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Old 12-07-2011, 04:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I need some help (advice). I sort of started to collect old Winchester model 12 shotguns. I have one 12ga built in 1935 and one 16ga built in 1926. My question is, how do I know what length of shotgun shells I should be using? I havent found much difinitive info out there. I have ordered several books, most have been disappointing.
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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My 16ga. model 12 only likes remington and fiocchi(sp.?) 2 3/4' shells. It will not eject the same size winchester shells. Hope that helps.
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My Model 12 (actually built in 1912) uses 2 3/4" 12gauge shells, brand doesn't seem to matter.

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Old 12-07-2011, 06:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Every model 12 I have seen shoots standard 2 3/4" ammo.
The only shotgun I have seen that wouldn't was a marlin pump gun (I think model 42).
It would only shoot paper shells with a roll crimp. Modern plastic hulls were too long to eject after being fired. It shot them fine, but you would have to dig the hull out with your pocket knife.
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The 12-gauge should be at least 2-3/4, and may be 3" (the 3" was introduced right around that time), but the 16 is probably 2-9/16". Your best bet is to measure the chambers yourself. This site explains how.

http://www.tbullock.com/bpsg.html
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Mine will not shoot 3", 2-3/4 only.
Brand doesnt seem to matter
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Old 12-07-2011, 08:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The 16 gauges are finicky on what they will eject. Mine (2 3/4" only)will only eject the spent Remington game loads. The other name brand shells will not eject the spent hulls.

Not sure about what year comes into play with the 12 1/2" shells. I'm thinking that only comes into play with the 1897 models. Currently pretty tired, AND sick, so I may be way off in my thoughts.


Great looking guns though!! One of my favorites.



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Old 12-07-2011, 09:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Sorry I can't answer your question because I haven't put any through this one.


I have a question for you though, how much you think this one would be worth?
I think it'd make a great upland gun, it weighs nothing, but I'll probably sell it, I want an O/U or a light weight auto.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sorry I can't answer your question because I haven't put any through this one.
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I have a question for you though, how much you think this one would be worth?
I think it'd make a great upland gun, it weighs nothing, but I'll probably sell it, I want an O/U or a light weight auto.
$25, deliver it to Phoenix?

OP: As everyone else has said, it's probably a 2.75"
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$25 plus a $200 delivery fee?
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Mid 30's should be 2-3/4". There is such a thing as a 2-9/16 chamber, but they tend to be on early guns.
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$25 plus a $200 delivery fee?
Is it a 16ga or 12ga?
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You asked.
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Is it a 16ga or 12ga?
16 ga
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$25 plus a $200 delivery fee?
How about $25.00 and I have it picked up?



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