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Old 08-29-2008, 02:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Stock painting question

I have a Savage model 116 30-06 that I only use for dynamite shoots (not a hunting rifle). It has a composite stock on it and I was wondering if it could be painted? The reason I ask is a friend of mine is an airbrush artist and he owes me a favor or two so I was thinking since its just a play toy (not going to be used for hunting) why not have him paint up the stock? He will be using automotive quality urathane paints (if that matters). Will the plastic/composite take paint or will it just flake off every time you touch it? Would a wood stock be a better option? Thanks in advance!
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I believe you will find the answers you seek in these two threads:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...e+camo+pattern

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...ht=parkerizing

Almost positive painting of stocks is discussed in the home camo pattern thread.
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You can use automotive paint, I've used Dupont Chromabase, but you will need an adhesion promoter. Sure you can paint right over nylon/composite with enamel/urethane/poly, but I wouldn't run the risk of spider cracks and possibly flaking.

You do NOT want to get that stuff on your skin. It has a similar burn feel as chemical stripper....and if you're sweating....it's a lot worse. Use a proper respirator as well.
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"you" dont paint stocks, you send them to Doc duh
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I believe you will find the answers you seek in these two threads:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...e+camo+pattern

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...ht=parkerizing

Almost positive painting of stocks is discussed in the home camo pattern thread.
I have read both of the threads and both only mention painting with Duracote on synthetic stocks. I also have read the thread about Duracote being re-packaged Shermin Williams paint and from what I gathered in that thread Duracote is a different type of paint than most automotive urathane paints, so I wasn't sure if the urathane would work like the Duracote.

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You can use automotive paint, I've used Dupont Chromabase, but you will need an adhesion promoter. Sure you can paint right over nylon/composite with enamel/urethane/poly, but I wouldn't run the risk of spider cracks and possibly flaking.
So you are saying it isn't worth it, as in the paint won't adhear properly?
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"you" dont paint stocks, you send them to Doc duh
"I" wont be painting the stock.
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So you are saying it isn't worth it, as in the paint won't adhear properly?
No at all. If that's what you want, it's completely worth it. I'm just relating that my experience has shown me "adhesion" to a plastic substrate requires just a little more prep than painting over metal/wood. However, that's using automotive grade paint.

Who knows? Maybe that plastic rated Krylon works much better at 1/10 the cost?
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No at all. If that's what you want, it's completely worth it. I'm just relating that my experience has shown me "adhesion" to a plastic substrate requires just a little more prep than painting over metal/wood. However, that's using automotive grade paint.

Who knows? Maybe that plastic rated Krylon works much better at 1/10 the cost?
Thanks for the input. The guy painting it does a lot of motorcycles and helmets so he has experience with painting plastics. I know that some plastics are a lot harder to get good adheasion on than others and that's kinda why I threw the question up here (to see if anyone else has had any experience with the subject).
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Painting plastic is accomplished with a proper adhesion promoter.

First clean the plastic with Matthews Paint Company's Plastic Prep.

Next spray two medium wet coats of Matthews Tie Bond. This is the adhesion promoter for all plastics except polyethelene and polypropolene. When the solvent "flashes" and loses its wet look, it is ready for the topcoat.

Finally, spray two coats of Matthews Acrylic Polyurethane. An automotive urethane like PPG's Deltron, Global, or Autokolor 2K will also work.

Tech sheets are here...

Plastic Prep...
http://corporateportal.ppg.com/NR/rd...3/0/MPC171.pdf

Tie Bond...
http://corporateportal.ppg.com/NR/rd...16074777SP.pdf

Topcoats in 54,000 colors...
http://corporateportal.ppg.com/NA/Re...s/topcoats.htm
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Thanks for the info. After looking yestreday I think I'm going to get a thumb hole stock for the rifle and have it painted instead of the factory stock.
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