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far...right · 02-10-2007, 10:57 PM

1:7 Twist, NATO barrel, 5.56 chamber. Vulcan upper/lower.
Now i just have to find time to shoot it.

TheRedHorseman · 02-10-2007, 11:07 PM

If that's a polymer upper, do not shoot it, they are known for failure, seriously. You do not want a catastrophic upper receiver failure lighting off next to your noggin.

I hope you paid damn near nothing for that thing.

far...right · 02-10-2007, 11:21 PM

well shit, that makes me feel good...

TheRedHorseman · 02-10-2007, 11:26 PM

Hate to be the bringer of bad news man but seriously that thing is bad ju ju.

However on the bright side you've got a good stock and optic there.

TheRedHorseman · 02-11-2007, 06:51 AM

Ok did a bit of research on it, the lowers seem to be OK, not great but they work, they are a low stress part anyway. You should be able to swap out the upper for a standard aluminum one and be good to go. All is not lost, anybody who is competent with ARs can swap your barrel over in about 10 minutes tops.

http://adcofirearms.com/acc/productL...eceivers/Parts
has a3 uppers like yours but aluminum for $110 with all parts, they are really nice uppers. The one I ordered came assembled as well when I ordered the stripped upper and parts kit.

far...right · 02-11-2007, 09:16 AM

thanks man, if you are ever in AR i owe you one.

When i was talking to the guy, i was questioning it, and he kept saying they were tested, yada yada. I guess this is what i get for not doing my homework.

Azzy2000 · 02-11-2007, 09:46 AM

Isnt Vulcan the same manufacturer as Hesse? I know they have changed names several times.

TheRedHorseman · 02-11-2007, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azzy2000

Isnt Vulcan the same manufacturer as Hesse? I know they have changed names several times.

Yes, same dirtbags. Check out their website, they claim that they build "the machineguns of the special forces!"

imwiththebann'd · 02-11-2007, 12:43 PM

you should be able just to swap it out. If you looking for a deal the equiptmetn exchange on ar15.com http://www.ar15.com/forums/board.html?b=7 wouldnt be a bad place to start.

congrats and welcome to the black rifle club

Aron82 · 02-11-2007, 02:09 PM

Avoid Vulcan-Hesse like the plague poor products and god aweful costomer service. They built a bunch of AK receivers and didn't heat treat the ejectors on them.

Azzy2000 · 02-11-2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRedHorseman

Yes, same dirtbags. Check out their website, they claim that they build "the machineguns of the special forces!"

Maybe for the 5th ward special forces... I have heard nothing but bad reports about Hesse and every other name they have used.

animator · 02-17-2007, 08:18 AM

Yeah any company that has to change names every few years to stay in business is never a good choice to go with

Like you, I didn't do any research when I bought my first gun, which was an AK built on a Hesse receiver. It lacked adequate heat treating, and therefore began to prematurely wear in some critical areas.

I took ended up replacing the rails in the receiver, re-welding the trunion to the receiver, and heat-treating everything to make the rifle functional again.

Redmist · 02-17-2007, 08:29 AM

Vulcan = Hesse = junk most of time....

Looks like a nice rifle though.

$200 can fix the vulcan mess. Perhaps get a MEGA Upper and lower.

TheRedHorseman · 02-17-2007, 09:09 AM

Mega, LMT, CMT, Ameetec, Bushmaster, White Oak, hell even DPMS would work just fine.

02-10-2007, 10:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
far...right Follow Chairman Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 35600 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,390 Blog Entries: 5	Newest member of the (mostly) black rifle club. 1:7 Twist, NATO barrel, 5.56 chamber. Vulcan upper/lower. Now i just have to find time to shoot it.

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02-10-2007, 11:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
TheRedHorseman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64421 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 8,192	If that's a polymer upper, do not shoot it, they are known for failure, seriously. You do not want a catastrophic upper receiver failure lighting off next to your noggin. I hope you paid damn near nothing for that thing.

02-10-2007, 11:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
far...right Follow Chairman Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 35600 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,390 Blog Entries: 5	well shit, that makes me feel good...

02-10-2007, 11:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
TheRedHorseman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64421 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 8,192	Hate to be the bringer of bad news man but seriously that thing is bad ju ju. However on the bright side you've got a good stock and optic there.

02-11-2007, 06:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
TheRedHorseman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64421 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 8,192	Ok did a bit of research on it, the lowers seem to be OK, not great but they work, they are a low stress part anyway. You should be able to swap out the upper for a standard aluminum one and be good to go. All is not lost, anybody who is competent with ARs can swap your barrel over in about 10 minutes tops. http://adcofirearms.com/acc/productL...eceivers/Parts has a3 uppers like yours but aluminum for $110 with all parts, they are really nice uppers. The one I ordered came assembled as well when I ordered the stripped upper and parts kit.

02-11-2007, 09:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
far...right Follow Chairman Meow Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 35600 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,390 Blog Entries: 5	thanks man, if you are ever in AR i owe you one. When i was talking to the guy, i was questioning it, and he kept saying they were tested, yada yada. I guess this is what i get for not doing my homework.

02-11-2007, 09:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
Azzy2000 Mr. Personality Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11869 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 4,284	Isnt Vulcan the same manufacturer as Hesse? I know they have changed names several times.

02-11-2007, 12:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
imwiththebann'd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50012 Location: Kirkland, Wa Posts: 365	you should be able just to swap it out. If you looking for a deal the equiptmetn exchange on ar15.com http://www.ar15.com/forums/board.html?b=7 wouldnt be a bad place to start. congrats and welcome to the black rifle club

02-11-2007, 02:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
Aron82 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3000 Location: Seeley Lake, Montana, United States Posts: 442	Avoid Vulcan-Hesse like the plague poor products and god aweful costomer service. They built a bunch of AK receivers and didn't heat treat the ejectors on them.

02-17-2007, 08:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
Redmist Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43646 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,651	Vulcan = Hesse = junk most of time.... Looks like a nice rifle though. $200 can fix the vulcan mess. Perhaps get a MEGA Upper and lower.

02-17-2007, 09:09 AM	#14 (permalink)
TheRedHorseman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64421 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 8,192	Mega, LMT, CMT, Ameetec, Bushmaster, White Oak, hell even DPMS would work just fine.