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&ReW · 05-15-2008, 11:30 AM

I went to the range the other day and somehow Wolf (steel cased stuff came up) and the the employees at the range started freaking out about how it is the worst stuff ever. I said ok what kind of .223 do y'all sell. Their answer...none. WTF? I figured they were so anti Wolf because the had brass cased bling stuff but they dont even sell .223. They said that they dont have a problem necessarily with steel cased stuff but more so with Wolf because "It will blow out your chamber."

Anyway I ask because I'm supposed to go out to my buddies property this weekend and would like to take out enough ammo for his whole family to plink with.

The gun is an CMMG (shooting Wolf voids their warranty) M4gery with chrome lined bbl.

TheRedHorseman · 05-15-2008, 11:31 AM

Blow out your chamber? That's a new one.

Wolf shoots just fine, a tad dirty, but it's cheap and it works pretty darn well.

bronko · 05-15-2008, 11:38 AM

Dirty but that's about it. I feed my AKs with it and will put it through the AR on occasion. Great for plinking.

4in100 · 05-15-2008, 11:39 AM

only probs I've noticed are due to the lacquer if it gets hot and you shoot a lot. So just clean well. And tell those guys to fawk-off.

PONY_DRIVER · 05-15-2008, 11:45 AM

Blow out your chamber?

Right.

Some people bitch about increased wear from the steel case, but how much is an extractor? As everyone else said, it's dirty. The new stuff is polymer coated instead of lacquer coated.

Drunk tank · 05-15-2008, 11:45 AM

Wolf is great plinking ammo. I personally dont like it because its dirty and not as powerful as stuff like federal 5.56 brews. Its accuracy is decent but I can say 100% without a fawking doubt that it will not "blow out your chamber." The shits underpowered for fawks sake! Plus, reloading might be a little more difficult from what i've heard... but I cant confirm that as I dont reload yet.

On my first AR build I had problems running wolf at first.... carrier was short stroking. Turned out it was mainly poor part selection on my part. overpowered buffer spring and poor gas block alignment. After the gas block was fixed and I put a nice normal powered spring in there... it shoots great! (btw... its a CMMG barrel).

far...right · 05-15-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by &ReW

The gun is an CMMG (shooting Wolf voids their warranty) M4gery with chrome lined bbl.

How the hell are they going to know that?

Are they going to stand by you and what someone shoot every round fired?

I would be willing to bet 90% of ARs have Wolf shot through them at some point.

SilverZuk · 05-15-2008, 11:59 AM

Those guys were just wanting to scavenge your brass and not have to pick the steel cases out of the pile

I have shot the stuff for years in 7.62x39 and 9mm. No problems.
The 7.62x39 is not as accurate as Remington or Winchester hunting loads, but it is good for just shooting.

Doc Holiday13 · 05-15-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by &ReW

"It will blow out your chamber."

I've never been sexually assaulted by my ammunition

Mo · 05-15-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverZuk

Those guys were just wanting to scavenge your brass and not have to pick the steel cases out of the pile

I have shot the stuff for years in 7.62x39 and 9mm. No problems.
The 7.62x39 is not as accurate as Remington or Winchester hunting loads, but it is good for just shooting.

they must not know about these new fangled things knows as magnets.

animator · 05-15-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunk tank

Wolf is great plinking ammo. I personally dont like it because its dirty and not as powerful as stuff like federal 5.56 brews. Its accuracy is decent but I can say 100% without a fawking doubt that it will not "blow out your chamber." The shits underpowered for fawks sake! Plus, reloading might be a little more difficult from what i've heard... but I cant confirm that as I dont reload yet.

On my first AR build I had problems running wolf at first.... carrier was short stroking. Turned out it was mainly poor part selection on my part. overpowered buffer spring and poor gas block alignment. After the gas block was fixed and I put a nice normal powered spring in there... it shoots great! (btw... its a CMMG barrel).

Some people reload the pistol-caliber (usually only once before tossing) and brass-cased stuff, but it's generally NOT a good idea to try and reload steel-cased berdan-primed rifle cartridges.

