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Old 04-02-2009, 05:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Taurus issues cont.

A thread not so long ago had some champions of the Taurus brand.

Well my dealer got two of the revolvers (new) and they wouldn't function.

On the first Ultralight, the steel insert by the firing pin stuck out too far and case rims would bang into it. Dressed that and had lesser hangups, but they did continue. Ejector star was burred all to hell, so that got dressed and it wouldn't hang up.

But...........you had to have the cylinder rotated just right for the cases to clear when closing, because the frame opening for the cylinder, where Smiths have their little stop tab, the frame was not taken fully back, there was a pronounced hump. So I had to file that back. Gun works fine now (was sold, dude couldn't get it to fire- dealer swapped him a new one, and now this one, while technically never fired, is being sold at used price-due to previous ownership and need of repair).

Burrs and sloppy insert at firing pin a problem on the next one too.

And then there's a Rossi Fing up.

Pedro needs to lay off the friggin' booze and start doing his friggin job, lest he lose it to a Chinonese kid.

3 new Brazilian pieces of sheite.

Yeah, they make great stuff my arse.

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Old 04-02-2009, 06:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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dont hold back any, tell us how you really feel(about taurus)...


why did you spend ANY time working on these?


I used to ship them back and get a NEW gun within 3 days...they would rather send a replacement than repair what I sent in.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've had similar issues. I bought a Taurus Tracker in 45 acp in January. Head spacing was so tight, you could only close the cylinder with a round in a certain hole (of the 5) . sent it in after not getting to shoot it. still no gun back. Not going to buy another Taurus.
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I won't say taurus (or ANY) brand is the be-all end-all. I will say I'd trust my families lives to my pt140. Not one fte/ftf etc.
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I've put 1500 rounds through a PT745 without a single malfunction. My pistol has performed flawlessly.
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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my taurus ultralight has been nothing but exceptional
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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um, arn't these built by humans?

your going to have day to day quality issues, just like Detroit did before automation.
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um, arn't these built by humans?

your going to have day to day quality issues, just like Detroit did before automation.

Very true. You might run into quality issues whether you own a $400 Taurus or a $1300 Kimber.
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Very true. You might run into quality issues whether you own a $400 Taurus or a $1300 Kimber.
no, you didn't go there....
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Awwww, shit. Oh's noes! I compared Taurus and Kimber!!
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Awwww, shit. Oh's noes! I compared Taurus and Kimber!!
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BTW, loved my PT 945, just wish it had a longer tang on the grip. Never a problem other than major hammer bite.
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Just got my 24/7 OSS I ordered from Pete this week. Very nice little pistol. haven't been able to find enough ammo to give a good usage test, but 100% function so far...
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Love my .44 tracker, about as small and light as you can get in a .44 mag and always goes bang. No issues with my wife's 605 .357 either. Both are lighter than the Smiths ( I have a 629, heavy bulky bastard). I've heard about the QC issues, just have not had any myself.
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dont hold back any, tell us how you really feel(about taurus)...


why did you spend ANY time working on these?


I used to ship them back and get a NEW gun within 3 days...they would rather send a replacement than repair what I sent in.

The gun was sold yesterday, brought back in for one that worked today.
It wasn't fired, but was sold, so is a "pre-owned" gun. Not sure what the warrantly is......but the "original owner" didn't own it anymore.

Plus there's another gun that went to Taurus some time ago and there's been no word on that yet (the reason it went in not the fault of the company).

3 days? Never that fast on the ones they've sent in. Some were fixed or replaced in rapid fashion, do know that. But not lately.

FWIW my dealer asked me to see if I could find the problems, so I did and he then asked me to fix it, which I did.

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Old 04-02-2009, 09:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I understand brand loyalty and stuff, but really, like I said on another thread, Taurus guns go back to the factory more than others I've seen sold through a few shops.

And that % is volume adjusted.

If others still don't want to believe it, fine.

Today I got 2 more data points to substantiate my previous claim.

Now, does my area get all the low QC stuff sent to it, the 3 shops all get stuff from a distributor that gets low QC stuff?

Odds are "no".

Taurus has a lot of QC issues, and always has.

Buying a Taurus puts one at higher risk of having something that is messed up, or will mess up.

Some folks take the chance and never have a problem, some do and get it resolved. Others get pissed off and buy better stuff.

And a few poor bastards get pissed off and buy more crap (through poor luck or poor judgement).

I just didn't care for the tone I got when posting on this and other forums, like I was making this shit up.

Maybe I took some posts the wrong way.

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Making claims of never hearing or seeing problems can be a truthful claim.

But making such a claim in a countering response without disclaimer can be seen as implying that there is no belief in the original post.

A clever forum aggitator will often write things in such an ambiguous style.

Hence me prev post disclaimer, of how I "might" have taken things in a wrong manner.
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I just didn't care for the tone I got when posting on this and other forums, like I was making this shit up.
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Old 04-02-2009, 11:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't know... I like to give my buddy at the gun shop shit because his Kimber 1911 doesn't have a full length guide rod, came with a recoil bushing (which prevented the slide from disengaging the slide lock when you pulled the slide back from locked open)


It also came with a plastic backstrap/main spring cover.


My taurus had none of these issues. I *did* change out the ambi safety for a Kimber regular safety that was laying around, simply because I don't like the ambi.

Oh, I've only got 1 FTF in the first 250 rounds. It was because I didn't have the mag fully inserted
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I'm not surprised. Taurus is trying to meet demand and of course GC suffers.


I've not had any issues. We did sell a new XD with issues that went back. Everything else has performed as designed.
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The Taurus pistols I have had in the past were problem free. But I've been looking for a .44 and the Tracker intrigued me. You're not the first person to report their QC has been shotty lately.
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Couple more data points: I've now personally witnessed two of the PBB-beloved PT1911s totally self-destruct.

The 1911 shooters warned one guy several times before he bought a PT1911. Halfway through his third match (total of about 1,500 round fired) the extractor failed. Fell out.

Most of the guys I shoot with had seen a PT1911 fail in some high-volume match or defensive training class (at least 5 others here and there) and they tried to sway him toward an SA, Kimber, or RIA.

The other had a pretty serious internal problem. IIRC, the grip safety decided it wasn't going to deactivate any more, in the middle of a mag. It was impossible to fire.

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I won't say taurus (or ANY) brand is the be-all end-all. I will say I'd trust my families lives to my pt140. Not one fte/ftf etc.
I owned one once - first gun I ever bought. Worst trigger I've ever pulled. MUCH worse than a Sigma.

I hate to see that their wheelguns are having problems, even in small doses. I've always like the Taurus revolver for the price point.

And in fairness, some of their models seem to be trouble-free. The 24/7 and the PT 111/140 guns (aside from the damned trigger) I haven't heard anything bad about.
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I owned one once - first gun I ever bought. Worst trigger I've ever pulled. MUCH worse than a Sigma.


And in fairness, some of their models seem to be trouble-free. The 24/7 and the PT 111/140 guns (aside from the damned trigger) I haven't heard anything bad about.

My PT745 has always performed perfectly, but I do agree the trigger pull sucks.
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