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XRRA · 03-22-2012, 03:05 PM

I must say I loved shooting my Grandpa's Colt 1911 as a kid, treated it like crap and it never gave me a second of grief. I am sure it was a big $$$ weapon. Well now many years later I have picked up the weapons bug, great hobby.

I have ended up with a couple of 1911's one an American Classic, yeah go ahead and flame away, the other an SA Compact. We won't even talk about the AC, however I paid a few $$$ for the SA plus a few hundred more in rounds to "break it in". Loved the way it shoots, hate the way it jams....... Talked to the Range Master, he shows me his CCW a Kimber 1911 compact. He tells me it took 500 plus rounds before he could count on it. Thats crap if you ask me? I want out of the box ready to go, never an issue kinda like my G23 but not a 2 x 4.

I am all about the 45 round but not willing to spend big $$$ to have a full size, heavy ass, and too nice to drop on the ground weapon. My question is what direction to go next??? What dose PBB have to say about the HK45? Pass on the Glock, What else should I be looking at?

Thanks all.

jettscott · 03-22-2012, 03:07 PM

My USP .45 has been flawless. There's a little info here: /forum/outdoor-sports-recreation/1054124-my-osr-edumacationing-1911s.html

aloharover · 03-22-2012, 03:09 PM

Sig P220

TheRedHorseman · 03-22-2012, 03:12 PM

Glock 21

XRRA · 03-22-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jettscott

My USP .45 has been flawless. There's a little info here: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1054124

Read it, thanks. I understand 1911, they are all that if you pay $$ and don't drop it in the dirt. For the money, fun, reliability and not at 2 x 4 is the HK all that?

XRRA · 03-22-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRedHorseman

Glock 21

Got one,(23) love it. Feels like crap in my hand.

TheRedHorseman · 03-22-2012, 03:30 PM

Glock 21SF then.

The dark side shall not be given up so easily.

XRRA · 03-22-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aloharover

Sig P220

Why?

HILMAN76 · 03-22-2012, 03:37 PM

I love my Xd-45 compact, I put some XS Big dot sights on it. It has always gone bang and never ever had a hiccup.

TheRedHorseman · 03-22-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by XRRA

Why?

All the capacity of a 1911, and all the size of the Glock 21.

Though the single action only target version (elite?) is pretty pimp.

jettscott · 03-22-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by XRRA

Read it, thanks. I understand 1911, they are all that if you pay $$ and don't drop it in the dirt. For the money, fun, reliability and not at 2 x 4 is the HK all that?

Glock 20/20C!

I like the HK, but I have big hands, as in, I wear a XXXL motorcycle glove. If a person has smaller hands, I wouldn't recommend the .45. It is a full sized pistol, without a doubt. I trust it, I'd carry it anywhere. I traded a XD for it and didn't look back, but the mags for it are spendy and it has a good bit of heft to it. It has fired all the different types of ammunition I have run without a hiccup. I'm thinking around 2-3K total. FMJ, HP... most reputable brands, more than half the round count has been milsurp fmj. Zero issues. I"ve run it clean, dirty, muddy, and everything except mud in the barrel. It's my pistol to take when I know that I'm going to get really dirty.

I have no complaints and hopefully, I'll swap out to a threaded barrel and get a can for it.

beefdawg · 03-22-2012, 04:00 PM

I have 2 SA's, a milspec and and a Trophy Match. Some of the SA are pretty tight when they leave the factory, lube it up and try a different brand of ammo. The milspec did not like the WWB stuff when new, so I change brands and after about 500 rounds it shoots without a hiccup.

Go out and shoot it. by the way, the SA's come with a full lifetime warrantee. Give 'em a call.

XRRA · 03-22-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jettscott

Glock 20/20C!

I like the HK, but I have big hands, as in, I wear a XXXL motorcycle glove. If a person has smaller hands, I wouldn't recommend the .45. It is a full sized pistol, without a doubt. I trust it, I'd carry it anywhere. I traded a XD for it and didn't look back, but the mags for it are spendy and it has a good bit of heft to it. It has fired all the different types of ammunition I have run without a hiccup. I'm thinking around 2-3K total. FMJ, HP... most reputable brands, more than half the round count has been milsurp fmj. Zero issues. I"ve run it clean, dirty, muddy, and everything except mud in the barrel. It's my pistol to take when I know that I'm going to get really dirty.

I have no complaints and hopefully, I'll swap out to a threaded barrel and get a can for it.

Not a chance on a G20. The HK didn't feel that big to me? What was the issue you had with the XD to trade it off?

XRRA · 03-22-2012, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HILMAN76

I love my Xd-45 compact, I put some XS Big dot sights on it. It has always gone bang and never ever had a hiccup.

Compared to what? Why?

XRRA · 03-22-2012, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRedHorseman

Glock 21SF then.

The dark side shall not be given up so easily.

Love it, 2 X 4. I will look again at the SF. Thanks

XRRA · 03-22-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by beefdawg

I have 2 SA's, a milspec and and a Trophy Match. Some of the SA are pretty tight when they leave the factory, lube it up and try a different brand of ammo. The milspec did not like the WWB stuff when new, so I change brands and after about 500 rounds it shoots without a hiccup.

Go out and shoot it. by the way, the SA's come with a full lifetime warrantee. Give 'em a call.

The one I have is a compact, "they say" that is part of my problem. That's a lot of $$$ to put into a weapon before you start to trust it. The SA web site mentions original owner warrantee??

jettscott · 03-22-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by XRRA

Not a chance on a G20. The HK didn't feel that big to me? What was the issue you had with the XD to trade it off?

