ATTN EOTech owners: cheap ass lever locking system - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

usmcdoc14 · 03-10-2006, 06:48 PM

After getting my EOTech in I decided it would be nice to have a lever type mount for quick removal should it get killed so I can go quickly to iron sights.
I did not want one of the "see-threw" ones as who the fuck needs the EOTech mounted higher? the only one I found was one by GG&G shown here>

It is pimp and nice but at the $90 price tag It was stretching my spending limit. And then I looked at the mount and went "I could build that fucker for less than half that"

well I did... a LOT less

Go to your local mountain bike place and ask for the markdown spindle lock thigies for wheels or the seat post locks. I got 2 ultra lightweight aluminum ones for $15 (so I could mess one up) and went to work.
First take them apart. Mine were just screwed together with some killer lock-tite so I baked them in the oven at 500* first to break the bond. they cane apart with ease. Here it is after I sand blasted the bligity chrome finish off them.

Next I went and countersunk the center pivot for the socket head screw. It is the one on the right.

Now on the subject of socket head screws:
Your EOTech is threaded 6-32.I mocked mine up using a stainless screw at first. It worked great for mock-up but is utterly worthless, spend the cash on real screws. I got mine from bolt depot and i HIGHLY recommend them. They shipped QUICK !! here is a link to the alloy steel ones: http://www.boltdepot.com/product.asp...&cm=25&cd=1218
I had to trim down the 2.5 inch ones for my application.

I used the plastic "saddle" thing from mine that goes under the lever. I trimmed it thinner and it was perfect.
Next I mocked it all up and marked where the lever hits the EOTech base and notched it

This is to keep it from rotating (more on this later)
When you put it all together put the lever in the LOCKED position and tighten the screw THE SAME WAY you would normally tighten the factory one. Snug it up and a 3/4 turn. This way it is as tight as factory and you are not overtorquing the mount. I put lock-tite on it so it will not tighten or loosen.

and when done

It does not appear to stick out much further than the GG&G mount. Under the lever you can see the black plastic trimmed down "saddle"

and how the locking notch works here

Now If i notice the little bugger rotates or moves I will make a base for it just like the GG&G mount but I will mill it out of aluminum scrap (note when I say "mill" I really mean "attack with the dremel tool"

) and have it work exactly the same as theirs. I will also need longer hood screws as i will make counter sunk holes just like GG&G.

Questions? comments?

oh and price
$15 for 2 levers so $7.50
we will say $5 for screws counting shipping

labor consisted of me sitting on my butt watching the history channel

you do the math

usmcdoc14 · 03-10-2006, 06:50 PM

Oh ya. This will be Dura coated with te rest of the FAL

Triaged · 03-10-2006, 07:56 PM

Back to your best firearms work

Now go checker the front strap on that 1911

usmcdoc14 · 03-10-2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Triaged

Back to your best firearms work

Now go checker the front strap on that 1911

fuckers give me shit for using a "plastic" light rail on a 1911 but no one jumps in my ass for using a bicycle part for a high-speed/low-drag optics mount.

I think I am gonna random stipple the frontstrap of the 1911 just to piss someone off, or a "snake skin" pattern with an endmill

Triaged · 03-10-2006, 08:26 PM

From the few pics I have seen of stippled guns the ones done with a few different size/shape punches looked the best. Ones that were done using only 1 center punch didn't look anywhere near as good to me.

Personally I think I'm going to go with the grip tape route till I can fork over the $$$ to have it checkered (and night sights put in, and a mag well, and ambi-safety, and...)

usmcdoc14 · 03-11-2006, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Triaged

From the few pics I have seen of stippled guns the ones done with a few different size/shape punches looked the best. Ones that were done using only 1 center punch didn't look anywhere near as good to me.

Personally I think I'm going to go with the grip tape route till I can fork over the $$$ to have it checkered (and night sights put in, and a mag well, and ambi-safety, and...)

Just Hurculiner the front strap

aloharover · 03-11-2006, 08:41 AM

Wow. That is awsome. Wonder if I can do a quick release for my AR scope...hmmmm.

Are you using an MRE box for a work table?

Since you have the FAL and camera out, how about snapping a clear detailed shot of where the gas tube meets the gas block

Pete

usmcdoc14 · 03-11-2006, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by aloharover

Wow. That is awsome. Wonder if I can do a quick release for my AR scope...hmmmm.

