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Old 04-23-2012, 10:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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surplus gun ?

ok i know i have not posted here in a long time and i also know that i should search but i just need a quick answer and i know yous guys are the shit at answering them.
so i got this dodge pickup for sale for 1000 dollars and some dude wants to trade me his " collection" of wwii rifles i know ones a mosin ones a yugo m24? and a enfiled i just wont to know if its a good deal or not

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Old 04-23-2012, 11:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Depends, how many does he have? And how much do you need the Dodge?
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The enfield might be worth something, but the other two are $100 guns.
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The enfield might be worth something, but the other two are $100 guns.
so Mosin only makes a $100 gun, in any condition?? without model numbers and conditions no one can answer the question, but models can at least get a closer ballpark answer.


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Meh, it's just a Dodge.
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The enfield might be worth something, but the other two are $100 guns.
Depends. Not all Mosins are Big 5 specials.

Here's a some good sources of info on Roosky milsurps.

http://forums.gunboards.com/

http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdis...osin-Nagant-HQ

http://7.62x54r.net/
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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mosin engineering is far superior to dodge engineering

I would take the deal
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The M-N is worth around $100, the Mauser is worth around $200, and the Enfield can range between $200-$400. (Basic values, sight un-seen, with no information)

How bad of shape is your Dodge in?

Do you actually WANT any of those guns?
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the dodge is nice best shape have acually seen for a truck this age starts right up drives arund 100% orginal

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the dodge is nice best shape have acually seen for a truck this age starts right up drives arund 100% orginal

An M44 Sniper? Did those actually exist in the wild? How well does that work?

It's a little hard to value the Mauser from the pic. Yugos lag behind German in collectability. All matching would make it more valuable than $200.

Unless I am off on my values you need to tell him to throw in another gun to get to $1000
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Hard to say without getting a good look at them but the 3 rifles are worth about $750 in good condition IMO. Not sure what scope that is or what it is supposed to go on. Is any ammo included?
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Is that even a Mauser with a straight bolt handle?

And that short MN is interesting especially if it goes with whatever scope thing that it.
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Hard to say without getting a good look at them but the 3 rifles are worth about $750 in good condition IMO.
Not even. I'd value at $600.
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An M44 Sniper? Did those actually exist in the wild? How well does that work?
Is that actually a carbine? Looks the same length as the Mauser?

If it's a carbine I believe it would be an M38 (no bayo) which is a bit more rare than an M44.

EDIT: Or is there a bayo & I just can't see it?
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Not even. I'd value at $600.
How much are #4 Enfields going for in good condition these days? I was thinking $400+ just for that one.
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How much are #4 Enfields going for in good condition these days? I was thinking $400+ just for that one.
Don't know, but it's worth about $300 to me.
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O, and in my humble opinion, you can count on every single one of those guns only growing in value. Can you say the same for your truck?

Hell....the last batch of M44s I bought for, if I remember right, were $79-$89 EACH......dammit if I shouldn't have ordered another couple dozen and kept them! This was only about 2 years ago. They're now going for double that. How much were Enfields a couple years ago?
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might be a small ring '96 mauser with that straight bolt? idk. in any case, i'm with Johann on this one... get him to through in another old gun for the deal.
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Mosin is a m38 yugo is a 48 enfild is a 3
Just called him and he has no ammo
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Just called him and he has no ammo
I'm 99% sure the Yugo M48 had a bent bolt, just like the std K98. Mine does at least.

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I'm 99% sure the Yugo M48 had a bent bolt, just like the std K98. Mine does at least.

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I'd have to check my "big book of mausers" to run down the details of yugos but note that the stock does not have the scallop out under the bolt arm that usually goes with the turn down bolts of the WWII K98s. IIRC WWI bolts and stocks were config'd this way. Not sure when yugos changed.

Course it could be a parts gun thrown together with mixed lineage parts like mine.
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The Mauser is an M24/47. They are plentiful and worth about $200 in today's market. The "accessory pack" with sling and bayonet sells for about $35ish. I have one that I haven't shot yet, but from what I hear they are nice. They were originally M24s that were reconditions at about the same time the M48s were being made. M48s were put into service and the M24s were re-stamped M24/47 and put straight into storage for WWIII.

The Mosin looks like a non-reconditioned M38. That gun has the potential to be a $350 gun or a piece of shit. Even if it's a piece of shit it's probably worth $100-$150. M38s are just not that common anymore. I currently have an M44 and an M91/59 and I really enjoy the carbine Mosins. Cheap ammo, stout kick, BIG fireball usually.

AFAIK there is no scoped Mosin carbines. That scope is worth something, if it's in good shape, but I have no idea what without getting a better look at it and doing some research.

I really don't know much about Enfields so, that's all I got. I tend to agree with everyone else though, unless you WANT these guns, it's not a deal in your favor.

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The Mosin looks like a non-reconditioned M38.
You are right. I missed that there was no bayo mounted on the barrel.
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