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Old 01-27-2008, 07:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Steering box with forward facing pitman arm?

I'm in the middle of SASing my 00 Xterra. I need a steering box with a forward facing pitman arm. FJs have them but older imports are hard to find in junkyards by me. Scouts are pretty rare too. What other trucks should I be looking at? If I get a box off a domestic truck, I'm assuming I'll have to change over fittings, right?
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Well, there is a whole bunch of them out there.... From fords to GM's, there is a large selection to choose from. Go to your local junkyard and start looking for the size that will work be for you.... a saginaw box are the most common, however front facing pitman arm ones are kinda rare.... And just to state this in case you didn't know, you cant just flip the piman arm around.... It will steer backwards.... something to think about tho is hydro assist. If your looking to do that there are certain boxes better than others.....

So basically go to your local junkyard and look for something that will work for you.... Yes, you will need custom hoses, but whatever you do, its not going to be a direct swap anyway. THere is a a lot of work in mounting a different box as well. Make sure your not in over your head no this one. Also, something to think about is the size of that power steering pump. Is that pump going to flow enough fluid? Will it burn it self up... I dont know what those use for them...good luck...
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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did you put the front axle that far forward? Going full hydro would be better and easier. Share pics please
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I think if he is sas-ing his rig he would be more than capable moving the box. I would use a scoutII box. They are pretty cheap on car-part.com.
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Old 01-28-2008, 10:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Its far enough forward that the pitman arm will contact the tracbar. I know I eventually will want hydro assist, just right now. Which boxes are better for that? My other option is moving the stock box, but its the same amount of work and I don't want to have to change it again down the road.
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Old 01-28-2008, 12:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Just buy a rebuilt box from the parts store and uses your stock one as the core. Anything you find at the bone yard will most likely need a rebuild...and that's not easy so you'll probably end up buying a rebuilt one any way.

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Old 01-28-2008, 01:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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BUT.. i don't think it will work.. I need to do the same with mine.
I want to push my axle forward, but you can't move the stock steerign box, due to the rad.
A forward facing steering box own't work, cause it will be right where my coils are.. so, i'm screwed wich ever way.

there is one more option, Rotate the box down (at the back) relocate it and you should get 1-2" forward on your pitman.
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Old 01-28-2008, 07:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Searching on Nissan4wheelers I found a couple of people who have figured this out. One guy used a 79 bronco box on a SFA pathfinder and said a few of his friends used Scout boxes, which was a better choice in his opinion. Another guy relocated his stock box. He said you can move the splined section is pressed into the steering shaft and can be oved to make up the extra mength without modification. He had good pictures of the whole process too. After measuring my truck, a little sheet metal will need to be removed near the body mount but that's OK. I think I'm gonna try moving my box to save a little $$. The teardown started tonight and I should be up to moving the box by the weekend. I'll post up pics when it happens.

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Moving the box isn't that hard. Just make sure you use some plugs in the frame for the bolts to go through like the toyota guys do. That way you don't pinch the frame. Pics man, pics.



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I used a Toyota box on mine as there were different pitman arms available for it. I also pushed it as far forward, and even trimmed the body mount some.
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Old 01-30-2008, 09:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hey i dont mean to hijack the thread but is there any reason the stock pump and box for a pathfinder ('94) would be a bad setup for hydro-assist steering with SAS? Anyone know of any writeups on it? Thanks
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Hey i dont mean to hijack the thread but is there any reason the stock pump and box for a pathfinder ('94) would be a bad setup for hydro-assist steering with SAS? Anyone know of any writeups on it? Thanks
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Go with a scout 2 box it's a much better choice then the ford knockoff



Here is the nissan box we all know and trust. Well built for sure but not forward sweeping.

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Old 02-14-2008, 07:09 AM   #14 (permalink)
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For the pump all you need to do is drill the restrictor valve to a bigger size


And put a couple split lock (4mm pounded flat) washers in the pressure regulator.



This is a 88 pump sometime later 92 i think nissan used a different regulator and restrictor.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:48 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Chevy astro van has the forward facing pitman arm.
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curleyman, that looks super close to the frame or is it just the camera angle?


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Old 03-18-2008, 11:09 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Nope i can fit 4 buisness cards in that space ... I wanted it as far forward as possible incase I ever want to push the axle further forward. It has been tried and tested for 4 months now with no rubbing/flexing issues.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:01 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Nissan Patrols have a forward facing pitman arm...
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