Wouldn't group as well as I wanted it to. I could pick it up and do ok, but I could pick up the Glock next to it and do much better, same with a revolver, same with another Glock, same with a 1911.

No matter what I did, the XD would not hold a group as well as another pistol. I'm 100% sure it wasn't me either. This went on for a week or more. I had enough and swapped it for the HK. Might have been the one bad pistol they've ever made, but it left me not wanting another.

XRRA · 03-22-2012, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jettscott

Wouldn't group as well as I wanted it to. I could pick it up and do ok, but I could pick up the Glock next to it and do much better, same with a revolver, same with another Glock, same with a 1911.

No matter what I did, the XD would not hold a group as well as another pistol. I'm 100% sure it wasn't me either. This went on for a week or more. I had enough and swapped it for the HK. Might have been the one bad pistol they've ever made, but it left me not wanting another.

That's fair.

What did you pay with trade value for the Hk total?

HILMAN76 · 03-22-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by XRRA

Compared to what? Why?

I just love my Xd compact 45 pistol, I have nothing to compare it too. The only other 45 I ever shot was a modified Colt Gold Cup 45, that would not be fair to compare it to my Xd, the Colt Gold Cup was one Sweeeeeet shooter!

papabear · 03-22-2012, 07:04 PM

CZ97 http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-97-bd/

04 rocko taco · 03-22-2012, 07:22 PM

I nkow I know, flame away, but I'd look at the RIA 1911. They cannot be beat for the money for a entry level 1911. and it is milspec, so all of the great aftermarket parts can be dropped in as well.

Just expect to pick up a $350 RIA 1911, put $1000 of parts it over a couple of years, and still only have a $400 RIA.

Norm · 03-22-2012, 07:29 PM

I have a Kimber Ultra, no jams ever and worth the price tag. My next choice would probably be a SIG.

There is a lot of good 1911's built now days in the reasonable price range, and lots of people know how to make them run.

Fishslayer · 03-22-2012, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 04 rocko taco

Just expect to pick up a $350 RIA 1911, put $1000 of parts it over a couple of years, and still only have a $400 RIA.

Or buy the Tactical & not have to fuck with it...

....and where are you guys finding these $350 1911s?

fj40john · 03-22-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by papabear

CZ97 http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-97-bd/

You are my hero for the day. CZ97 is a big gun. I dig it.

mtnkid85 · 03-22-2012, 07:55 PM

Fn FNP-45

I cant help you with personal experience but, the Tactical gives me a chubby like the Karris guns thread.

03-22-2012, 03:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
XRRA Granite Guru Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51633 Location: East Tenn Posts: 502	Ok done did the 1911 thing I must say I loved shooting my Grandpa's Colt 1911 as a kid, treated it like crap and it never gave me a second of grief. I am sure it was a big $$$ weapon. Well now many years later I have picked up the weapons bug, great hobby. I have ended up with a couple of 1911's one an American Classic, yeah go ahead and flame away, the other an SA Compact. We won't even talk about the AC, however I paid a few $$$ for the SA plus a few hundred more in rounds to "break it in". Loved the way it shoots, hate the way it jams....... Talked to the Range Master, he shows me his CCW a Kimber 1911 compact. He tells me it took 500 plus rounds before he could count on it. Thats crap if you ask me? I want out of the box ready to go, never an issue kinda like my G23 but not a 2 x 4. I am all about the 45 round but not willing to spend big $$$ to have a full size, heavy ass, and too nice to drop on the ground weapon. My question is what direction to go next??? What dose PBB have to say about the HK45? Pass on the Glock, What else should I be looking at? Thanks all.

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HILMAN76 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Member # 156237 Location: state of confusion? Posts: 990	I love my Xd-45 compact, I put some XS Big dot sights on it. It has always gone bang and never ever had a hiccup. __________________ ><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º> Last edited by HILMAN76; 03-22-2012 at 03:41 PM.

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beefdawg vayacondios Join Date: Feb 2007 Member # 87698 Location: nor cal Posts: 1,274	I have 2 SA's, a milspec and and a Trophy Match. Some of the SA are pretty tight when they leave the factory, lube it up and try a different brand of ammo. The milspec did not like the WWB stuff when new, so I change brands and after about 500 rounds it shoots without a hiccup. Go out and shoot it. by the way, the SA's come with a full lifetime warrantee. Give 'em a call. __________________ ---- 80 cjunk7, with stuff--SOLD new build... 90 yjunk, longer, wider, more stuff, fasten your seat belt, it makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your rig ---- NRA LIFE MEMBER ----

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04 rocko taco FNG Join Date: Jan 2008 Member # 107615 Location: Foothills of Tennessee Posts: 614	I nkow I know, flame away, but I'd look at the RIA 1911. They cannot be beat for the money for a entry level 1911. and it is milspec, so all of the great aftermarket parts can be dropped in as well. Just expect to pick up a $350 RIA 1911, put $1000 of parts it over a couple of years, and still only have a $400 RIA. __________________ -Chris There is a pirate outside of the OSR?

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Norm Poor White Trash Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4387 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 1,875	I have a Kimber Ultra, no jams ever and worth the price tag. My next choice would probably be a SIG. There is a lot of good 1911's built now days in the reasonable price range, and lots of people know how to make them run. __________________ "My Border Collie is smarter than our president"

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mtnkid85 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19373 Location: I dont know but Id rather be outside! Posts: 1,446	Fn FNP-45 I cant help you with personal experience but, the Tactical gives me a chubby like the Karris guns thread. __________________ [CENTER]When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. -Jimi Hendrix[/CENTER] [QUOTE=steveh;7244017]Keep it on track guys. DRM and I will be watching. We need our TG paychecks ...... [/QUOTE]

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