Nissan VS Toyota... Front and Rears..... - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

MuD BoGGeR · 01-09-2005, 09:31 PM

OK what i plan to do is... a SAS on the ol 720... By useing a Toyota front end, because 1/2 and 3/4 ton front and rears are way tooo wide. So what i need to know is what are width diffrences if any between a 720 Nissan Rear end and a Toyota front??..

5spd · 01-09-2005, 09:41 PM

Toyota fronts are 55"wms-wms. Now just measure your 720 rear. I do not know that one.

hlb3 · 01-09-2005, 10:09 PM

You would be much better off swapping the rear to a Yota axle too since there is actually an aftermarket for them.

projckt_Wldkat · 01-09-2005, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hlb3

You would be much better off swapping the rear to a Yota axle too since there is actually an aftermarket for them.

exactly. i believe gears for a Nissan for around $400 per end, and you can only get them from the factory. One reason i went wiht yota's F&R.

hoonz · 01-10-2005, 03:02 AM

why don't u want the width? is it a daily driver?

Plush_Darkside · 01-10-2005, 04:31 AM

My guess is for the narrow trails here in the east.

MuD BoGGeR · 01-10-2005, 09:07 AM

Yea i was thinking on just swapping the Nissan rear to All Toyota front and rear's and just leaving my Nissan T-Case. See i have 2 Nissan Front and Rears, and 2 T-Case's for a Nissan 720. I just want to make sure to have a good front and rear and also drive shafts. Yea the reason for not wanting such wide axles is like what Plush_Darkside said... These narrow trails we have around here. Especially a big ride we go on that has such bad/deep mud holes that alot of trucks have to go around them and the trails going around them are very tight between tree's. I know the 3/4 ton stuff is very tuff. But i want the mini truck width even though ill be running around a 8" wide wheel on around 38" Boggers.

projckt_Wldkat · 01-10-2005, 10:05 AM

a route i thoguth of going was to swap in a toyota 3rd into the Nissan housing. i did do any research into if it would work becasue i found a sweet deal on a complete rear end, but you might consider it.

MuD BoGGeR · 01-10-2005, 11:43 AM

Thats is an idea... Ive gotta friend i talked to earlier that is a Yota freak and builds wicked trucks out of any Yota, weither it be a lifted up Yota with 44"s to rock crawlers and he told he had a front and rear yota diff's complete that are stock and came out from under the same truck. He told me they were in the way cause he had so much Yota stuff stuffed in his garage that if id come get em i could have em both for 100 bucks. So im gonna look into it as soon as i get this car of mine sold. Being broke sucks, especially when being laid off cause of seasonale work.

projckt_Wldkat · 01-11-2005, 08:34 AM

That's a kickass deal! being broke sux hella, im a college student with no job.

MuD BoGGeR · 01-11-2005, 11:55 AM

Yea its a killer deal, but between bills here at home, bank notes, cell phone and just all other living expenses i cant afford to even brake out a the 100 bill to buy the damn things, ive gotta car i been trying to sell and a couple of ppl wanna buy it but no one has come across yet. And i cant wait till refund time...

XterraGuy · 01-11-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by projckt_Wldkat

a route i thoguth of going was to swap in a toyota 3rd into the Nissan housing.

Now how the hell would that work? It would have to be pure luck if the bolt/stud holes lined up and the distance from the mating surface to the axle centerline were the same.

Brent

Plush_Darkside · 01-12-2005, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by XterraGuy

Now how the hell would that work? It would have to be pure luck if the bolt/stud holes lined up and the distance from the mating surface to the axle centerline were the same.

Brent

Never know until you try. Has anyone?

hlb3 · 01-12-2005, 01:20 AM

Yeah, I don't see how it would work, the H233 has A LOT bigger ring gear than a Yota, I think a Yota axle is more in the ball park of an H190. If it could be done it would be very cool though, cheap gears would be nice.

Yakker · 01-12-2005, 05:56 PM

Damn if that did work that would be really really cool, open up a whole new door for gears and lockers and such. But ya i definetly cant see it working at all anyways. I'd still take my h233b over a toyota axle anyday. Cheap gears would be very very very nice. Well since nissan is using the dana 44s now, at least some nissan owners will be gettin cheap gears in the future. So whos gonna be the first to SAS an '05 fronty or titan?

01-09-2005, 09:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
MuD BoGGeR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41208 Location: Chattanooga,Tn Posts: 7	Nissan VS Toyota... Front and Rears..... OK what i plan to do is... a SAS on the ol 720... By useing a Toyota front end, because 1/2 and 3/4 ton front and rears are way tooo wide. So what i need to know is what are width diffrences if any between a 720 Nissan Rear end and a Toyota front??.. __________________ '84 NiSSaN 4x4 720, Regular Cab, Silver on Black Interior, Stock Heigth Suspension with 4" Body lift. 33x12.50 Super Swamper Thornbirds on 8" Wide Black Co-Op Wheels, 4.11 front and rear. -Soon Mods- SAS, 10"+ of Lift, Boggers...Running Gears??

01-09-2005, 09:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
5spd Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5333 Location: WY Posts: 3,227	Toyota fronts are 55"wms-wms. Now just measure your 720 rear. I do not know that one. __________________ Family of Veterans!

