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usmcdoc14 · 08-23-2007, 03:34 PM

I have noticed a few firearms over the years that serve little to no reason at all. here are some of my opinions and please feel free to post up your own or defend one picked

Calico rifles and pistols

helical 50 and 100 round magazines, whooopty fucking dooooo

a sight picture that is like 4 inches over the bore and a weird balance only to achieve a gun that looks like sex toy for Twiggy from Buck Rogers.

Brugger & Thomet TP9

a $1,250 pistol that does the same as a semi-auto UZI/SMG but with way more tacticool accessories...unless you pop-riveted some extra rails on the UZI

ugly as fuck, hell just get a MP5

The Vindicator belt fed 22

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The only known Belt Fed Semi Auto .22 Carbine on the market today!

Ya, no shit

you ain't vindicating jack shit with that ugly as fuck overpriced TOY

and lastly (this will strike a nerve)
The AR variant PISTOL

unless it is full auto it really serves no point

lets see:
rifle calibers, now you just have a flame thrower
pistol calibers, just buy a fucking pistol

fun to shoot? yup
utterly without a point? yup

I will think of more later

4runner · 08-23-2007, 03:41 PM

the calico does seem pointless until you fire the 9mm in FA...then it is sheer madness...

east_beast · 08-23-2007, 04:04 PM

IMHO, the .17 calibers are pretty damn worthless. Don't get me wrong, they're fun as hell for plinking, but that's about it. My uncle has a little .17 Hornet bull barreled single shot. We usually smoke groundhogs and coyotes off the back deck with the .223 Mini-14 or the .22-250 at distances 75 - 150 yards. Tried to do it with the .17 Hornet. No go. They just look at you pissed off.

usmcdoc14 · 08-23-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 4runner

the calico does seem pointless until you fire the 9mm in FA...then it is sheer madness...

almost EVERY firearm is fun in full auto

when you switch it to "WeHEEEE" that makes any of its retarded features moot

We are in semi-auto pointlessness, stick to the subject

cybergeek23851 · 08-23-2007, 04:25 PM

Oh Gil! Would it be wrong of me to say, anything from Hi-Point?

usmcdoc14 · 08-23-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cybergeek23851

Oh Gil! Would it be wrong of me to say, anything from Hi-Point?

no, they serve a point

the pistols are a benchmark of "cheap" in every meaning of the word. and the carbines actualy work, even if they are butt fugly

Holocene · 08-23-2007, 04:38 PM

.410 gauge AR-15

Only good for getting wrongly kicked off the skeet field...

N_Rod · 08-23-2007, 04:52 PM

Is this thread for semi auto's only ?

usmcdoc14 · 08-23-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by N_Rod

Is this thread for semi auto's only ?

nope, I am pretty sure you can still find sucktacular full autos as well

animator · 08-23-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 4runner

the calico does seem pointless until you fire the 9mm in FA...then it is sheer madness...

plus it made for a really cool "laser gun" in Spaceballs.

PONY_DRIVER · 08-23-2007, 06:39 PM

TP9 is cheaper than an MP5, thus not entirely pointless. That belt fed .22 would be sweet with a crank.

kf4zht · 08-23-2007, 06:49 PM

I knew a guy that loved his calico, but he was entertained by many simple things.

Numidian · 08-23-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Holocene

.410 gauge AR-15

Only good for getting wrongly kicked off the skeet field...

So are you also against the Saiga shotguns?

Napoleon047 · 08-24-2007, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PONY_DRIVER

TP9 is cheaper than an MP5, thus not entirely pointless.

a butt stock and a forward grip on a G17 would be a better investment than the tp9

Doc Holiday13 · 08-24-2007, 06:55 AM

I definately agree with Doc on the AR pistol being completely pointless. That might be why I'm making one. Its absolutely rediculous to have a pistol that shoots rifle rounds that wouldn't do any damage to a target unless you use a really heavy .223 frangible bullet or the bullet starts tumbling because it didn't have enough barrel to stabilize it. But it is badass to pull out one of them with a 30 round clip or a beta mag. I'll probably use it for squirrel hunting

Holocene · 08-24-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Numidian

So are you also against the Saiga shotguns?

Shotgun, no. AR rifle converted to shotgun, well seriously, what's it good for?

How is it better than say a regular semi-auto shotgun?

I see it as a novelty, lacking practicality.

Mo · 08-24-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Holocene

Shotgun, no. AR rifle converted to shotgun, well seriously, what's it good for?

How is it better than say a regular semi-auto shotgun?

I see it as a novelty, lacking practicality.

the saiga shotguns are basically AK shotguns.