I shoot it in all my rifles, and have 0 problems. I don't shoot it in my .40 handgun any more due to a couple sheared extractors--costing 20 bucks each time to replace, but it's worked great in all of my rifles.

gots_a_sol · 05-15-2008, 01:35 PM

ak loves it, xd40 didnt so much. had intermittent problems with loading the next round. no issues with winchestor white box stuff though. idk its not THAT much cheaper than wwb for plinking.

Loveday · 05-15-2008, 01:41 PM

I like the .308. The .223 is loaded light. .45ACP does just fine out my Astra and my PT145. For 7.62x39, I prefer other Russian steel case, especially Barnaul.

Wolf is dirty, not dangerous.

NVScouter · 05-15-2008, 02:31 PM

My TC Contender's .233 barrel hated steel case, it was just hard to eject.

netwt12 · 05-16-2008, 03:09 PM

it's great for plinking. the only raw back are the smell, it will foul a weapon fairly quick and it's underpowered. i have shot alot of it. no blown out chambers or whatever else.

Sturgell · 05-16-2008, 06:58 PM

You all would be surprised to see Wolf's sp and hp ammo on impact. I would use it to hunt with out of the AK to 200 yards or so as long as it wasn't large game like elephant.

usmcdoc14 · 05-16-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sturgell

You all would be surprised to see Wolf's sp and hp ammo on impact. I would use it to hunt with out of the AK to 200 yards or so as long as it wasn't large game like elephant.

yup

I shot a pig for ......wait I can't say that

ok..ummmm I shot a pig for "some reason" in the ass with 7.62x39, the exit wound was IMPRESSIVE

I have no fear that it would take down game with no issues at all.

animator · 05-16-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

yup

I shot a pig for ......wait I can't say that

ok..ummmm I shot a pig for "some reason" in the ass with 7.62x39, the exit wound was IMPRESSIVE

I have no fear that it would take down game with no issues at all.

all you have to do is scream "My God it's coming right for us!!!" before you shoot.

usmcdoc14 · 05-16-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by animator

all you have to do is scream "My God it's coming right for us!!!" before you shoot.

it was "for training" but I can't post who or why or PETA will swarm in here

Frankenyota · 05-17-2008, 04:21 AM

Shot about 8K rounds of it through my ARs, no fuss no muss. It's fine for plinking.

Keith Strong · 05-17-2008, 05:28 AM

I have had lots of gas tube issues shooting wolf. Clogging. Other that the dirt, nothing has blown up

Aces'n'8s · 05-17-2008, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

it was "for training" but I can't post who or why or PETA will swarm in here

So your EOD guys needed a pig to hide an arty shell inside for your/their training?

TheRedHorseman · 05-17-2008, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith Strong

I have had lots of gas tube issues shooting wolf. Clogging. Other that the dirt, nothing has blown up

How in the everliving fawk are you managing to clog a gas tube?

usmcdoc14 · 05-17-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRedHorseman

How in the everliving fawk are you managing to clog a gas tube?

The same way its usually clogged

with a pipe cleaner

TheRedHorseman · 05-17-2008, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces'n'8s

So your EOD guys needed a pig to hide an arty shell inside for your/their training?

<bang!>

<Doc> Ok, new Corpsman puke, go fix it!

<NCP> I can't fix it

<Doc> Oh well, bacon for everyone!

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05-15-2008, 11:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
&ReW Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Member # 22969 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 493	The final say on Wolf I went to the range the other day and somehow Wolf (steel cased stuff came up) and the the employees at the range started freaking out about how it is the worst stuff ever. I said ok what kind of .223 do y'all sell. Their answer...none. WTF? I figured they were so anti Wolf because the had brass cased bling stuff but they dont even sell .223. They said that they dont have a problem necessarily with steel cased stuff but more so with Wolf because "It will blow out your chamber." Anyway I ask because I'm supposed to go out to my buddies property this weekend and would like to take out enough ammo for his whole family to plink with. The gun is an CMMG (shooting Wolf voids their warranty) M4gery with chrome lined bbl. __________________ Andrew

05-15-2008, 11:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
bronko Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Member # 18748 Location: Roaming the Northeast Posts: 1,340	Dirty but that's about it. I feed my AKs with it and will put it through the AR on occasion. Great for plinking. __________________ Bummin around in a SAS'd 88 Toy w/ a 3.4 :flipoff2:

05-15-2008, 11:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
PONY_DRIVER Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44662 Location: In a house! Posts: 3,973	Blow out your chamber? Right. Some people bitch about increased wear from the steel case, but how much is an extractor? As everyone else said, it's dirty. The new stuff is polymer coated instead of lacquer coated. __________________ "I'm strangely comfortable with it."