Are you using an MRE box for a work table?

Since you have the FAL and camera out, how about snapping a clear detailed shot of where the gas tube meets the gas block

Pete

it dont care what it locks. If you grabbed a smaller lever like one for a seat post clamp it would work fine

ya give me a sec for the pic

usmcdoc14 · 03-11-2006, 09:22 AM

both sides

now stop hi-jacking my thread

hoohaa · 03-11-2006, 11:42 AM

Great gun tech. I love PBB for that.

You found a really nice alternative there. It looks like a factory made part (intended to be used with the EOtech that is).

usmcdoc14 · 03-11-2006, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoohaa

Great gun tech. I love PBB for that.

You found a really nice alternative there. It looks like a factory made part (intended to be used with the EOtech that is).

Its cheap bastard gunsmithing

most of us on this board have that shit down pat

the good thing is we dont have any butt-hurt purists here, thats why i dont go to many of the AR forums.
Those fuckers would rather spend the $90

aloharover · 03-11-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

Those fuckers would rather spend the $90

Fawk that. 90$ and the change under the sofa and I got another Romy kit

usmcdoc14 · 03-11-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aloharover

Fawk that. 90$ and the chang eunder the sofa and I got another Romy kit

I would not recommend keeping your illegal Asian sex slaves under the couch as they will get used to being in "masters space". Its best to keep them in the garage.

hoohaa · 03-11-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

I would not recommend keeping your illegal Asian sex slaves under the couch as they will get used to being in "masters space". Its best to keep them in the garage.

Good call on the AR and AK sites being loaded with "purists" though. Didn't take long for me to realize that.

LordRatner · 03-11-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

it dont care what it locks. If you grabbed a smaller lever like one for a seat post clamp it would work fine

ya give me a sec for the pic

Hmmm, you know, that might be a nifty idea, since my EOTech is shorter.

Can you pick up one of those shorter levers? Like I said before, tell me the cost and I'll paypal it to you.

Oh, and I dug out my Night Vision, and the non-nightvision version works A-ok.

Hell, the lowest setting on my 511 is too fucking hard to see without NVG

usmcdoc14 · 03-11-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LordRatner

Hmmm, you know, that might be a nifty idea, since my EOTech is shorter.

Can you pick up one of those shorter levers? Like I said before, tell me the cost and I'll paypal it to you.

Oh, and I dug out my Night Vision, and the non-nightvision version works A-ok.

Hell, the lowest setting on my 511 is too fucking hard to see without NVG

your armor hood is the same size as mine, only the battery case is longer. I would recommend the larger lever as it would be easier to grab but if you want a smaller one I will keep my eyes open

and if you could measure where your hood end to where the battery box ends i could see if the longer one would work.

LordRatner · 03-11-2006, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

your armor hood is the same size as mine, only the battery case is longer. I would recommend the larger lever as it would be easier to grab but if you want a smaller one I will keep my eyes open

and if you could measure where your hood end to where the battery box ends i could see if the longer one would work.

Inches, and I'd prefer the longer one, if it will work. You're a gun magician, thanks man, even if I do apparently hate WWII vets

usmcdoc14 · 03-10-2011, 12:58 PM

Bump for chit-chat mods to move to the OSR

pleeeeease

Entropy · 03-10-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

Bump for chit-chat mods to move to the OSR

pleeeeease

Ta-dah!

LiLBucket · 03-10-2011, 01:14 PM

sonofabitch how did I miss this!??!

TTis will be perfect on my FAL/Eotech/PVS-14 !!!

THanks doc!

usmcdoc14 · 03-10-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Entropy

Ta-dah!

sorry the only thing I can send to your forum is crap

aloharover · 03-10-2011, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

sorry the only thing I can send to your forum is crap

As long as the crap gets band do we care?

Entropy · 03-10-2011, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

sorry the only thing I can send to your forum is crap

No problem. Handling crap is my job.

kwrangln · 03-10-2011, 02:35 PM

Here's part deux...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...highlight=deux

It's got links to both of Doc's lever threads in the first post, along with the pics.