TheRedHorseman · 08-24-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mo

the saiga shotguns are basically AK shotguns.

There's no basically about it, they ARE kalashnikov shotguns, made in the same factory that makes the issued AKM and AK74 rifles that the Russian army uses.

Hef · 08-24-2007, 03:36 PM

Intratec TEC-DC9. I had one. It was fun to play with at the range, when it wasn't malfunctioning. I could see no real application for it, outside of range use or arming criminals (I'd be happier than hell if some idiot decided to to use THAT gun to rob me

).

Hef · 08-24-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Holocene

Shotgun, no. AR rifle converted to shotgun, well seriously, what's it good for?

How is it better than say a regular semi-auto shotgun?

I see it as a novelty, lacking practicality.

The USAS-12 is an AR-based full-auto shotgun design. I think it has cool factor, and could possibly find a real-world application.

Numidian · 08-24-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Holocene

Shotgun, no. AR rifle converted to shotgun, well seriously, what's it good for?

How is it better than say a regular semi-auto shotgun?

I see it as a novelty, lacking practicality.

Reload by slamming home a new magazine vs Reloading one shell at time into the tube... Thats got a real advantage doesn't it?

packnrat · 08-25-2007, 07:02 AM

who are you to deside what gun is good and what gun is bad,
are you a menber of brabra boxers front staff?
how about if i do not like your jeep and do not want you to own it?

we here in thr USA enjoy a freedom, called choice.

Holocene · 08-25-2007, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Numidian

Reload by slamming home a new magazine vs Reloading one shell at time into the tube... Thats got a real advantage doesn't it?

Yes, you are right.

Although I doubt .410 would the gauge of choice for a combat shotgun.

Actually I think .410 is caliber, not a gauge, I don't know.

Doc Holiday13 · 08-25-2007, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by packnrat

who are you to deside what gun is good and what gun is bad,
are you a menber of brabra boxers front staff?
how about if i do not like your jeep and do not want you to own it?

we here in thr USA enjoy a freedom, called choice.

So you're saying you think that there aren't any useless guns out on the market??? I don't think that we here are saying these guns shouldn't exist. We are just saying they have no practical purpose. You can't tell me a belt fed .22LR has some sort of practical purpose or that an AR pistol is a great concealed carry gun.

TheRedHorseman · 08-25-2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by packnrat

who are you to deside what gun is good and what gun is bad,
are you a menber of brabra boxers front staff?
how about if i do not like your jeep and do not want you to own it?

we here in thr USA enjoy a freedom, called choice.

You miss the point.

It's not guns that shouldn't be owned, just guns that don't really have a point. You can own them all you want, you'll just get talked about behind your back a lot.

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east_beast Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 377 Location: in the woods Posts: 529	IMHO, the .17 calibers are pretty damn worthless. Don't get me wrong, they're fun as hell for plinking, but that's about it. My uncle has a little .17 Hornet bull barreled single shot. We usually smoke groundhogs and coyotes off the back deck with the .223 Mini-14 or the .22-250 at distances 75 - 150 yards. Tried to do it with the .17 Hornet. No go. They just look at you pissed off.

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Doc Holiday13 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 48233 Location: Northern VA Posts: 3,159	I definately agree with Doc on the AR pistol being completely pointless. That might be why I'm making one. Its absolutely rediculous to have a pistol that shoots rifle rounds that wouldn't do any damage to a target unless you use a really heavy .223 frangible bullet or the bullet starts tumbling because it didn't have enough barrel to stabilize it. But it is badass to pull out one of them with a 30 round clip or a beta mag. I'll probably use it for squirrel hunting __________________ [quote=texasblake;11194923] they may be waving like mccain for the rest of their life, but you taught them an important life lesson and they had fun doing it.[/quote] [QUOTE=xyjbeaker;9759686]"mexican food reminds you of my face?"[/QUOTE] Last edited by Doc Holiday13; 08-24-2007 at 06:56 AM.

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Hef Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11907 Location: Hilton Head, SC Posts: 2,037 Blog Entries: 1	Intratec TEC-DC9. I had one. It was fun to play with at the range, when it wasn't malfunctioning. I could see no real application for it, outside of range use or arming criminals (I'd be happier than hell if some idiot decided to to use THAT gun to rob me ). __________________ State schooling is not about education, but about the state. Gun control is not about guns, it’s about control. A citizen who can fend for himself when the predators come or the schools fail is less inclined to look to the state for sustenance and oversight in other areas of life.

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packnrat Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 31529 Posts: 564	who are you to deside what gun is good and what gun is bad, are you a menber of brabra boxers front staff? how about if i do not like your jeep and do not want you to own it? we here in thr USA enjoy a freedom, called choice.

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