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usmcdoc14 · 02-13-2005, 05:55 PM

or the ones you build yourself

i think a G3 might be a next project to build

Hef · 02-13-2005, 05:58 PM

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or the ones you build yourself

i think a G3 might be a next project to build

Build a G3KA4. It's sooooooo cool.

animator · 02-13-2005, 06:03 PM

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Build a G3KA4. It's sooooooo cool.

If only I could find someone who had a collapsable stock available, I'd be getting one for my CETME. Original wide HK front grips are in the works too

Hef · 02-13-2005, 06:05 PM

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If only I could find someone who had a collapsable stock available, I'd be getting one for my CETME. Original wide HK front grips are in the works too

I saw the A4 stock for the HK91/G3 on Gunbroker a while back. They wanted $400 for it NIB.

animator · 02-13-2005, 06:18 PM

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I saw the A4 stock for the HK91/G3 on Gunbroker a while back. They wanted $400 for it NIB.

Just noticed over on Florida Gun Works, they've got them back in stock for $330 roughly. I think that's still a bit pricey, and I know I've seen them on other sites for less. I'm keeping my eye out...

Aron82 · 02-13-2005, 07:33 PM

http://www.interordnance.com/index.shtml
has German G-3 kits avaliable with the colapsible stock. I would not want one personaly. The Choate sidefolder is well built, like anything from Choate. I don't like the idea of a folder on a .308. Whenever I shoot my .308s, either the Saiga or the CETME I shoot from the shoulder and make fairly well aimed shots. With My AK's I will make more shots and they aren't usualy placed as carefully.
Gil your build looks to be taking shape nicely, I don't know if I like the style or not, but it will be unique. The front grip really does help keep the barrel rise down when you run a clip through fast. It should be really nic3e when it is done. I use a pair of calipers when measuring for the holes on the front and rear trunion. If you haven't drilled the rivets out in the rear trunino yet, wait it is easier to drill throught the receiver and the trunion together.

Global trades is now making 1mm receivers to compliment their 1.6mm receivers. if you have a milling machine it was no big deal to take .6mm off the fornt and rear trunions, but most of us don't. I should post a couple of pics of my Bulgarian 74 and AMD-63. I will if I get time. Have fun with the build.

usmcdoc14 · 02-13-2005, 07:48 PM

nope, no front vert grip. i am using a galli(sp) style front fore end. this gives plent of handroom when running 30 round mags.
already made templates for the rear trunnion and will make them for the front (and show how here) when i space it corrctly in the reciever.

I already ordered 2 ohio ordanance recievers because of the praise i have heard and also thier very good heat treating.
That and i got sick of waiting for the 1.6 recievers to be ready

Aron82 · 02-14-2005, 09:18 AM

I have 2 rifles built on OOW receivers a 74 and a 47. I have built 4 or 5 AKs with this receiver for myself and friends. They work well, the only small gripe I have with them is the selector lever gap, which is noticable, but only to those who know what they are looking for. You do have to take quite a bit of material off of the selector lever as well, but you can get a really tight safty fit if you grind and check slowly.

usmcdoc14 · 02-14-2005, 11:49 AM

what area needs grinding or what should i look out for when i come to that point

Aron82 · 02-15-2005, 12:14 PM

You have to grind down the end of the tab, so it will engage the back of the trigger to block the trigger from moving and thus the safty is on. I will see if I can find a picture. It takes a while and you basicaly grind an check with a dremel.

animator · 02-15-2005, 05:21 PM

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update for today while waiting on the recievers:

peep (ghost ring) sights are few and far to choose from for AK's. all the ones i have found are eather too low or way to fawking pricey ...or both

welcome to the free AK47 peep sight

I looked on the floor till i found a piece of steel, drilled a small hole in it, ground the old sight blade flat, welded it on. then i drilled it out till i got a hole size that made my eyes happy

dremeled it till i was happy with the shape.

That's really cool. Do something like that on a rear windage adjustable sight and I'd buy one from ya

usmcdoc14 · 02-15-2005, 05:38 PM

send me one..or two

and i will do it for you.
just tell me what size apature you want

animator · 02-15-2005, 05:40 PM

I just might have to do that...

ForestCam · 02-15-2005, 05:41 PM

You're not done with this yet?

usmcdoc14 · 02-15-2005, 05:44 PM

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You're not done with this yet?

I am waiting for the recievers taint licker

i should .."should" be able to finish them this week.

srv8800 · 03-25-2005, 05:18 PM

would gun shows have parts kits? anything special to look for when choosing a parts kit or are they all the same for each variant? awesome thread btw

ChiefSlapaHo · 03-25-2005, 05:44 PM

BTW, Gil.. the package has been delivered from our southern conection. Sweet! Ammo came today, I'll be slinging led tomorrow! Oh, the grip came as well.. you'd think it was Chistmas all over again!

usmcdoc14 · 03-25-2005, 05:50 PM

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BTW, Gil.. the package has been delivered from our southern conection. Sweet! Ammo came today, I'll be slinging led tomorrow! Oh, the grip came as well.. you'd think it was Chistmas all over again!

remember you have to switch the grip lug at the top to use the included screw or you just have to get a screw in the same thread as my block in the leingth as the one for your new grip.

oh because i fawked up this thread and didnt document the finishing of the build i force myself to maybe buy a few more parts kits

ohh the horror

I will have to bribe 85TrailToy and his brother with something for recieving the recievers if they will do it again

ChiefSlapaHo · 03-25-2005, 07:06 PM

I remembered that..