03-10-2006, 06:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,166	ATTN EOTech owners: cheap ass lever locking system After getting my EOTech in I decided it would be nice to have a lever type mount for quick removal should it get killed so I can go quickly to iron sights. I did not want one of the "see-threw" ones as who the fuck needs the EOTech mounted higher? the only one I found was one by GG&G shown here> It is pimp and nice but at the $90 price tag It was stretching my spending limit. And then I looked at the mount and went "I could build that fucker for less than half that" well I did... a LOT less Go to your local mountain bike place and ask for the markdown spindle lock thigies for wheels or the seat post locks. I got 2 ultra lightweight aluminum ones for $15 (so I could mess one up) and went to work. First take them apart. Mine were just screwed together with some killer lock-tite so I baked them in the oven at 500* first to break the bond. they cane apart with ease. Here it is after I sand blasted the bligity chrome finish off them. Next I went and countersunk the center pivot for the socket head screw. It is the one on the right. Now on the subject of socket head screws: Your EOTech is threaded 6-32.I mocked mine up using a stainless screw at first. It worked great for mock-up but is utterly worthless, spend the cash on real screws. I got mine from bolt depot and i HIGHLY recommend them. They shipped QUICK !! here is a link to the alloy steel ones: http://www.boltdepot.com/product.asp...&cm=25&cd=1218 I had to trim down the 2.5 inch ones for my application. I used the plastic "saddle" thing from mine that goes under the lever. I trimmed it thinner and it was perfect. Next I mocked it all up and marked where the lever hits the EOTech base and notched it This is to keep it from rotating (more on this later) When you put it all together put the lever in the LOCKED position and tighten the screw THE SAME WAY you would normally tighten the factory one. Snug it up and a 3/4 turn. This way it is as tight as factory and you are not overtorquing the mount. I put lock-tite on it so it will not tighten or loosen. and when done It does not appear to stick out much further than the GG&G mount. Under the lever you can see the black plastic trimmed down "saddle" and how the locking notch works here Now If i notice the little bugger rotates or moves I will make a base for it just like the GG&G mount but I will mill it out of aluminum scrap (note when I say "mill" I really mean "attack with the dremel tool" ) and have it work exactly the same as theirs. I will also need longer hood screws as i will make counter sunk holes just like GG&G. Questions? comments? oh and price $15 for 2 levers so $7.50 we will say $5 for screws counting shipping labor consisted of me sitting on my butt watching the history channel you do the math Attached Images __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

03-10-2006, 06:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,166	Oh ya. This will be Dura coated with te rest of the FAL __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

03-10-2006, 07:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Triaged Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5110 Location: SoCal Posts: 4,677	Back to your best firearms work Now go checker the front strap on that 1911 __________________ Link to thread on my calculator http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204893

03-10-2006, 08:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Triaged Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5110 Location: SoCal Posts: 4,677	From the few pics I have seen of stippled guns the ones done with a few different size/shape punches looked the best. Ones that were done using only 1 center punch didn't look anywhere near as good to me. Personally I think I'm going to go with the grip tape route till I can fork over the $$$ to have it checkered (and night sights put in, and a mag well, and ambi-safety, and...) __________________ Link to thread on my calculator http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204893

03-11-2006, 08:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
aloharover lets go Squatchen Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14561 Posts: 15,866	Wow. That is awsome. Wonder if I can do a quick release for my AR scope...hmmmm. Are you using an MRE box for a work table? Since you have the FAL and camera out, how about snapping a clear detailed shot of where the gas tube meets the gas block Pete __________________ Want to know how I lost 25lbs in 9 weeks? Try INSANITY®. www.beachbodycoach.com/petermhope I love it when a plan comes together Colorado Springs, CO Based FFL-07/SOT

03-11-2006, 09:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,166	both sides now stop hi-jacking my thread Attached Images __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

03-11-2006, 11:42 AM	#10 (permalink)
hoohaa Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 55546 Location: Dallas Posts: 932	Great gun tech. I love PBB for that. You found a really nice alternative there. It looks like a factory made part (intended to be used with the EOtech that is).

03-10-2011, 12:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,166	Bump for chit-chat mods to move to the OSR pleeeeease __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

03-10-2011, 02:35 PM	#24 (permalink)
kwrangln Doublewide engineer Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6971 Location: Gulf coast Posts: 5,904	Here's part deux... http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...highlight=deux It's got links to both of Doc's lever threads in the first post, along with the pics. __________________ I'm the "tack tack tack" welding nazi. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showp...&postcount=218 "I didn't mean to kill nobody ... I just meant to shoot the sonofabitch in the head. Him dying was between him and the Lord." R. L. Burnside

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