05-15-2008, 11:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
Drunk tank Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11727 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 2,013	Wolf is great plinking ammo. I personally dont like it because its dirty and not as powerful as stuff like federal 5.56 brews. Its accuracy is decent but I can say 100% without a fawking doubt that it will not "blow out your chamber." The shits underpowered for fawks sake! Plus, reloading might be a little more difficult from what i've heard... but I cant confirm that as I dont reload yet. On my first AR build I had problems running wolf at first.... carrier was short stroking. Turned out it was mainly poor part selection on my part. overpowered buffer spring and poor gas block alignment. After the gas block was fixed and I put a nice normal powered spring in there... it shoots great! (btw... its a CMMG barrel). __________________ ~Ryan~ If Danger came from the tap, I'd shower in that shit!

05-15-2008, 11:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
TheRedHorseman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64421 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 8,195	Blow out your chamber? That's a new one. Wolf shoots just fine, a tad dirty, but it's cheap and it works pretty darn well.

05-15-2008, 11:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
SilverZuk Hillbilly Houndsman Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13420 Location: Kenna, West Virginia Posts: 6,823	Those guys were just wanting to scavenge your brass and not have to pick the steel cases out of the pile I have shot the stuff for years in 7.62x39 and 9mm. No problems. The 7.62x39 is not as accurate as Remington or Winchester hunting loads, but it is good for just shooting. __________________ The penalty for punching someone in the mouth is way too high in our society. www.MountaineerOffroad.com

05-15-2008, 01:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
gots_a_sol Granite Guru Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46168 Location: Charles Town, WV Posts: 836	ak loves it, xd40 didnt so much. had intermittent problems with loading the next round. no issues with winchestor white box stuff though. idk its not THAT much cheaper than wwb for plinking. __________________ -Joe 93 D250 Ext. cab, short bed - NV4500, h2 wheels, GM Hydro-boost, on board air, 4-linked/bagged. 91 yj - waggy 44's, 36" iroks, 5.0, nv4500, 231/300

05-15-2008, 01:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
Loveday Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Member # 34298 Location: Jimtown Posts: 608	I like the .308. The .223 is loaded light. .45ACP does just fine out my Astra and my PT145. For 7.62x39, I prefer other Russian steel case, especially Barnaul. Wolf is dirty, not dangerous.

05-15-2008, 02:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
NVScouter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18152 Location: Reno, Nevada USA..ish Posts: 1,665	My TC Contender's .233 barrel hated steel case, it was just hard to eject. __________________ If anyone wants to know why illegals should be kicked the hell out, ask someone that busted their ass to be here legally! __________________

05-16-2008, 03:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
netwt12 Douche Canoe Join Date: May 2008 Member # 113684 Location: Auburn,Al Posts: 602 Blog Entries: 1	it's great for plinking. the only raw back are the smell, it will foul a weapon fairly quick and it's underpowered. i have shot alot of it. no blown out chambers or whatever else. __________________ 85 Yota nerf bars, truck nuts, leveling kit, floor mats, etc.

05-17-2008, 04:21 AM	#20 (permalink)
Frankenyota Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10632 Location: Hawaii Posts: 668	Shot about 8K rounds of it through my ARs, no fuss no muss. It's fine for plinking.

05-17-2008, 05:28 AM	#21 (permalink)
Keith Strong Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 477 Location: The Peeplz Republik Posts: 12,257	I have had lots of gas tube issues shooting wolf. Clogging. Other that the dirt, nothing has blown up __________________ [CENTER][SIZE="5"][URL="http://www.strong-arms.com"]Strong Arms "Survival Slings" For Sale PM me for a PBB only price[/URL] [/SIZE][/CENTER] Last edited by Keith Strong; 05-17-2008 at 05:28 AM.

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