Navistar Diesel Titan! - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

TRed · 01-03-2005, 07:51 PM

I read that Nissan has a deal with Navistar International to make diesel engines for the Titan Heavy Duty. That just fn rocks! I guess International is still good friends with Nissan after a long time has passed since Nissan built diesels for International Scouts.

hlb3 · 01-03-2005, 08:04 PM

That is cool, but I was hoping Nissan would make their own diesel engine for the Titan that would just destroy the big 3.

jasonmt · 01-03-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hlb3

That is cool, but I was hoping Nissan would make their own diesel engine for the Titan that would just destroy the big 3.

They don't even make their own diesel engine for the UD commercial trucks, the MD 175/230 engines are sourced from Hino.

TRed: Any links?

TRed · 01-03-2005, 08:24 PM

the only thing I know is what I read posted on a Nissan board. Here is the quote from someone who I think works at the Smyrna plant. Nissan has signed an agreement with Navistar International to use one of their engines for the Diesel.

From what I understand and have been told, it will not be a PowerStroke knockoff. It will have plenty of HP and Torque.. And the Weak Link will be the Tranny.. The Engine will be detuned from International, so that it won't kill the tranny to quickly. That being said, it should be pretty easy to get that power back with some ECU Programming..

Cliff

jasonmt · 01-03-2005, 09:12 PM

The only 2 engines I could see them using would be the VT 275(4.5L V6) or the VT 365 (Powerstroke base) the DT 466 is too big/heavy. Or is it going to be a all new engine?

System-f · 01-05-2005, 11:45 AM

There is still the T444E which according to internationls stats is a couple lbs lighter than the VT365, although the T444E weight is dry.

http://www.internationaldelivers.com...444edetail.asp

Diesel Smoke · 01-05-2005, 12:07 PM

This is really strange, I mean my International (Navistrar) Scout came stock with a Nissan diesel and now Nissan may be offering a stock Nissan with an IH diesel. Strange world we live in. I have always liked the Titan and if they go with either the VT365 or the 444E I will like it even more.

coolcruiserfj40 · 01-05-2005, 12:43 PM

last year when i bought my titan they said 06 07 they would be coming out with a turbo diesel or supercharger 5.6

jasonmt · 01-05-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by System-f

There is still the T444E which according to internationls stats is a couple lbs lighter than the VT365, although the T444E weight is dry.

http://www.internationaldelivers.com...444edetail.asp

The T444E won't meet upcoming emissions standards and would "appear" to be a step backwards in the eyes of the public. Before someone gives me crap I LIKE the T444E as I have owned a few and still currently have one.

System-f · 01-06-2005, 01:42 PM

Well the VT365 sure won't cut it if people find out it's relationship to the Ford motor.. god forbid someone has to replace an injector pump or oil pump on one... if they would only bring back the DT(A)360

datz510 · 01-06-2005, 02:44 PM

FWIW, the T444E is also a PITA to replace the oil pump on. I believe it requires pulling the engine. The injector pump is right up front and not too hard to replace.

Sources are saying that the International motor to be used will be the twin turbo V-6 Navistar VT275. This is the same engine that Ford was going to put into its F150s until the project was abandoned not too long ago.

XterraGuy · 01-06-2005, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRed

the only thing I know is what I read posted on a Nissan board. Here is the quote from someone who I think works at the Smyrna plant.

Cliff doesn't work for Nissan, that much I do know.

I passed that word that Navistar was supplying the diesel to a Nissan master tech I know. He said that's not correct, he hears it's being supplied by Renault and was pretty adamant about it...

I tend to believe the Navistar rumor...

Either way, good to see the diesel is coming, regardless of who builds it!

Brent

82FB · 01-06-2005, 05:06 PM

Just as long as they wake up and put a decent size rear axle in the thing! My friends d44 ish rear axle doesn't look like it will cut it with a very nice 305 hp motor.

wilburburns · 01-06-2005, 08:10 PM

Brent, you are correct, I don't work for International, But I do have family that does.. The info I have given has come directly from an International Rep... As I have already stated, From what I have been told, the agreement with International has already been finalized. But, Time will tell, so until it's actually in the showrooms, or officially on the Nissan website, we won't know for sure..

