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Old 09-07-2011, 04:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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We're going to have to buy ammo in Nevada or Arizona

SB 427 passed. Hopefully JB will do the right thing and veto it.

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I'm good for at least one zombi attack before I'll have to load up on ammo again.

I already by out of state. This law will suck, but ammo here is over priced.
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I hope it gets shoved back up DeLeon's ass like 962 did.
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On a good note, SB798 died. That was to make airsoft/toy guns bright colored.
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I hope it gets shoved back up DeLeon's ass like 962 did.
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Guessing this is a California only thing?
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Guessing this is a California only thing?
Yea, retard politicians think registering ammo will help solve crimes.
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how do you... register... ammo
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how do you... register... ammo
Take your drivers license number, thumb print, and address when buying ammo.
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Take your drivers license number, thumb print, and address when buying ammo.
So what, in the event of a shooting, they find the deformed bullets and spent brass, finger print it, and hopefully get a match?

Say a 9mm was used. Does everybody that bought 9mm become a suspect?

Sounds like a way to get more information than they should ever have about their ammo buying citizens.
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Yea, retard politicians think registering ammo will help solve crimes.
Y'all really need to get out of that mindset that "they" are stupid. They're not.
They want a disarmed populace. That pesky 2nd ammendment keeps getting in the way. Public safety has nothing to do with it. Do you really think "they" give a flying fuck?

"They" have brilliantly deduced that going for ammo will effectively accomplish their objective, greater control over a helpless population.

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So what, in the event of a shooting, they find the deformed bullets and spent brass, finger print it, and hopefully get a match?

Say a 9mm was used. Does everybody that bought 9mm become a suspect?

Sounds like a way to get more information than they should ever have about their ammo buying citizens.
Information is power.
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Nothing in the law closes the back door of you going out of state to buy ammo?
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Nothing in the law closes the back door of you going out of state to buy ammo?
Not that I'm aware of. If this thing passes I see some road trips in the future. Wonder if the FFLs are gonna need to report truckloads of maniacs buying pallets of .mil caliber ammo?

Guess I need to stock up on powder & primers.

Is this just for handgun ammo or all ammo?

EDIT: "Ammunition capable of being used in a handgun."

Which is just about anything, really...
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Y'all really need to get out of that mindset that "they" are stupid. They're not.
They want a disarmed populace. That pesky 2nd ammendment keeps getting in the way. Public safety has nothing to do with it. Do you really think "they" give a flying fuck?

"They" have brilliantly deduced that going for ammo will effectively accomplish their objective, greater control over a helpless population.
And they are correct. Evil and misguided and duplicitous, but they are definitely not stupid...their actions are achieving their objective.

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Guess I need to stock up on powder & primers.

Is this just for handgun ammo or all ammo?

EDIT: "Ammunition capable of being used in a handgun."

Which is just about anything, really...
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Nothing in the law closes the back door of you going out of state to buy ammo?
Prepare to hear other states and politicians bitching about the "ammunition loophole" here in AZ now...

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How do they define handgun ammo?
That shouldn't include .22, .25, 6mm, 6.5mm, .270, 7mm, .30, etc.

Any links that show it passed?
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How do they define handgun ammo?
That shouldn't include .22, .25, 6mm, 6.5mm, .270, 7mm, .30, etc.
You'd think.

"Rifle" calibers right?

See:

http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/firea...ls.php?ID=1626

It's a very slippery slope.
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Thats why I was asking. I would expect to see the commons on there-.380,9mm,.38/.357, .40, 10mm,.44,.45.

Not sure what this means, where were headed, etc....
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Any links that show it passed?
It goes back to the senate for a second vote.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/...06_status.html

Here is the bill details. About halfway down is the calibers.

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bil...d_asm_v93.html

So 556/223 and 7.62x39 aren't listed. I guess they don't consider them pistol rounds. Looks like a Draco might join my collection.
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So 556/223 and 7.62x39 aren't listed. I guess they don't consider them pistol rounds. Looks like a Draco might join my collection.
Who makes a good ankle holster for those?
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thought you guys would like this.

http://pvtimes.com/news/new-store-sells-bulk-ammo/
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Reminds me of a story about Russians in the Cold War times.

As it was told to me, I'm not sure about fact or fiction...

If a Russian wanted to go hunting they had to go to an office, a game warden of sorts, and ask for a firearm. Seems the firearms (don't remember if they were individually owned or state owned) were kept there at the office under lock and key. Ammunition was issued to individuals. Not like, "Hey comrade, I need a few boxes of ammo so me and the boy can go plinking and hunting, so hook a brotha up." More like, "Here are you 3-5 rounds, bring back all spent cases... or else."

Is Cali headed in that direction?
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Reminds me of a story about Russians in the Cold War times.

As it was told to me, I'm not sure about fact or fiction...

If a Russian wanted to go hunting they had to go to an office, a game warden of sorts, and ask for a firearm. Seems the firearms (don't remember if they were individually owned or state owned) were kept there at the office under lock and key. Ammunition was issued to individuals. Not like, "Hey comrade, I need a few boxes of ammo so me and the boy can go plinking and hunting, so hook a brotha up." More like, "Here are you 3-5 rounds, bring back all spent cases... or else."

Is Cali headed in that direction?
That makes my fucking skin crawl...
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