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shopteach · 12-07-2011, 04:31 AM

I need some help (advice). I sort of started to collect old Winchester model 12 shotguns. I have one 12ga built in 1935 and one 16ga built in 1926. My question is, how do I know what length of shotgun shells I should be using? I havent found much difinitive info out there. I have ordered several books, most have been disappointing.
Thanks

79CJ5II · 12-07-2011, 04:38 AM

My 16ga. model 12 only likes remington and fiocchi(sp.?) 2 3/4' shells. It will not eject the same size winchester shells. Hope that helps.

fastg60 · 12-07-2011, 04:51 AM

My Model 12 (actually built in 1912) uses 2 3/4" 12gauge shells, brand doesn't seem to matter.

SilverZuk · 12-07-2011, 06:03 AM

Every model 12 I have seen shoots standard 2 3/4" ammo.
The only shotgun I have seen that wouldn't was a marlin pump gun (I think model 42).
It would only shoot paper shells with a roll crimp. Modern plastic hulls were too long to eject after being fired. It shot them fine, but you would have to dig the hull out with your pocket knife.

Ben Segrest · 12-07-2011, 09:10 AM

The 12-gauge should be at least 2-3/4, and may be 3" (the 3" was introduced right around that time), but the 16 is probably 2-9/16". Your best bet is to measure the chambers yourself. This site explains how.

http://www.tbullock.com/bpsg.html

Jeepermat · 12-07-2011, 06:37 PM

Mine will not shoot 3", 2-3/4 only.
Brand doesnt seem to matter

BOFF · 12-07-2011, 08:25 PM

The 16 gauges are finicky on what they will eject. Mine (2 3/4" only)will only eject the spent Remington game loads. The other name brand shells will not eject the spent hulls.

Not sure about what year comes into play with the 12 1/2" shells. I'm thinking that only comes into play with the 1897 models. Currently pretty tired, AND sick, so I may be way off in my thoughts.

Great looking guns though!! One of my favorites.

God Bless,
David B.

DoOgster · 12-07-2011, 09:40 PM

Sorry I can't answer your question because I haven't put any through this one.

I have a question for you though, how much you think this one would be worth?
I think it'd make a great upland gun, it weighs nothing, but I'll probably sell it, I want an O/U or a light weight auto.

Zuki Tyler · 12-07-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DoOgster

Sorry I can't answer your question because I haven't put any through this one.
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I have a question for you though, how much you think this one would be worth?
I think it'd make a great upland gun, it weighs nothing, but I'll probably sell it, I want an O/U or a light weight auto.

$25, deliver it to Phoenix?

OP: As everyone else has said, it's probably a 2.75"

DoOgster · 12-07-2011, 10:31 PM

$25 plus a $200 delivery fee?

Unka-Boo · 12-07-2011, 10:42 PM

Mid 30's should be 2-3/4". There is such a thing as a 2-9/16 chamber, but they tend to be on early guns.

spork2367 · 12-08-2011, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoOgster

$25 plus a $200 delivery fee?

Is it a 16ga or 12ga?

Zuki Tyler · 12-08-2011, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoOgster

$25 plus a $200 delivery fee?

You asked.

DoOgster · 12-08-2011, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spork2367

Is it a 16ga or 12ga?

16 ga

BOFF · 12-08-2011, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoOgster

$25 plus a $200 delivery fee?

How about $25.00 and I have it picked up?

God Bless,
David B.

12-07-2011, 04:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
shopteach Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 54135 Location: salem oh Posts: 1,184	old shotgun ammo help I need some help (advice). I sort of started to collect old Winchester model 12 shotguns. I have one 12ga built in 1935 and one 16ga built in 1926. My question is, how do I know what length of shotgun shells I should be using? I havent found much difinitive info out there. I have ordered several books, most have been disappointing. Thanks __________________ WWW.SCHOOLJEEP.COM /forum/jeep-hardcore-tech/397140-shop-class-project.html Last edited by shopteach; 12-07-2011 at 04:33 AM.

12-07-2011, 04:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
fastg60 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38567 Location: Ft. Wainwright, AK/Dayton, OH Posts: 489	My Model 12 (actually built in 1912) uses 2 3/4" 12gauge shells, brand doesn't seem to matter. __________________ WANTED: 30' ish bumper pull trailer near 45342

12-07-2011, 06:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
SilverZuk Hillbilly Houndsman Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13420 Location: Kenna, West Virginia Posts: 6,825	Every model 12 I have seen shoots standard 2 3/4" ammo. The only shotgun I have seen that wouldn't was a marlin pump gun (I think model 42). It would only shoot paper shells with a roll crimp. Modern plastic hulls were too long to eject after being fired. It shot them fine, but you would have to dig the hull out with your pocket knife. __________________ The penalty for punching someone in the mouth is way too high in our society. www.MountaineerOffroad.com

12-07-2011, 09:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ben Segrest Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13467 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Posts: 3,640	The 12-gauge should be at least 2-3/4, and may be 3" (the 3" was introduced right around that time), but the 16 is probably 2-9/16". Your best bet is to measure the chambers yourself. This site explains how. http://www.tbullock.com/bpsg.html __________________ [QUOTE=Willyswanter's Dad;8398776]I'm trying to find spinner caps that will fit the wheels so when I'm stuck it will look as though I'm still wheeling[/QUOTE]

12-07-2011, 06:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jeepermat Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67907 Location: DBQ, IA Posts: 2,198	Mine will not shoot 3", 2-3/4 only. Brand doesnt seem to matter __________________ The Beepster [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=727456[/url]

12-07-2011, 04:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
79CJ5II Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Member # 95651 Posts: 16	My 16ga. model 12 only likes remington and fiocchi(sp.?) 2 3/4' shells. It will not eject the same size winchester shells. Hope that helps.

12-07-2011, 08:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
BOFF Rock God Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38890 Location: Northport, Alabama Posts: 2,227	The 16 gauges are finicky on what they will eject. Mine (2 3/4" only)will only eject the spent Remington game loads. The other name brand shells will not eject the spent hulls. Not sure about what year comes into play with the 12 1/2" shells. I'm thinking that only comes into play with the 1897 models. Currently pretty tired, AND sick, so I may be way off in my thoughts. Great looking guns though!! One of my favorites. God Bless, David B. __________________ 88 Tintop DD- Toy 4.38s, lockers, YJ springs, 4.16 Tcase, 33s, Sidekick ps, etc, etc.. Last edited by BOFF; 12-07-2011 at 08:27 PM.

12-07-2011, 09:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
DoOgster Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51342 Location: Flagstaff Posts: 8	Sorry I can't answer your question because I haven't put any through this one. I have a question for you though, how much you think this one would be worth? I think it'd make a great upland gun, it weighs nothing, but I'll probably sell it, I want an O/U or a light weight auto.

12-07-2011, 10:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
DoOgster Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51342 Location: Flagstaff Posts: 8	$25 plus a $200 delivery fee?

12-07-2011, 10:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
Unka-Boo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Member # 105338 Location: OR Posts: 316	Mid 30's should be 2-3/4". There is such a thing as a 2-9/16 chamber, but they tend to be on early guns.

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