Duracoating guns is fun - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

usmcdoc14 · 12-22-2006, 06:27 PM

and addictive

This is the CETME I refinished and sold to Grendel

Done in flat black

I was bored so I did pretty much everything

And now my FAL is 90% complete

all I have to do is finish my carbon fiber full float handguard and duracoat that and its done

the "shiny" by the top cover screws are stainless lockwashers. I did not feel like nor see a point in coating them

usmcdoc14 · 12-22-2006, 06:28 PM

hey wtf is with the hosted images showing now?

TheRedHorseman · 12-22-2006, 06:31 PM

Looking good.

What rear sight is that on the FAL?

usmcdoc14 · 12-22-2006, 06:31 PM

I aluminum oxide blasted everything. I found that the little gravity fed blaster from Harbor Freight worked better than my pressurized blaster (its also on sale right now as is 25lbs of aluminum oxide media)
Next is my Bersa and 1911

usmcdoc14 · 12-22-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRedHorseman

Looking good.

What rear sight is that on the FAL?

Tall Israeli L1A1, it matches the hight of the open ear front

cybergeek23851 · 12-22-2006, 07:02 PM

The wood is looking good Doc. Save a basket case for me to teach you with

kodiak1232003 · 12-22-2006, 07:06 PM

looks great, doc!

hey, could you use the same stuff on a revolver? i'm looking at sp101's, but i kinda would like it to be a cool drab green, or matte color, rather than the shiny steel color

usmcdoc14 · 12-22-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kodiak1232003

looks great, doc!

hey, could you use the same stuff on a revolver? i'm looking at sp101's, but i kinda would like it to be a cool drab green, or matte color, rather than the shiny steel color

yup, don't see why not. I have no clue how it would handle the blowby at the front of the cylinder. Its pretty tough shit.
http://www.lauerweaponry.com/

TheTacoKid · 12-22-2006, 07:30 PM

That looks very nice. I haven't tried the duracoat yet but heard great things about it in the firearms community. Keep me posted on how it holds up.

PONY_DRIVER · 12-22-2006, 07:55 PM

Looks good. Ever try Norells Moly Resin?

usmcdoc14 · 12-22-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTacoKid

That looks very nice. I haven't tried the duracoat yet but heard great things about it in the firearms community. Keep me posted on how it holds up.

I am gonna wait a week or so before I shoot anything but I will post up.

mike · 12-22-2006, 08:02 PM

Nice work dude, this makes me ponder duracoating the slide of my XD

usmcdoc14 · 12-22-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mike

Nice work dude, this makes me ponder duracoating the slide of my XD

tomorrow I am blasting and coating everything on the Bersa (prepping it for CCW) and the 1911. black slides and levers and WWII O.D. green frames

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That OD green is "correct", it does not look funny.
Oh and the colors on the duracoat web site are pretty accurate

mike · 12-22-2006, 08:08 PM

Awesome, lookin' forward to pics...

Aces'n'8s · 12-22-2006, 08:29 PM

I take it Duracoat, not the enamel stuff, drys in the open...as opposed to baking in an oven?

usmcdoc14 · 12-22-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces'n'8s

I take it Duracoat, not the enamel stuff, drys in the open...as opposed to baking in an oven?

its an epoxy of sorts, the solvents evaporate off and then it slow cures. you can "speed it up" by low temp (125* or so) baking for an hour.But it still gets more set with age

animator · 12-23-2006, 12:02 AM

The longer duracoat sits, the harder it gets. When we built AKs, we did duracoat finishes. I let mine hang dry for a week before finishing the build and firing it. Some of the rifles from our build are still hanging in the garage "drying", nearly a year later

How did you like building on a Century receiver for the FAL?

usmcdoc14 · 12-23-2006, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by animator

How did you like building on a Century receiver for the FAL?

its a "widow's peak" brow (made sure of that, will explain in a sec to those that have no clue) and the fit and finish is fine. Hell the fucker has less machining marks and casting flash than most coonan ones and even some DSA ones

The barrel timed fine, the threads were crisp, even the fucking gaping to the other parts is perfect.
You just have to pay attention to what you buy.

Ok for those that are not FAL addicts: Century has a knack of making either nice guns or fucking turds but you can fix a century turd if you know what to look for in ANY of their guns.(FAL,CETME,AK)
The century fals you want to look at th "brow" the area right where the rounds glide off as soon as they come out of the magazine. There is the "unibrow" that is just a square chunk and the "widows peak" that looks like a smooth lower case "w". The unibrow ones, like men with them, will not get much action

The rounds feed like ass as they bounce off this area. It can be fixed but is a pain in the ass just due to the limited space to get a dremel in there. It is best to start with a "widows peak" one as they feed much better.
Also you need to look at "timing" or the clocking of the barrel in relation to square with the receiver. As this will affect your shooting.
More in a bit as I have to take a dump

usmcdoc14 · 12-23-2006, 06:53 AM

now back on the "clocking".
If a weapon is clocked (same with a Century AK) if it is a lot it wil bind, if its a little you will run out of sight adustment before you can even get it on paper.

