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Old 12-17-2011, 04:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Mosin Nagant

I know there have been a few threads on these recently but I didn't want to hi-jack them. I have been looking at getting a cheap rifle lately (stevens 200, savage axis, m14) as a tack driver/coyote/maybe deer gun. I realize everything I am looking at is not going to be an awesome competition level gun even with money thrown at them. The local shop has the Nagant on for $110 right now and ammo is $14.50 for 20 new, $20 for 20 soft point, or $290 for 880 corrosive which are pretty good prices for being north of the border.

Just wondering if I should go this way since the gun is really just going to be for fun on the range and possibly a little hunting. I realize it is overkill for coyotes but I have heard to just use fmj and it's fine. I still have my Mossberg 500 with slug, regular and turkey barrel.
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Did you honestly just mention an M14 in a post asking about a MN as a cheap rifle?


If you can get an M14 in even the same neighborhood pricewise as a MN up there in kanukistan, then jump on that shit with a quickness.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I love mine, especially the one i cut down. It didnt really affect accuracy at the distances i shoot at (300yds tops) and made it tons more portable. If its legal for you to modify one in that way id recomend it.
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kwrangln - cheap as in sub $400 (Norinco M14 is $390)

I think I can cut it down, I have to double check the rules. I know shot guns can be cut down to 18.5"

Edit: Restricted - rifles and shotguns that have been altered by sawing or other means so that their barrel length is less than 457 mm (about 18 inches) or their overall length is less than 660 mm (about 26 inches)

good to go for cutting down to 18"

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kwrangln - cheap as in sub $400 (Norinco M14 is $390)

I think I can cut it down, I have to double check the rules. I know shot guns can be cut down to 18.5"


Fawk, import laws suck ass.
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It is illegal to import Polytech/Norincos into the US.

A used one, in good shape will bring 800$ here.
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Oh crap, that sucks. There was just a deal on for a case of ammo (1600 rounds?) and M14 shorty for $850 here. Also can get norinco AR15's for $675 and Sig knock off for $350
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Yeah we can import all the cheap Chinese crap tools and shit but not decent stuff like guns.
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The China import ban must not apply to shotguns? I bought a 870 knockoff recently.
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I think I just hi-jacked my own thread.

So the consensus is hell ya go with the Nagant for $110? Should I add optics to it for coyotes or go with iron sights (at least for now). Also, would it be worth going with the ATI monte carlo stock for $75 or man up and use the steel butt plate.
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I picked up my MN because it was $50 with 40 rounds of ammo, didn't know a thing about em, but a $50 rifle is a $50 rifle so why not.

It's a lot of fun to shoot and I'm glad I picked it up, but since you can pick up a Norinco for so cheap, I'd grab that in a heartbeat. I prefer semi-auto for everything, but that's just me. Well, that and I learned to shoot rifle with an M14 so it holds a special place in my heart.
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I think I just hi-jacked my own thread.

So the consensus is hell ya go with the Nagant for $110? Should I add optics to it for coyotes or go with iron sights (at least for now). Also, would it be worth going with the ATI monte carlo stock for $75 or man up and use the steel butt plate.
Buy the Mosin. Then as soon as you can buy the M14.
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Buy the Mosin. Then as soon as you can buy the M14.
yup, don't have a rifle yet (just shotgun and .22) so want to get one asap but don't have a huge budget as my wife is on maternity leave. I think I may be getting a $100 gift card for the gun shop for Christmas too.

M14's are always available so not worried about missing out on them. They even have digital camo ones out now

Is there any issue with using corrosive ammo in these aside from making sure to clean them right away? 880 rounds is way more than I need but for the price it's a good deal.
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On the corrosive ammo, i just flush mine out good with a can of non chlorinated brake cleaner. Maybe a 1/3rd can. Then i spray the bolt off for good measure. I tested this method on my m44, no corrosion at all after 2 months... i did nothing else to clean the gun.
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So can someone point us "Mosin noobs" to a down and dirty what the fawk to look for in a used Mosin link?

All this talk of Mosin Nagants lately have me considering one now...
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So can someone point us "Mosin noobs" to a down and dirty what the fawk to look for in a used Mosin link?

All this talk of Mosin Nagants lately have me considering one now...

It's fairly simple really.

Does it have a barrel?
Does it have a stock?
If you cycle the bolt and pull the trigger does it go "click"?

If so and it's >$75, buy it, buy ammo, and shoot it as much as your shoulder will allow.

If it doesn't shoot very well, hang it over the mantle and buy another following the same criteria.

Repeate as necessary. You'll have a blast (literally) in the process.






Or, you could type "mosin" into the search, find a metric crapton of info, and start reading, we've posted a lot of MN stuff in the OSR forum already.
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Ok, so clearly the MN is loved and I am going to grab one, but... Any one hunt with one and if so what do you hunt and at what distance.
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I have not hunted with any of mine yet, i will be next week though. Im using the brown bear 203 grain softpoints, accurate enough out to 300yds for me.
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Is there any issue with using corrosive ammo in these aside from making sure to clean them right away?
The primers contain chlorates, which burn down to clorides (salt), which attract moisture and cause rust. Oil based solvents don't dissolve salt well, so it's best to clean with water to wash the salt out. Hot soapy water down the bore followed by some wet patches. Wipe down the bolt face and breech area. The dry it off followed by a regular cleaning and oiling.
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So typically how long to properly clean a Nagant after firing corrosive ammo. I will probably pick up some surplus ammo for when I will be shooting a lot and some new stuff for hunting/popping off a few rounds
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