What magnification to see .223 hits on paper at 100yds? or more? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

kwrangln · 08-30-2008, 09:32 AM

Guess my eyes just suck, trying to sight in my scope a while back and I couldnt see where I was hitting at 100 yds, even with the scopes 4x.

Being a cheap bastard, whats going to be the cheapest way to get enough magnification to see my hits at distance so I can make corrections?

Grab the biggest cheapest scope they have at wallyworld and an old camera tripod?

Any other ideas?

TheRedHorseman · 08-30-2008, 09:37 AM

Just buy a spotting scope.

kwrangln · 08-30-2008, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRedHorseman

Just buy a spotting scope.

What magnification? How much money?

I looked at a few online and seeing $400-$600, it just aint gonna happen.

Mo · 08-30-2008, 09:41 AM

got a nephew or something?

edit: fixed the pic

kwrangln · 08-30-2008, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo

got a nephew or something?

Pic no workie.

Only range close is run by DNR, 10 minute fire session, 5 min ceasefire to change targets. Waiting for a ceasefire to see how many clicks to adjust windage, or firing a mag full and later finding out its off target kind of sucks.

And I usually shoot alone. Wife will come with me to the indoor range to shoot her pistol, but could care less about the rifle.

TheRedHorseman · 08-30-2008, 10:12 AM

Pretty much anything over 20 power should be a huge help.

edited after reading some reviews on the piece of shit.

Frankenyota · 08-30-2008, 11:01 AM

Get a 20X super sniper scope. You can use it to spot with and can hang it on your long range rifle when you want to use it as a scope. They are only about $300.

Doc Holiday13 · 08-30-2008, 02:42 PM

Dude just spend the money on the sight and see targets its much cheaper than a spotting scope.

300sniper · 08-30-2008, 05:31 PM

get a larger caliber

.

i can usually see my 30 cal holes at 300 yards with a 15x nightforce scope. 15x or greater should be good for 100 yards.

Mo · 08-30-2008, 06:39 PM

a cheap way is to get those high-visibility targets that flake away and show bright yellow or orange underneath the black.

makes it much easier to see with either your scope or just binoculars

kwrangln · 08-30-2008, 06:44 PM

Thanks all.

As far as changing caliber or getting a different scope, it aint happenin.

I found some spotting scopes in the $100 range that have a couple decent reviews, may go that route eventually. Several folks on this board and another one said the shoot n see targets really help so I think I'll give those a shot first and see what happens.

bigdaddylee82 · 08-30-2008, 06:56 PM

I've got a Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x40 on my .17 hmr and I can usually make out holes in the paper at 100yds with it on it's highest power. When it get's later in the afternoon or if it's pretty overcast I can't always make it out due to the low light. Now days I pretty much always use those Shoot-N-See stickers that turn bright neon green when you hit them and that makes seeing the bullet holes a lot easier. There are some pretty cheap spotting scopes available these days, if you don't want to go with the big names. I'm sure someone will disagree with me, but if you just need to see where holes are on paper any of the cheapies with enough magnification should do the job. My parents have a cheaper telescope at their house that I have used for a spoting scope before and it let me see everything I needed. My $.02

- Lee

Cabin Boy · 08-30-2008, 11:27 PM

I have a Nikon 3x9x40 that can spot perfectly a 100 yds.

mgmorrison · 08-31-2008, 05:37 AM

If money is an issue, get a cheap telescope. When you put the word "spotting" with "scope" the price goes way up.

Fisheadgib · 08-31-2008, 06:37 AM

Try Natchez Shooters Supplies. They have several cheap spotting scopes under 100.00 .

aloharover · 08-31-2008, 08:05 AM

Spotting Scope. I can get some.

Quote:

Title

BUSHNELL 15-45X50MM SPOTSCOPE
Description

BUSHNELL SPOTTING SCOPE SPORTVIEW 15-45X50MM WITH TABLE TOP TRIPOD AND HARD CASE

Prise
$75

It's a simple, straight sight, very usable spotter.

braxton357 · 08-31-2008, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRedHorseman

Pretty much anything over 20 power should be a huge help.

edited after reading some reviews on the piece of shit.

I don't know which one you linked, but I've got the NCstar 20-60x spotting scope/tripod. It's a piece of shit, and has bad reviews..yeah. But I've been using it at 300+yds with .223 and it works fine if you get the focus just right. For the price, it's not bad at all. It's still all in one piece too, but I don't throw my shit against trees to test either.

TheRedHorseman · 08-31-2008, 12:10 PM

It was the Ncstar, and the reviews on it were horrid. The Bushnell only costs a few bucks more and is far more favorable.

