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Old 05-17-2006, 07:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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*the official* SHTF bag thread

This is the official SHTF bag thread (shit hitting the fan) as I only found one other thread on it with nothing really worth reading.
This is for an "emergency" bag that would require your weapon. Its the bag you grab on the way out the door with your gun in a SHTF situation.

This could be but not limited to:
Natural disasters
search and rescue situations
hostile takeovers (non-office building)
hostile takeovers (office building)
ATF raid
UFO abduction

The bag usually consists of what would be needed for 2-3 days of unassisted survival gear and gear to assist with long term survival. This is not a "creature comfort" bag, this is the shit you NEED vrs the shit you would like to have.

so post up your bags, ideas, contents and any links that would help someone out.

right now I have one of these
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=249179

loaded with:
9 30round AK or FAL mags loaded
2 field stripped MREs
simple first aid kit with suture material and hemostats
replacement fire control group parts for weapon
2 quarts water
water purification tablets
"leatherman" tool
50 large black zip-ties

This is just the basic shit. I will update as I add.
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Old 05-17-2006, 07:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You forgot "civil uprising".

I have one and I don't even live in LA. I don't tote water, it's everywhere. I have a bottle with a built in filter. A few first aid things, handheld gps. No food, easy to find. A rifle can acquire about anything else I'd need.
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Old 05-17-2006, 07:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ya know, I might need to toss together somethign like this. I have a LARGE kit for the house (3 hockey style totes) but nothing that is realy "grab and go" lightweight and easy to take on a moments run.

*ponders*

3 MRE striped and packed
4 clips .32auto loaded
2 speedloaders k-frame .357
4 1q water packets
K-bar
100 rounds .270 balstic tip 150grain
1 roll ducttape
1 roll electrical tape
50' climbers rope.
20 zip ties.

*edit* looking at doc's list, I should add a small field trama kit, something light but able to handle 2-3 wounded/wounds.

That should just about do it. now, question is, what kinda bag to put it in, I like the one you have Doc, but it looks bulky.
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Condoms.

If there's one thing I learned in High School, it's that you should always have condoms with you. It never fails, no matter what situation you're in, you always run the risk of "bumping into" a hottie, and condoms are a must for survival in this day and age.



Actually, I would add a pocket knife to the bag. I know the leatherman has one built in, but it seems like I can either never find a knife when I really need one, or I'll do something stupid and break the blade. They're small and relatively cheap, I'd keep at least one extra in there.
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Condoms.
Actually that's a pretty good point.

Jumbo, unlubricated condoms. Anyone want to make a guess on the intended use?
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Actually that's a pretty good point.

Jumbo, unlubricated condoms. Anyone want to make a guess on the intended use?
1)carry water
2)Place handgun into for water crossing
3)makeshift sterile gloves

the list goes on and on.
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Actually that's a pretty good point.

Jumbo, unlubricated condoms. Anyone want to make a guess on the intended use?
Smuggling coke into the US inside your Mexican poolboy's ass?
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I have one of those bags from when I was on the Dept, keep it in my truck. For us they're called 10-33 bags
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I would add an AM/FM/SW radio and lithium batteries and/or a solar charger. It might be nice to know what the general state of things were in other parts of the world , as you might have to lay low. Also a cheapy cigarette lighter, and I would take a water purifier rather than tablets. Tablets are going to have a hard time making stagnant pond water drinkable. I have the Sweetwater Microfilter in my 4x4 at all times. Also a rain poncho might be good if you couldn't move to better shelter. And a lightweight spotting scope, (if not on rifle).
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Overbear was right with the carry water(in a handkerchief or bandanna).
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I called it my 72 hour kit.
400 rnds 300x 7.62x51 100x .45 ACP
first aid kit
6 MRE's
clean dry socks and jersey gloves in a big ziplock bag
btl of water purification Tablets
Compass
Poncho
Wind up flash light and radio
2 canteens
blow up air mattress
Lifeboat matches
K-Bar
3 season sleeping bag
Loaded into a large ALICE pack.
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Let me start with a few links

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com (lots of first-aid and survival items)
http://www.saratogatradingcompany.com (food stuffs, water, kits, etc)

I have stuff for a larger emergency if I need to travel with the wife, 2 kids (5yr and 7mo) and the cat, otherwise I am prepared to sit it out here at home. I do risk assessment for a living and in general I am in an okay location away from natural disasters and Tier 1 to Tier 3 terrorist targets.

I have a case of MREs for travel otherwise we keep our pantry stocked.

I have a large backcountry backpack with:

- A small 12"x12" bag I have a water purifier pump (not a simple filter, but a real back country purifier), 2 emergency blankets, 4 candles, matches, small knife, soap, 25ft small rope, sewing kit, chem-lights, hand and body warmers, carbiners, figure-8 decender, nylon webbing with stitched loops to make sling or climbing harness, poncho

- A 12x15 bag that has small lantern and 2 cans of gas for it, mantels, matches, tiny MSR Whisperlite stove (will burn gasoline, white gas, kerosine) , minimal cooking gear.

