pan hangs down it confirmed my thoughts and what I've read that I need to swap an F-body pan in so I don't lose all my oil due to a rock on the trail.
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