Picked up a Vanguard case. Just awaiting the red dot and it will be compete.

usmcdoc14 · 03-25-2005, 07:09 PM

sweeet

btw how well do those mags work? and you have my 4 right

ChiefSlapaHo · 03-25-2005, 07:20 PM

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sweeet

btw how well do those mags work? and you have my 4 right

Give you an update tomorrow.. might wake the neighborHOOD and surrounding counties

WHAT 4 MAGS??

85TrailToy · 03-25-2005, 08:19 PM

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I remembered that..

Picked up a Vanguard case. Just awaiting the red dot and it will be compete.

Damn that is schweeet! Figures you're shooting tomorrow, I'll be heading north in the morning.

You need to come over to Inigoes and see the junk I'm working on.

usmcdoc14 · 03-25-2005, 08:30 PM

next weekend will be LOTs O' shootin at todds house

Hef · 03-25-2005, 08:57 PM

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next weekend will be LOTs O' shootin at todds house

Poor bastard. Who's going to fix all the fawking holes in the house when you're done?

usmcdoc14 · 04-26-2005, 08:14 PM

well there will be an update realy soon on how to mark the drilling holes for the trunnions and other details

Thats right, now i am building 2-3 (or more

) full size AK's for me

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02-13-2005, 07:48 PM	#32 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,150	nope, no front vert grip. i am using a galli(sp) style front fore end. this gives plent of handroom when running 30 round mags. already made templates for the rear trunnion and will make them for the front (and show how here) when i space it corrctly in the reciever. I already ordered 2 ohio ordanance recievers because of the praise i have heard and also thier very good heat treating. That and i got sick of waiting for the 1.6 recievers to be ready __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

02-14-2005, 11:49 AM	#34 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,150	what area needs grinding or what should i look out for when i come to that point __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

02-15-2005, 05:38 PM	#37 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,150	send me one..or two and i will do it for you. just tell me what size apature you want __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

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02-13-2005, 07:33 PM	#31 (permalink)
Aron82 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3000 Location: Seeley Lake, Montana, United States Posts: 441	http://www.interordnance.com/index.shtml has German G-3 kits avaliable with the colapsible stock. I would not want one personaly. The Choate sidefolder is well built, like anything from Choate. I don't like the idea of a folder on a .308. Whenever I shoot my .308s, either the Saiga or the CETME I shoot from the shoulder and make fairly well aimed shots. With My AK's I will make more shots and they aren't usualy placed as carefully. Gil your build looks to be taking shape nicely, I don't know if I like the style or not, but it will be unique. The front grip really does help keep the barrel rise down when you run a clip through fast. It should be really nic3e when it is done. I use a pair of calipers when measuring for the holes on the front and rear trunion. If you haven't drilled the rivets out in the rear trunino yet, wait it is easier to drill throught the receiver and the trunion together. Global trades is now making 1mm receivers to compliment their 1.6mm receivers. if you have a milling machine it was no big deal to take .6mm off the fornt and rear trunions, but most of us don't. I should post a couple of pics of my Bulgarian 74 and AMD-63. I will if I get time. Have fun with the build.

02-14-2005, 09:18 AM	#33 (permalink)
Aron82 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3000 Location: Seeley Lake, Montana, United States Posts: 441	I have 2 rifles built on OOW receivers a 74 and a 47. I have built 4 or 5 AKs with this receiver for myself and friends. They work well, the only small gripe I have with them is the selector lever gap, which is noticable, but only to those who know what they are looking for. You do have to take quite a bit of material off of the selector lever as well, but you can get a really tight safty fit if you grind and check slowly.

02-15-2005, 12:14 PM	#35 (permalink)
Aron82 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3000 Location: Seeley Lake, Montana, United States Posts: 441	You have to grind down the end of the tab, so it will engage the back of the trigger to block the trigger from moving and thus the safty is on. I will see if I can find a picture. It takes a while and you basicaly grind an check with a dremel.

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ChiefSlapaHo Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2694 Location: In my FreightShaker Posts: 2,766	BTW, Gil.. the package has been delivered from our southern conection. Sweet! Ammo came today, I'll be slinging led tomorrow! Oh, the grip came as well.. you'd think it was Chistmas all over again!

03-25-2005, 07:06 PM	#44 (permalink)
ChiefSlapaHo Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2694 Location: In my FreightShaker Posts: 2,766	I remembered that.. Picked up a Vanguard case. Just awaiting the red dot and it will be compete. Attached Images

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usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,150	sweeet btw how well do those mags work? and you have my 4 right __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

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usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,150	next weekend will be LOTs O' shootin at todds house __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

04-26-2005, 08:14 PM	#50 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,150	Update Soon well there will be an update realy soon on how to mark the drilling holes for the trunnions and other details Thats right, now i am building 2-3 (or more ) full size AK's for me Attached Images __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

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