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Old 12-14-2011, 11:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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School me on shotguns

I'm looking to start hunting soon and want to get a nice gun that will last but also won't break the bank!

I've been lookin at Remington 870s and benilli nova pumps. They are the same relative price both can shot slug and 3 1/2 shells. Not sure if it's worth the extra money to get the gun in camo or just in standard black.

I've heard that mossburg 500s are cheap but can't really back it up.

I'm lookin to deer and waterfowl hunt btw. Hopefully more waterfowl then deer though.
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Get the Benelli. You wont regret it. Also search, this has been covered many times...
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Get the Benelli. You wont regret it. Also search, this has been covered many times...
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for the love of all things hunting, do not buy a mossberg pump.

whats your price range? breaking the bank is different for different people and it might change depending on what you are talking about buying. i say buy once, cry once. of course i think its reasonable to spend 1500-1800 on a good shooting O/U, but those prices may not be in the range you want.
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My favorite handling "cheap" shotgun is the Winchester 1300, they just fell right IMO.
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I like my mossberg 835 better than the 870's.
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Find a good used Remington 870. The newer ones can't hold a candle to the older pre-freedom group guns
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I've had a Winchester ranger for 15+ years. Yes I like a nice O/U better but I can beat around his gun around and not feel bad about it.

I'm not a mossberg or Remington fan so of go for the benelli.
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I bought a Nova the first year they were on the market to see how they held up. It has done everything I have asked of it with a smile on my face.

If you decide to go Remington, X whatever on finding an older one. The new ones just don't compare.
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I have a nova and like it a lot. The only thing I did was change the recoil pad from the brick they give you to a nice pad. Was my wife's first shotgun and is now relegated to duck duty as she now has a benelli montefeltro and I shoot an o/u when I'm not in the water. Never had a single problem with it and only paid 325 for it brand new.

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Oh I will add some more to this thread. I bought one "used" in 2002, think it had 2 boxes of shells through it. Shot the shit out of it until I sold it last year. I never had a lick of trouble with it until shells started sticking in the mag tube sometime last year. This was due to me NEVER cleaning it other than wiping it down. So never cleaning a gun and it never having an issue? Good in my book...

(I did start cleaning it every once and a while after that. )
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I have a nova and like it a lot. The only thing I did was change the recoil pad from the brick they give you to a nice pad. Was my wife's first shotgun and is now relegated to duck duty as she now has a benelli montefeltro and I shoot an o/u when I'm not in the water. Never had a single problem with it and only paid 325 for it brand new.

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What pad did you change to? I've been looking at the Limbsaver, but haven't done anything yet.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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While I'm biased toward Beretta when it comes to shotguns I will say that I really love my new old pre Express Remington 870 Wingmaster with a modified bbl.
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Best shotgun that i've ever used was a Franchi I-12 autoloader. I think they are only like $600. Lightweight, doesnt kick too much, very easy to shoulder and shoot.
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You really can't go wrong with an 870 or 500 if you want a pump action, they have been around for ever and EVERYONE owns one.

If you want a semi-auto and are on a budget... Stoeger M2000 is a good gun.. they are under $500, they will shoot hunting ammo(mine sometimes doesn't cycle light ammo, but its my hunting gun) and they just came out with the 3500 model which will shoot 3-1/2" shells.

I have one, and my dad has one.... Both run 100% w/ hunting ammo, my dad's cycles 1oz. target loads, mine will not reliably.. need to go with a light 1-1/8oz load.

If you have the cash to spend... Benelli M2 series of pistols, or the SBE (if you need a 3-1/2" option) are the way to go... they are comfortable as hell... simple as hell inside(easy to maintain)

If you want an O/U... can't help you much on that... We own a Verona LX503 sporting 30" 12ga and my dad has an SKB.

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Mossburg 500

I've killed as many deer, ducks, geese and rabbits with my Mossburg as I have with my 870.

I own several shotties but I grab the Mossburg before the others unless I am breaking clays.

YMMV
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Thanks for the info guys. I was looking at spending up to 500 but hopefully don't need to spend that much.

Now I know the 870s have the super mag that will shoot 3 1/2s, how important is having that? Or would a regular express which shots 3ins be okay? Though if I get the 870 in the regular black I don't think it's much more for the super mag.
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Old 12-14-2011, 04:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Not this again...

half the people will say Mossberg and the other half will say Remington.

My shotgun was my first gun and I did a lot of researching and talking to people in the know and the local gunsmith (ex special forces guy). I ended up going with the Mossberg 500 that came with 3 barrels (28" VR bead sight, 24" VR fiber optic sight turkey, and 24" cantilever rifled slug barrel). I can do everything with the gun and it has not let me down yet.
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3 1/2's are for duck and goose hunting. If you don't hunt alot of goose/duck I wouldn't worry too much about 3 1/2's.

What are you planning to use this shotgun for anyway??




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Thanks for the info guys. I was looking at spending up to 500 but hopefully don't need to spend that much.

Now I know the 870s have the super mag that will shoot 3 1/2s, how important is having that? Or would a regular express which shots 3ins be okay? Though if I get the 870 in the regular black I don't think it's much more for the super mag.
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...sorry

Re-read your original post.

Multi-barrel shotties will be your best bet.

The 887 is a great waterfowl gun for cheap that shoots 3 1/2's but it is not a great slug gun.


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I searched for a few months and ended up buying a Benelli Super Nova. Have had it for a year now and love it. Not one problem to speak of. Shoots very well and is easy to tear down for cleaning. So another vote for the Benelli.
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I love Benelli autoguns, they have no equal. In a pump gun, I would rather have a Mossberg, and I hate Mossbergs.

I second the recommendation on finding a pre cerberus 870.
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What pad did you change to? I've been looking at the Limbsaver, but haven't done anything yet.
Well I went a different route than most. I bought mine before much was available and could find nothing for mine (20ga). I ended up popping the pad out of the stock and epoxying a piece of uhmw inside the stock flush with the end. Then I just got a limbsaver grind to fit and went that way.

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Thanks for the info guys. I was looking at spending up to 500 but hopefully don't need to spend that much.

Now I know the 870s have the super mag that will shoot 3 1/2s, how important is having that? Or would a regular express which shots 3ins be okay? Though if I get the 870 in the regular black I don't think it's much more for the super mag.
The only thing I ever use 3 1/2 is turkey, when you have a stubborn Tom at 45 yards the extra 1/2" is nice. Also, if you cant bring in (calling) or down a duck or goose with a 3" shell, find another hobby.
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