4x4mechanic · 12-23-2006, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

now back on the "clocking".
If a weapon is clocked (same with a Century AK) if it is a lot it wil bind, if its a little you will run out of sight adustment before you can even get it on paper.

So how does taking a dump affect clocking on a FAL? For that matter, how does it affect the adhesion of Duracoat?

PONY_DRIVER · 12-23-2006, 07:34 AM

Quit posting and go to the range.

I'm leaving in 5 mikes.

usmcdoc14 · 12-23-2006, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PONY_DRIVER

Quit posting and go to the range.

I'm leaving in 5 mikes.

I called your cell fucker

call me back or some shit. what range?

usmcdoc14 · 12-23-2006, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 4x4mechanic

So how does taking a dump affect clocking on a FAL? For that matter, how does it affect the adhesion of Duracoat?

You don't want to rush Duracoating, just like you don't want to rush a dump

PONY_DRIVER · 12-23-2006, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

I called your cell fucker

call me back or some shit. what range?

It stays in the truck.

6025 marvin Rd
Virginia Beach, VA 23457

Boheefus · 12-23-2006, 07:51 AM

man, I have to walk all the way outside to go shootin...

12-22-2006, 06:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,139	Duracoating guns is fun and addictive This is the CETME I refinished and sold to Grendel Done in flat black I was bored so I did pretty much everything And now my FAL is 90% complete all I have to do is finish my carbon fiber full float handguard and duracoat that and its done the "shiny" by the top cover screws are stainless lockwashers. I did not feel like nor see a point in coating them Attached Images __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

12-22-2006, 06:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,139	hey wtf is with the hosted images showing now? __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

12-22-2006, 06:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,139	I aluminum oxide blasted everything. I found that the little gravity fed blaster from Harbor Freight worked better than my pressurized blaster (its also on sale right now as is 25lbs of aluminum oxide media) Next is my Bersa and 1911 Attached Images __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

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mike Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 144 Location: Northern Mexico... er.. AriDzona Posts: 6,867	Nice work dude, this makes me ponder duracoating the slide of my XD __________________ That's because you're a pinko fascist. - Haole I know what antidisestablishmentarianist means

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mike Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 144 Location: Northern Mexico... er.. AriDzona Posts: 6,867	Awesome, lookin' forward to pics... __________________ That's because you're a pinko fascist. - Haole I know what antidisestablishmentarianist means

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TheRedHorseman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64421 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 8,195	Looking good. What rear sight is that on the FAL?

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cybergeek23851 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 32841 Location: In the Tanner's house Posts: 1,017	The wood is looking good Doc. Save a basket case for me to teach you with

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kodiak1232003 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44006 Posts: 2,391	looks great, doc! hey, could you use the same stuff on a revolver? i'm looking at sp101's, but i kinda would like it to be a cool drab green, or matte color, rather than the shiny steel color

12-22-2006, 07:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
TheTacoKid Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Member # 72080 Posts: 12	That looks very nice. I haven't tried the duracoat yet but heard great things about it in the firearms community. Keep me posted on how it holds up.

12-22-2006, 07:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
PONY_DRIVER Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44662 Location: In a house! Posts: 3,969	Looks good. Ever try Norells Moly Resin?

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Aces'n'8s Axes of E-ville Join Date: May 2005 Member # 48097 Location: West TN Posts: 3,458	I take it Duracoat, not the enamel stuff, drys in the open...as opposed to baking in an oven?

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animator Rapey Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13701 Location: Plano/Dallas Posts: 4,050	The longer duracoat sits, the harder it gets. When we built AKs, we did duracoat finishes. I let mine hang dry for a week before finishing the build and firing it. Some of the rifles from our build are still hanging in the garage "drying", nearly a year later How did you like building on a Century receiver for the FAL? __________________ Think you're a marksman? Test your skills by joining the 200yd Iron Sight Challenge happening NOW in the OSR Forum: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/outdo...-may-31-a.html

12-23-2006, 06:53 AM	#19 (permalink)
usmcdoc14 Fistful of Boomstick Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13344 Location: Norfawk, VA Posts: 12,139	now back on the "clocking". If a weapon is clocked (same with a Century AK) if it is a lot it wil bind, if its a little you will run out of sight adustment before you can even get it on paper. __________________ Doc-14 Tactical Products: When it absolutely, positively needs to be made from random crap found in the back of my garage. You cant ban knowledge, learn to make your own guns right Here. New York, Colorado, Maryland, Conneticut….is your state next? Yes it is. Write, Vote and Fight.

12-23-2006, 07:34 AM	#21 (permalink)
PONY_DRIVER Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44662 Location: In a house! Posts: 3,969	Quit posting and go to the range. I'm leaving in 5 mikes.

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