Target sights for a concealed weapon

[BOFF]

I got to admit, I hate these 3 dot sights so far on the new Para CCO I got recently. I had a Beretta 92 FS which had 3 dots on it, but didn't keep it, as I bought it to trade. Regardless, I didn't like the 3 dots on it either. I don't like the fact that the front dot covers the aiming point.


I have always shot sights like this on all the rifles and pistols/revolvers in the past:


I like being able to see the target fully, rather than covering it up. Kind of hard to pick a spot if you can't see it.


Anyone shoot concealed weapons with the above sights, and anyone have suggestions on an adjustable sight system for the Para CCO with the above sights?

[TheRedHorseman]

Just use a fawking lazor and the force.
GOOGLE MOTHFUCKLE!
Want some adjustable sights for your crutch to go with these?

[monkeyevil]

For a defense shot in COM any sights will do. For plinking I prefer the style you posted.

[BOFF]

Originally Posted by TheRedHorseman

Just use a fawking lazor and the force.
GOOGLE MOTHFUCKLE!
Want some adjustable sights for your crutch to go with these?

The force takes too long to learn.

I Googled, and it said to ignore any post per TheRedHorseman

[kwrangln]

The pic you posted is the only type of pistol sights I've ever used. Look at Novak combat sights.

My new pistola has a fiber optic front sight post so that should be interesting, have to wait and see when I get it.

[SCOTTS_4X]

I bougth some FUSION novak style sights for my 1911 and like them alot. still waiting on my slide to be machined, but very good craftsmanship for a lot less than the NOVAK brand.

-Scott

[braxton357]

Seriously? You do realize that the dots are only there to help align the three points, you still aim with the tip of the center post just as you do on every other 3 point sight on any other rifle/pistol. You don't aim with the dot. Just helps you see in low light conditions and quick aquisition.

:edit: Maybe this will help. Same point of aim, just extra dots. (fwiw, these pictures don't show where you should be aiming as I'm sure you know.)

[TheRedHorseman]

Look at the other five or ten "I R CCW Dum" threads he's started, it'll explain all.

BOFF, go get some professional training, seriously. I don't care how much you shoot or have shot, EVERYONE can benefit from training, especially somebody with as many noob questions as you have.

[TNToy]

Originally Posted by kwrangln

The pic you posted is the only type of pistol sights I've ever used. Look at Novak combat sights.

Liar. You shot my Glock, remember?

The sight picture BOFF drew us is known as a Six O-clock hold. The round lands above the plane of the front sight. At least, out at a certain distance. Obviously, the round will drop at extreme ranges.

All my guns are set up with a point-of-aim or 'combat' setup. The round lands flush with the top edge of the front sight. If you used BOFF's sight picture at 5-35 yards on any of my guns, you'd puch a tight group even with the bottom of the circle. Right where the top plane of the front sight is resting.

6-O'clock is great for picking cans off of boards, or bullseye shooting. It really shines there. But when I want to shoot the head on an IDPA target at 7 yards, immediately followed by another at 10 yards, I don't want to guess how low to hold on those targets. I cover the bottom half of the head with the sights, and squeeze. Likewise, it perfect for the chests: A bright cardboard circle, in front of your black sights. Cover the bottom 50% of that circle with the sights, and you'll punch a hole right in the middle.

Different sights, for different applications. I do not know and trainers who advocate a bullseye sight setup for defensive use. However, I don't know that many trainers, either. If you know where the round will land at 5 yards, and at 25... Then by all means, knock yourself out.

[kwrangln]

I thought about your Glock when I was typing that, but honestly couldn't remember what they looked like, kinda crazy now that I think about it. I know for some of the stages I was just using point of aim, which bit me in the butt a couple times. So, in addition to fightin to keep the sights down due to grip, they were sighted higher than Im used to? Damn.

Pumpkin on a post is ingrained in me from way back, if I'm taking slow aimed shots thats the way I've always aligned the sights. I didn't even consider that they could be set up another way, makes sense I guess thinking about it. Pumpkin on a post hitting center of circle means your hitting higher than you are sighting.

Never given it much thought before, just one of those things I've always done.

[BOFF]

Originally Posted by braxton357

Seriously? You do realize that the dots are only there to help align the three points, you still aim with the tip of the center post just as you do on every other 3 point sight on any other rifle/pistol. You don't aim with the dot. Just helps you see in low light conditions and quick aquisition.

Pardon, my lack of info.

On both the sights of the Para, and Beretta, the point of impact on the targets is/was where the dots line up, and lower. If I aimed as I normally would with the front ramp being level with the rear sight, and right where where you wish the bullet to hit, (point of aim), the bullet would hit exactly where the dots were located, or lower. Usually 5 to 12 inches low, depending on the distance.

Neither pistol has/had horizontal adjustments for the sights.

I just like to hit where I'm aiming, or at least close to it, without having to compensate by aiming over the target, and not seeing it.