01-09-2005, 10:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
hlb3 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27730 Location: Tenino, Washington Posts: 141	You would be much better off swapping the rear to a Yota axle too since there is actually an aftermarket for them. __________________ -'84 Nissan 720, 305/TH350/Dual Cases, D44/14bolt, welded F/R, 38.5x11.00 Boggers -Zuk buggy coming soon...

01-10-2005, 03:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
hoonz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 39302 Location: Townsville(aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi) Posts: 25	why don't u want the width? is it a daily driver? __________________ Nissan Patrol GQ ute lifted, locked, turbo'd and intercooled 4.2 diesel

01-10-2005, 04:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
Plush_Darkside Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21434 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 128	My guess is for the narrow trails here in the east. __________________ [COLOR=DarkRed]'93 Pathfinder[/COLOR] '88 Pathfinder

01-10-2005, 09:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
MuD BoGGeR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41208 Location: Chattanooga,Tn Posts: 7	Yea i was thinking on just swapping the Nissan rear to All Toyota front and rear's and just leaving my Nissan T-Case. See i have 2 Nissan Front and Rears, and 2 T-Case's for a Nissan 720. I just want to make sure to have a good front and rear and also drive shafts. Yea the reason for not wanting such wide axles is like what Plush_Darkside said... These narrow trails we have around here. Especially a big ride we go on that has such bad/deep mud holes that alot of trucks have to go around them and the trails going around them are very tight between tree's. I know the 3/4 ton stuff is very tuff. But i want the mini truck width even though ill be running around a 8" wide wheel on around 38" Boggers. __________________ '84 NiSSaN 4x4 720, Regular Cab, Silver on Black Interior, Stock Heigth Suspension with 4" Body lift. 33x12.50 Super Swamper Thornbirds on 8" Wide Black Co-Op Wheels, 4.11 front and rear. -Soon Mods- SAS, 10"+ of Lift, Boggers...Running Gears??

01-10-2005, 10:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
projckt_Wldkat Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 35750 Location: Lynnwood,WA Posts: 271	a route i thoguth of going was to swap in a toyota 3rd into the Nissan housing. i did do any research into if it would work becasue i found a sweet deal on a complete rear end, but you might consider it. __________________ [SIZE=5][FONT=Arial Black][COLOR=DarkRed]NEVER FORGET #40[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] 87 Zuk: 5.13's, locked front and rear, 32's, Calmini X-over, and some square tube

01-10-2005, 11:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
MuD BoGGeR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41208 Location: Chattanooga,Tn Posts: 7	Thats is an idea... Ive gotta friend i talked to earlier that is a Yota freak and builds wicked trucks out of any Yota, weither it be a lifted up Yota with 44"s to rock crawlers and he told he had a front and rear yota diff's complete that are stock and came out from under the same truck. He told me they were in the way cause he had so much Yota stuff stuffed in his garage that if id come get em i could have em both for 100 bucks. So im gonna look into it as soon as i get this car of mine sold. Being broke sucks, especially when being laid off cause of seasonale work. __________________ '84 NiSSaN 4x4 720, Regular Cab, Silver on Black Interior, Stock Heigth Suspension with 4" Body lift. 33x12.50 Super Swamper Thornbirds on 8" Wide Black Co-Op Wheels, 4.11 front and rear. -Soon Mods- SAS, 10"+ of Lift, Boggers...Running Gears??

01-11-2005, 08:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
projckt_Wldkat Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 35750 Location: Lynnwood,WA Posts: 271	That's a kickass deal! being broke sux hella, im a college student with no job. __________________ [SIZE=5][FONT=Arial Black][COLOR=DarkRed]NEVER FORGET #40[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] 87 Zuk: 5.13's, locked front and rear, 32's, Calmini X-over, and some square tube

01-11-2005, 11:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
MuD BoGGeR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41208 Location: Chattanooga,Tn Posts: 7	Yea its a killer deal, but between bills here at home, bank notes, cell phone and just all other living expenses i cant afford to even brake out a the 100 bill to buy the damn things, ive gotta car i been trying to sell and a couple of ppl wanna buy it but no one has come across yet. And i cant wait till refund time... __________________ '84 NiSSaN 4x4 720, Regular Cab, Silver on Black Interior, Stock Heigth Suspension with 4" Body lift. 33x12.50 Super Swamper Thornbirds on 8" Wide Black Co-Op Wheels, 4.11 front and rear. -Soon Mods- SAS, 10"+ of Lift, Boggers...Running Gears??

01-12-2005, 01:20 AM	#14 (permalink)
hlb3 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27730 Location: Tenino, Washington Posts: 141	Yeah, I don't see how it would work, the H233 has A LOT bigger ring gear than a Yota, I think a Yota axle is more in the ball park of an H190. If it could be done it would be very cool though, cheap gears would be nice. __________________ -'84 Nissan 720, 305/TH350/Dual Cases, D44/14bolt, welded F/R, 38.5x11.00 Boggers -Zuk buggy coming soon...

01-12-2005, 05:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
Yakker Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Member # 19069 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 97	Damn if that did work that would be really really cool, open up a whole new door for gears and lockers and such. But ya i definetly cant see it working at all anyways. I'd still take my h233b over a toyota axle anyday. Cheap gears would be very very very nice. Well since nissan is using the dana 44s now, at least some nissan owners will be gettin cheap gears in the future. So whos gonna be the first to SAS an '05 fronty or titan?

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