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Old 02-08-2009, 10:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ears: what is the min acceptable dB reduction one should have on their ears? I found a pair of 25dB reduction foam earplugs and am wondering if they'd be satisfactory.

eyes: recommendations? honestly, I should just get new glasses, and probably will in the next month or 2, but in case I don't get to it...
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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For what, shooting?

I just use whatever earplugs they have in the box at work. NRR 25 I think.

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Old 02-08-2009, 11:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I use the same ear protection, eyes, I just use my prescription sunglasses or my regular glasses if its not bright enough.
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More is always better- You can get winchester 32NRR foam earplugs, 5 pairs for $2 at almost any sporting goods store imagineable.

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For eyes, just get a new set of glasses with ANSI approved lenses; it shouldn't add more than $50 to a pair of glasses. I have a pair and then have the slip on side shields that go on the ear wings. With real glasses, i never notice the sidewings. With safety glasses, i always do and they always annoy me.

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I use my oakley ballistic M frames for eye pro. Not a huge oakley buff, but they're proven and I got them relatively cheap. If you are/were military/LE or gov't worker than usstandardissue.com has some smokin deals.

As far as ear pro, I usually just do foam plugs or my generic remington earmuffs.
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use whatever you can afford. The foamies are the cheapest but also perform to set ANSI standards so they're just as good as the rest. I like the screw looking ones that have the hold through them. They don't give you that stopped up ear feeling and you can TALK WITHOUT HAVING TO YELL TO FEEL LIKE YOU"RE NOT WHISPERING.

Glasses: ANSI Z87 is the standard for most "safety glasses". It is supposed to be printed/impressed/etc on anything that meets the standard. If they meet that you're good as that's the only standard testing really done. Anything else is your $$
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For eyes I used to have a pair of shooting glasses I got from a gun store but they didn't fit well with my ear muffs. We bought these in bulk at work so I started wearing them, they are much more comfy. Safety Glasses

For ear muffs I just have a pair of Peltor muffs. They are kinda bulky but they do pretty good. I would like to try some of the electronic noise canceling muffs but I've never got around to it.

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Old 02-09-2009, 05:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I use a set of those indoor outdoor two end plugs, I like them a bit better then the foam.
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I usually wear foamies and ear muffs. I've been around a lot of loud machinery and gunfire in my short life and still have good hearing thanks to wearing ear protection.

I have some Remington safety glasses that I use when shooting. Unfortunately I've gotten in the bad habit of not wearing glasses when I'm working on my truck and have gotten several pieces of metal in my eyes as a result. Thankfully none of them caused any permanent damage and were able to be removed.
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use whatever you can afford. The foamies are the cheapest but also perform to set ANSI standards so they're just as good as the rest. I like the screw looking ones that have the hold through them. They don't give you that stopped up ear feeling and you can TALK WITHOUT HAVING TO YELL TO FEEL LIKE YOU"RE NOT WHISPERING.
I like that style also. I had a pair of the surefire ones that had the ring and everything. They block out high decibel sounds but let the low ones through.

Of course, I can't keep up with mine and have a bunch of the cheap foamies for around for just in case.
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I have just about every sort of ear protection known to man, including some noise cancelling stuff but I usually find myself using regular ol' foam ear plugs, they are comfortable, cheap and have an excellent NRR.

I've spent my whole adult life around helicopters and do my fair share of shooting and my hearing is actually better now then it was 12 years ago if that means anything.

I'm not so good about always wearing eye protection, but when I do I've got a bunch of the cheap remington(I think) shooting glasses from walmart or a pair of Wiley-X's or Oakleys that Uncle gave me. As long as they meet Z87.1, and they are comfortable you should be good to go.
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For me it's Plugs for 22 and pistol ammo, It plugs and muffs for rifle ammo.
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The only time I dont wear hearing protection when shooting is when hunting. I use the foamies from work that are rated at 33 dB. Work got them from McMaster Carr in large quantity...

As to glasses, just a pair of polarised neutral grey Smiths. That, or a pair of over the nose 1.75 diopter readers to wear while adjusting sights/scopes...

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I posted up on here a while back my review of the electronic hearing protection I've started using. I love'em. I wear glasses so eyes isn't an issue.
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I just grab stuff from work. 31db rated foam ear plugs and whatever safety glasses I have at the moment. The ear plugs are OTMT (I think they're Travers house brand) and came in a 200-pair box prebagged by the pair, I think the box was $15ish. Ask the next time I see you, I've usually got some in the door pocket in my truck; you can have some if you want to try them.

My safety glasses were a bit spendier, but not awful, probably $8 for the pair. I've found that once you find comfy safety glasses, they're worth spending money on if need be, and worth cycling through as they get scratched-up as well--comfy clear glasses, I'll wear all day. Uncomfy scratched ones, I'll take off every chance I get, and neglect to wear them when I should, and... that's bad.
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The only time I dont wear hearing protection when shooting is when hunting.
I went that way, but too often I sit in plywood "houses". I've used the kind liek this:



as I find I can still hear enough going on around me, but don't get the deafness/ringing from the reverberation from .308 in an enclosed area.
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ears: what is the min acceptable dB reduction one should have on their ears? I found a pair of 25dB reduction foam earplugs and am wondering if they'd be satisfactory.

eyes: recommendations? honestly, I should just get new glasses, and probably will in the next month or 2, but in case I don't get to it...
I like my hearing, and have already damaged it enough in my youth.

When I'm at an indoor range, I'll double up. Foam plugs, and then muffs over them.

Outside, it depends on what I am shooting, but I usually go with the muffs. My understanding is that muffs are still far better than plugs of the same rating (even if they are inconvenient and uncomfortable), because there is a certain amount of noise/concussion that is transmitted directly through area around the ear that muffs cover. This may or may not be correct, it's what I've been taught, and I prefer to err on the side of caution with my hearing.
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29 dB is the highest I've ever seen on muffs. Northern Tool has the best selection I've ever seen as far as chain stores go.

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EDIT: 25 dB is sufficient to prevent hearing damage. For certain applications, plugs and muffs might provide traditional comfort. If I am starting somebody out shooting centerfire pistols or rifles, I usually double them up on plugs and muffs. Also nice for indoor ranges.

For hunting I keep a pair of these around my neck. You can drop them in quick and they're not bulky.


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I went that way, but too often I sit in plywood "houses". I've used the kind liek this:



as I find I can still hear enough going on around me, but don't get the deafness/ringing from the reverberation from .308 in an enclosed area.
I dont blind hunt and treed areas like I hunt tend to deaden sound is my feeble excuse-justification for not wearing ear protection while hunting...

Ive though about doing the electronic for hunting but was looking at the enhancement of woodland sounds not from shooting proper.

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my ears are ringing right now.i alway, well almost always wear plugs and muffs.what was that you said!
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No. I just didn't feel like retyping reviews, and linking to all the shit I use, all over again.
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