Pistol grip or stock 12ga?

[Crash440]

I pick up my Mossberg 500 12ga this week

I need to decide on the grip. I've never shot pistol grip but it felt comfortable in the store. What are the advantages or disadvantages of pistol vs stock grip?

[TheRedHorseman]

A regular pistol grip only setup is damn near worthless, and sells to those who think that they don't have to aim a shotgun at all. They are painful to shoot with anything but birdshot, though watching newbs try to shoot one like a pistol and busting their nose with the back of it is funny.

A stock with a pistol grip on it is handy but sucks on a mossberg due to the fact that you can't reach the safety easily(it's on top of the receiver for some retarded reason). I've got a Choate full stock with pistol grip on my 3 gun mossberg 500, and it shoots great but that safety issue annoys the hell out of me.

[Crash440]

a no aim gun LOL

I wondered about the recoil with that grip. Prob not the set up for me at all. I thought I was being retarded with that saftey in the store Now I feel better

thanks for the info.

[Fisheadgib]

A pistol gripped shotgun does not point well at all. I built tacticle shotguns as sort of a hobby for quite a while and I built quite a few for IPSC shooters and I've messed with a lot of different stock configurations. Whenever someone thought they wanted a pistolgrip stock, they would usually change their mind when I let them compare and shoot it next to a straight stock. I shot IPSC three gun for a number of years and I rarely saw a pistolgrip stock at a match. A straight stock on a shotgun points much more quickly and naturally. A quick way to try it is to pick a target about 30 feet away, hold the unloaded shotgun at your waist, close your eyes and mount the shotgun pointing at the target you picked. Then open your eyes. See which stock allows you to point closest to your target. Shooting against a timer makes it even more noticable.

[Bill4rest]

I put a pistol grip on my moss 500. I hated the fact I could not use the saftey and the pump relese at all. I put the striaght stock back on. I threw that pistol grip stock in the trash

[Crash440]

I did hold the pistol grip at my hip in the store and didn't think I'd like the leverage or lack of. I think I will stick with the stock.

[t0talkos]

Yeah i love my pistol grip, but i would never try to use it for hunting as the barrel is right at 18"....

Tactical only.

And i can shoot high brass out of mine just fine and it doesnt hurt. AND slugs.

[planefixer]

I put one of those cheesey plastic AR-15 style collapseable stocks on my Moss 590 and after shooting it didn't like it very much.I now have the factory stock back on it and gave the AR style one to a buddy to put on his 500.I would recommend the regular stock over a pistol grip any day.

[tonka22]

bought a mossberg 500 12g today for 150 and took it right out and love it there is no way i would try to use a pistal grip

[Crash440]

Originally Posted by tonka22

bought a mossberg 500 12g today for 150 and took it right out and love it there is no way i would try to use a pistal grip

150 Damn, mine was $444.37

[Brain]

Originally Posted by Crash440

150 Damn, mine was $444.37

Was it a 500 or 590? Marine coat? Extra bbls?

If it was a plain 500, I hope they used vaseline.

[Hef]

I've had a 500 with pistol grips front and rear, pistol grip front and collapsible AR stock/pistol grip, and traditional stocks. Each has it's pros and cons, and each is suited to different users and applications.

Pistol grips front and rear are no problem for me. I'm 6', 235 lbs, and have had no issues with that set-up. With an 18" barrel, it's very maneuverable in the hallways of a house. I had no problem with recoil, whether I was shooting buck, slugs, birdshot, etc. I wouldn't do a rear pistol grip without the front, because the front grip gives much more control over muzzle climb than the standard foreend.

The AR rear stock is better, IMO, because it allows you to shoulder the weapon properly, and has a familiar feel to the AR15 rifle. There are a few options in AR stocks for shotguns, but the best is undoubtedly Mesa Tactical. The Mesa Tactical AR stock is quality stuff, but it's expensive ($250 easy), and puts the pistol grip at an unnatural distance from the trigger. The less expensive AR stocks are not as sturdy, and will most likely break in time.

My current home defense set-up is traditional stocks with an 18" barrel. I mounted a light with a pressure pad, a laser, and a 5 round shell carrier to it. I like the feel of traditional stocks, and it doesn't look "evil" (good for my legal defense).

[usmcdoc14]

I have a Knoxx COPstock on mine and is one of the few pistol grips I enjoy to shoot.

I mainly got it because of the top folding design that is used. But as a side note it is also recoil absorbing and saves your wrist and shoulders a LOT.