- A small 2 man tent that will work for all of us, at least while the kids are small.

- Camelback

- GPS

- Leatherman

- Small hunting knife in case on outside of pack, more rope in external pouches, loose inside pack are small plates, cups and cutlery.

I can easily access any of these items to take individually or the whole backpack.

I have another backpack with a '3-day individual kit' in it that work gave all of us -> http://saratogatradingcompany.com/gr..._hour_kit.html

I have a small first aid kit for on the go, otherwise I have a large kit for the home but it is portable in a backpack method or via grab handles. The big one has stuff to handle everything from bug bites, burns, splinting, sutures, cuts, scraps, and more. Eye and ear flushing solution, iodine, antiseptic, compression bandages, hemostats, stethoscope, scalpel, scissors, non-latex gloves, several packs of sutures, surgical wire, all totalling about 200 peices. I might not know how to use it all, but if I can't figure it out in a dire emergency I might be able to find someone that can and I will have the stuff for them to help (voluntarily or not).

Weapons include but may not be limited to: Springfield .45 ACP with several 10 round mags and extra ammo, S&W .357 with extra ammo, KBar knife.

I have three large Czech military surplus blankets ready to go, a large mulitple person tent sitting ready as well.

Its all setup to be scalable depending on the situation.

I am really considering stocking up on the food and water from the Saratoga Trading Company though, and if I never need it, I can start eating before it expires or donate it all to a homeless shelter and then restock.
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I'de add (to doc's list):

compass
topo and street map of the area
small flaslight - optional red lense cover would be good too.
basic rain gear
change of socks
Rambo sized knife

I wouldn't bother with the GPS, first it requires batteries, second an EMP would take it out or potentially the satellites that support it. So you better know how to use a compass.

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I have a compass and know how to use it. I doubt EMP would effect satellites though... also, dont you know that as long as the batteries are out of the GPS you can just change out the solenoid to get it to run?
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My SHTF basic load:

Camelbak Motherload
2 field stipped MRE's
6 liters of H2O
Leatherman Wave tool
Kershaw skinning knife
Kershaw pocket knife
1000 rounds of .223 (roughly)
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I've been trying to get a few people to stand in front of my Airsoft for $100 but haven't had any takers yet. Destroying cinder blocks at 100 yards made 'em think twice
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For crying out loud… If shit hits the fan, you all are going to get shit all over all of your cool toys and accomplish nothing.

If shit hits the fan, I want:

2 (pr) Rubber Gloves (to keep the shit off my hands)
12 Rolls of Brawny Paper Towels
6 Heavy Duty Wash Clothes
1 Spray bottle filled with a 50/50 Bleach/Water solution
2 Bottles of Resolve Carpet Cleaner
1 Bissel Steam Cleaner
1 Heavy Duty Wet/Dry Vac
6 Good quality and Heavy Duty Sponges
1 5 Gallon Bucket
3 Cans of Endust Electronics Cleaner
1 Large package of Cotton Swabs
1 Can of Febreeze
1 Good sized box or oscillating fan
1 Bottle of Good Ammonia based Glass Cleaner
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For the perpetrator of this particular crime:
1 Sobe Bottle (empty) with cap
1 bottle of good rubbing alcohol
1 large container of Vaseline

Because if someone were to be responsible for getting shit anywhere near a fan in my house, I'd shove that Sobe bottle, filled with alcohol up their ass using a little Vaseline to get it good and stuck up there as far as I could get it... then I'd kick them in the fucking ass until the son of a bitch broke, cut the inside of their asshole to hell, and dumped all that fresh alcohol for a refreshing enema.
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I'm ready at anytime. My visa check card never leaves my pocket and it that quits I have a $100 in my wallet.
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I'm ready at anytime. My visa check card never leaves my pocket and it that quits I have a $100 in my wallet.
Cash is definately something that one should have in fair abundance once the banks and telecomm/electrical infrastructure are damaged. However, if the S REALLY HTF, then cash might not be worth anything either.
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I'm ready at anytime. My visa check card never leaves my pocket and it that quits I have a $100 in my wallet.
fuck credit cards and fuck cash

ammo = cash

either by trading rounds or "trading rounds"
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I don't have a SHTF bag, but I have an action packer box that is my go to box. It is small enough to fit in the floor of my truck or back seat of a car.

The contents vary depending on what time of year and what activities I am doing.

There are several things that are always in the box.
First Aid kit
knife
Matches and lighter
AA mag light
Toilet Paper in a zip lock
AA and D batteries
Fork
screw driver, pliers, misc other tools
MRE
Socks
box of 9mm, 22 lr, 7.62x39, and a few 12 ga rounds

Then it varies depending on what I am doing and the weather. This is more of an outdoor survival box instead of a SHTF box. Contents change according to where I am going and what I am doing.
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