08-30-2008, 09:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
kwrangln Doublewide engineer Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6971 Location: Gulf coast Posts: 5,904	What magnification to see .223 hits on paper at 100yds? or more? Guess my eyes just suck, trying to sight in my scope a while back and I couldnt see where I was hitting at 100 yds, even with the scopes 4x. Being a cheap bastard, whats going to be the cheapest way to get enough magnification to see my hits at distance so I can make corrections? Grab the biggest cheapest scope they have at wallyworld and an old camera tripod? Any other ideas? __________________ I'm the "tack tack tack" welding nazi. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showp...&postcount=218 "I didn't mean to kill nobody ... I just meant to shoot the sonofabitch in the head. Him dying was between him and the Lord." R. L. Burnside

08-30-2008, 09:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mo Everyday is Tuesday. Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 47 Location: Lizzy, CO Posts: 15,650	got a nephew or something? edit: fixed the pic Attached Images Last edited by Mo; 08-30-2008 at 11:58 AM.

08-30-2008, 10:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
TheRedHorseman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64421 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 8,195	Pretty much anything over 20 power should be a huge help. edited after reading some reviews on the piece of shit. Last edited by TheRedHorseman; 08-30-2008 at 10:14 AM.

08-30-2008, 05:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
300sniper SHOOT TO THRILL! Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26382 Location: Greenwood, Ca Posts: 7,117	get a larger caliber. i can usually see my 30 cal holes at 300 yards with a 15x nightforce scope. 15x or greater should be good for 100 yards. __________________ 87 4runner d44f/9"r full width, 5.38/5.43/ARBs, superior shafts, ctm's, twin stick 4-1 dana 300 behind toy t-case, allpro springs f/r, 39.5 iroks on aluminum trail ready bead locks ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ I'm just a peckerwood who lives in the hills with too many guns.

08-30-2008, 06:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
kwrangln Doublewide engineer Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6971 Location: Gulf coast Posts: 5,904	Thanks all. As far as changing caliber or getting a different scope, it aint happenin. I found some spotting scopes in the $100 range that have a couple decent reviews, may go that route eventually. Several folks on this board and another one said the shoot n see targets really help so I think I'll give those a shot first and see what happens. __________________ I'm the "tack tack tack" welding nazi. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showp...&postcount=218 "I didn't mean to kill nobody ... I just meant to shoot the sonofabitch in the head. Him dying was between him and the Lord." R. L. Burnside

08-30-2008, 09:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
TheRedHorseman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64421 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 8,195	Just buy a spotting scope.

08-30-2008, 11:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
Frankenyota Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10632 Location: Hawaii Posts: 668	Get a 20X super sniper scope. You can use it to spot with and can hang it on your long range rifle when you want to use it as a scope. They are only about $300.

08-30-2008, 02:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
Doc Holiday13 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 48233 Location: Northern VA Posts: 3,154	Dude just spend the money on the sight and see targets its much cheaper than a spotting scope.

08-30-2008, 06:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mo Everyday is Tuesday. Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 47 Location: Lizzy, CO Posts: 15,650	a cheap way is to get those high-visibility targets that flake away and show bright yellow or orange underneath the black. makes it much easier to see with either your scope or just binoculars

08-30-2008, 06:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
bigdaddylee82 Stuck in Yankeeville Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 54666 Location: 793 mi from Fayetteville, AR Posts: 558	I've got a Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x40 on my .17 hmr and I can usually make out holes in the paper at 100yds with it on it's highest power. When it get's later in the afternoon or if it's pretty overcast I can't always make it out due to the low light. Now days I pretty much always use those Shoot-N-See stickers that turn bright neon green when you hit them and that makes seeing the bullet holes a lot easier. There are some pretty cheap spotting scopes available these days, if you don't want to go with the big names. I'm sure someone will disagree with me, but if you just need to see where holes are on paper any of the cheapies with enough magnification should do the job. My parents have a cheaper telescope at their house that I have used for a spoting scope before and it let me see everything I needed. My $.02 - Lee

08-30-2008, 11:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cabin Boy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8220 Location: Peoria, Az Posts: 872	I have a Nikon 3x9x40 that can spot perfectly a 100 yds. __________________ steadysight.com Last edited by Cabin Boy; 08-30-2008 at 11:28 PM.

08-31-2008, 05:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
mgmorrison Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16282 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 165	If money is an issue, get a cheap telescope. When you put the word "spotting" with "scope" the price goes way up.

08-31-2008, 06:37 AM	#15 (permalink)
Fisheadgib Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29385 Location: Florida Panhandle Posts: 694	Try Natchez Shooters Supplies. They have several cheap spotting scopes under 100.00 . __________________ [QUOTE=cdubzon40s] matts what are you gonna do that would make my like miserable? kicking me off this lame ass site wouldnt mean a damn thing to me haha losers[/QUOTE]

08-31-2008, 12:10 PM	#18 (permalink)
TheRedHorseman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64421 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 8,195	It was the Ncstar, and the reviews on it were horrid. The Bushnell only costs a few bucks more and is far more favorable.

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