Cliff

01-03-2005, 07:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
TRed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12100 Location: Priskitt AZ Posts: 1,168	Navistar Diesel Titan! I read that Nissan has a deal with Navistar International to make diesel engines for the Titan Heavy Duty. That just fn rocks! I guess International is still good friends with Nissan after a long time has passed since Nissan built diesels for International Scouts. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by randii if you're a Pickle, rolling down the trail in a Smurf, dispensing bowls of dicks. FWIW, I don't want to see pictures of that, either! Randii

01-03-2005, 08:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
hlb3 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27730 Location: Tenino, Washington Posts: 141	That is cool, but I was hoping Nissan would make their own diesel engine for the Titan that would just destroy the big 3. __________________ -'84 Nissan 720, 305/TH350/Dual Cases, D44/14bolt, welded F/R, 38.5x11.00 Boggers -Zuk buggy coming soon...

01-03-2005, 08:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
TRed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12100 Location: Priskitt AZ Posts: 1,168	the only thing I know is what I read posted on a Nissan board. Here is the quote from someone who I think works at the Smyrna plant. Nissan has signed an agreement with Navistar International to use one of their engines for the Diesel. From what I understand and have been told, it will not be a PowerStroke knockoff. It will have plenty of HP and Torque.. And the Weak Link will be the Tranny.. The Engine will be detuned from International, so that it won't kill the tranny to quickly. That being said, it should be pretty easy to get that power back with some ECU Programming.. Cliff __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by randii if you're a Pickle, rolling down the trail in a Smurf, dispensing bowls of dicks. FWIW, I don't want to see pictures of that, either! Randii

01-03-2005, 09:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
jasonmt Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3236 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,761	The only 2 engines I could see them using would be the VT 275(4.5L V6) or the VT 365 (Powerstroke base) the DT 466 is too big/heavy. Or is it going to be a all new engine? __________________ [QUOTE=Roxywheels]The trolls always out themselves :laughing: :roxy:[/QUOTE]

01-05-2005, 11:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
System-f Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Member # 23900 Location: Texas Posts: 172	There is still the T444E which according to internationls stats is a couple lbs lighter than the VT365, although the T444E weight is dry. http://www.internationaldelivers.com...444edetail.asp Last edited by System-f; 01-05-2005 at 12:32 PM.

01-05-2005, 12:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Diesel Smoke "Official" Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27575 Location: Oregon, Our voters are that Dumb Posts: 3,360	turn of events This is really strange, I mean my International (Navistrar) Scout came stock with a Nissan diesel and now Nissan may be offering a stock Nissan with an IH diesel. Strange world we live in. I have always liked the Titan and if they go with either the VT365 or the 444E I will like it even more. __________________ Wheeling?!?!? WTF is that?

01-05-2005, 12:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
coolcruiserfj40 Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40057 Posts: 2,878	last year when i bought my titan they said 06 07 they would be coming out with a turbo diesel or supercharger 5.6

01-06-2005, 01:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
System-f Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Member # 23900 Location: Texas Posts: 172	Well the VT365 sure won't cut it if people find out it's relationship to the Ford motor.. god forbid someone has to replace an injector pump or oil pump on one... if they would only bring back the DT(A)360 Last edited by System-f; 01-06-2005 at 01:49 PM.

01-06-2005, 02:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
datz510 Wheeler Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15426 Location: az Posts: 291	FWIW, the T444E is also a PITA to replace the oil pump on. I believe it requires pulling the engine. The injector pump is right up front and not too hard to replace. Sources are saying that the International motor to be used will be the twin turbo V-6 Navistar VT275. This is the same engine that Ford was going to put into its F150s until the project was abandoned not too long ago.

01-06-2005, 05:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
82FB Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 41 Location: Ventura County, CA Posts: 3,238	Just as long as they wake up and put a decent size rear axle in the thing! My friends d44 ish rear axle doesn't look like it will cut it with a very nice 305 hp motor.

01-06-2005, 08:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
wilburburns Wheeler Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18120 Location: Ky Posts: 426	Brent, you are correct, I don't work for International, But I do have family that does.. The info I have given has come directly from an International Rep... As I have already stated, From what I have been told, the agreement with International has already been finalized. But, Time will tell, so until it's actually in the showrooms, or officially on the Nissan website, we won't know for sure.. Cliff

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