I can shoot it folded from the hip but I choose NOT to due to how much accuracy you loose. But it can be done easily without fear with even slug rounds.

[tonka22]

it was a 500 k NAd that 150 canadaina and it came with an adjustable chock barrel and a full chocke barell with inlayed wood stock and engraved camber

[usmcdoc14]

Originally Posted by tonka22

it was a 500 k NAd that 150 canadaina and it came with an adjustable chock barrel and a full chocke barell with inlayed wood stock and engraved camber

huh?

[SilverZuk]

Another vote against the pistol grip.
I have shot with and without. I see no practical use for it.

[Crash440]

Originally Posted by Brain

Was it a 500 or 590? Marine coat? Extra bbls?

If it was a plain 500, I hope they used vaseline.

it's a 500 with a.....crap I can't remember the coating but when it's clean it's almost sparkly??

Originally Posted by Hef

My current home defense set-up is traditional stocks with an 18" barrel. I mounted a light with a pressure pad, a laser, and a 5 round shell carrier to it. I like the feel of traditional stocks, and it doesn't look "evil" (good for my legal defense).

This one is 18" with the shell carrier. I will later on get a light mounted. This will be home, personal and critter defense.

[ZJim]

Originally Posted by Crash440

This will be home, personal and critter defense.

Don't forget about Zombies.

[Crash440]

Originally Posted by ZJim

Don't forget about Zombies.

[Crash440]

Originally Posted by Brain

Was it a 500 or 590? Marine coat? Extra bbls?

If it was a plain 500, I hope they used vaseline.

The initial paperwork I have says it's a 500 but the bf said that's wrong, he bought me a 590. This is a late xmas gift

[kodiak1232003]

Originally Posted by Hef

I've had a 500 with pistol grips front and rear, pistol grip front and collapsible AR stock/pistol grip, and traditional stocks. Each has it's pros and cons, and each is suited to different users and applications.

Pistol grips front and rear are no problem for me. I'm 6', 235 lbs, and have had no issues with that set-up. With an 18" barrel, it's very maneuverable in the hallways of a house. I had no problem with recoil, whether I was shooting buck, slugs, birdshot, etc. I wouldn't do a rear pistol grip without the front, because the front grip gives much more control over muzzle climb than the standard foreend.

The AR rear stock is better, IMO, because it allows you to shoulder the weapon properly, and has a familiar feel to the AR15 rifle. There are a few options in AR stocks for shotguns, but the best is undoubtedly Mesa Tactical. The Mesa Tactical AR stock is quality stuff, but it's expensive ($250 easy), and puts the pistol grip at an unnatural distance from the trigger. The less expensive AR stocks are not as sturdy, and will most likely break in time.

My current home defense set-up is traditional stocks with an 18" barrel. I mounted a light with a pressure pad, a laser, and a 5 round shell carrier to it. I like the feel of traditional stocks, and it doesn't look "evil" (good for my legal defense).

my exact setup, minus the laser...works well for me and my wife...i've considered the folding type stocks, but it would only be for size considerations during camping(tentspace) or vehicle carry(trunkspace), etc.

i think my fullstocked gun is very manueverable in my house, but i've practiced quite a bit with the lights off, using only my weapon light or night vision to navigate.

[txapacheguy]

I second those not in favor of the pistol grip only setup. Forgive me if I diddnt scrutinize every comment here, but if you want the pistol grip to have a shorter shotgun, get a folding stock. The top folders probably pack up better, but a side folder will be better to shoot with. Also consider a pistol grip forend to help control the weapon if you do have to shoot it from the folded position. I diddnt gather what you intended to use the weapon for once you modified it, but the regular stock is hard to beat for most applications...

[Hef]

Originally Posted by kodiak1232003

my exact setup, minus the laser...works well for me and my wife...i've considered the folding type stocks, but it would only be for size considerations during camping(tentspace) or vehicle carry(trunkspace), etc.

i think my fullstocked gun is very manueverable in my house, but i've practiced quite a bit with the lights off, using only my weapon light or night vision to navigate.

I don't need the laser, but I had it laying around, so I figured "what the hell", and put it on.

[TheRedHorseman]

Oooooh the 590 is an outstanding choice.

Now get a bayonet for the thing!

[Crash440]

I think I'll pass on the bayonet. and stick with the stock grip.

We should be able to pick it up tomorrow or Friday I cant' wait to shoot it. The last time I shot a shotgun was, um....... 93 or 94. Too long.