Wax slugs

[MT4Runner]

Anyone ever try this?
How to make your own Wax Slugs for Shotguns - YouTube

Results:
Lost Arts Part 3- Wax Slugs - YouTube

I might try some....and shoot the first ones with about 30' of string on the trigger.

[Gozuki]

I like it. Keeps the shot spread at nil until impact.

[LucasFury]

That's badass. Never seen it before.

Sounds awesome too.

[mulletmaster]

That guy also has a video on cut shells which are supposed to similar to slugs but cost much less.

[87manche]

genius.

I still have some wax .38 target loads in the basement. They've got to be 50+ yeas old. They appeared to be just canning wax.

[aloharover]

So I guess we use this for OSR Challange #3?

[SCOTTS_4X]

Cut slugs are a little more dangerous because you're adding diameter to the load going down the barrel. where with a standard round you have a wad and the shot inside that's sized correctly to go down the bore, with the cut slug you now have the diameter of the whole shell trying to squeeze down through the forcing cone and out the bore. How dangerous is it Idk? Lots of people do it, just something to think about.

-scott

[MT4Runner]

Originally Posted by aloharover

So I guess we use this for OSR Challange #3?

That was what I was thinking!

I just wanted some OSR feedback beforehand.

I made 24 last night. I cut the first 5 like he did, then cut the remainder on the inside of the crimp so the case rollover would still be there for smoother feeding and to keep the wad down in place.

Originally Posted by SCOTTS_4X

Cut slugs are a little more dangerous because you're adding diameter to the load going down the barrel. where with a standard round you have a wad and the shot inside that's sized correctly to go down the bore, with the cut slug you now have the diameter of the whole shell trying to squeeze down through the forcing cone and out the bore. How dangerous is it Idk? Lots of people do it, just something to think about.

Wax slug shouldn't though. Wax slug diameter should be about the same as a saboted slug.

[aloharover]

I see a really good weekend project with all those 100rd boxes of wally world 25$ ammo I have

[aloharover]

Originally Posted by MT4Runner

That was what I was thinking!

I just wanted some OSR feedback beforehand.

I made 24 last night. I cut the first 5 like he did, then cut the remainder on the inside of the crimp so the case rollover would still be there for smoother feeding and to keep the wad down in place.

yeah I was thinking about trying to remove less of the crimp.

If you had a shotshell reloader I wonder if you could pull out the crimp. Make the wax slug, then recrimp.

Also wonder if you could just pour wax into the open end of the shell without removing the shot first.

Also need to tyr this on some #4 and 00

[MT4Runner]

Originally Posted by aloharover

I see a really good weekend project with all those 100rd boxes of wally world 25$ ammo I have

Exactly what I used. Low brass slugs. They were $4 or $4.50 a box of 25 on Black Friday, so I bought 4 or 5 bricks of 100.

Originally Posted by aloharover

yeah I was thinking about trying to remove less of the crimp.

If you had a shotshell reloader I wonder if you could pull out the crimp. Make the wax slug, then recrimp.

Also wonder if you could just pour wax into the open end of the shell without removing the shot first.

Also need to tyr this on some #4 and 00

The hull softens slightly when the wax is hot. running them through the shotshell reloader wouldn't be a bad idea, either, since you can resize the case to make sure it's perfectly round.

I don't think there would be much benefit to #4 or 00, but you'd want to shoot gel or water to see how well or poorly the wax/lead stays together. I am sure it would be fatal to a biped or quadruped...it would be nice to know if it would make a mess of the meat on a quadruped.

[LiLBucket]

Originally Posted by MT4Runner

That was what I was thinking!

I just wanted some OSR feedback beforehand.

I made 24 last night. I cut the first 5 like he did, then cut the remainder on the inside of the crimp so the case rollover would still be there for smoother feeding and to keep the wad down in place.



Wax slug shouldn't though. Wax slug diameter should be about the same as a saboted slug.

I think using them in the OSR challenge adds to the spirit!!!

I'm wondering though about the rolled part being left there. I'm thinking that this may strip some of the wax and deform the slug as it's forced to unroll the lip. This may make a conical shape, which may be an added bonus, or it could start breaking up sooner and void the slug effect. Just thinking out loud...

Originally Posted by aloharover

I see a really good weekend project with all those 100rd boxes of wally world 25$ ammo I have

Yup....I'm probably gonna wait to see what I have left over from Dove season (always have SOMETHING) and make a few and test/play. I'll be using the Saiga....

[thedonn007]

I know that cut shot us not allowed for deer hunting in my state.

[MT4Runner]

Originally Posted by mulletmaster

That guy also has a video on cut shells which are supposed to similar to slugs but cost much less.

Originally Posted by SCOTTS_4X

Cut slugs are a little more dangerous because you're adding diameter to the load going down the barrel.

Originally Posted by thedonn007

I know that cut shot us not allowed for deer hunting in my state.

Should we start another thread on cut slugs?

IMHO, they're similar, but different enough for a separate discussion's sake.

[Diesel Smoke]

Cool idea, but I don't know WTH I'd do with them? I still want to try.

[redpitbull44]

Coyotes are my first thought. If you can get em in close enough. Hogs. Be cheap hog bustin ammo.

[aloharover]

Accurate to 50yrds.
Cheap 12g ammo
Practice
Possible HD

All seems good

[77bawls]

Originally Posted by aloharover

Also wonder if you could just pour wax into the open end of the shell without removing the shot first.

I was thinking the same thing. The only thing you would have to watch out for is the wax hardening on the first few layers of cold shot causing it not to flow down to the wad. If you can get it all the way down to the wad it should be fine.

[trkklr77]

wouldnt these just turn your barrel into a waxy disgusting cluster fuck of powder wax and garbage?

[spork2367]

Originally Posted by trkklr77

wouldnt these just turn your barrel into a waxy disgusting cluster fuck of powder wax and garbage?

someone didn't watch the video...

[trkklr77]

maybe im thinking of carnuba wax then.

[04 rocko taco]

Can't see the video at work, but definitely marking this thread for viewing at home, I think I have about 4-500 of those low buck shells from walmart.

[MT4Runner]

Originally Posted by aloharover

Accurate to 50yrds.
Cheap 12g ammo
Practice
Possible HD

All seems good

There was another video of a guy shooting a gong at 200yd?! and hit 3 out of 6.

I wouldn't call it "accurate", but it definitely shows the range possible...you can't get near that with regular bird shot.

Originally Posted by 77bawls

I was thinking the same thing. The only thing you would have to watch out for is the wax hardening on the first few layers of cold shot causing it not to flow down to the wad. If you can get it all the way down to the wad it should be fine.

Hmm..

Melting point of paraffin wax is 120-160ºF. Yeah, I googled it.

If you could get the shells up to 140-ish (safely), you could easily pour the paraffin in and get it down to the wad before it hardens.

[WillyPete]

Originally Posted by aloharover

Accurate to 50yrds.
Cheap 12g ammo
Practice
Possible HD

All seems good

Why not just buy a used MEC 600 jr and a melting pot and a mold?

I've made back the money I spent on all that stuff after loading 2,000 rounds.

This seems to have about the same level of labor involved with casting and reloading slugs.

[77bawls]

Originally Posted by MT4Runner

Melting point of paraffin wax is 120-160ºF. Yeah, I googled it.

If you could get the shells up to 140-ish (safely), you could easily pour the paraffin in and get it down to the wad before it hardens.

What's the flash point of powder? With black hulls you could probably get close to that just by leaving them out in the sun.