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Old 06-09-2009, 09:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Don't ever bitch about recoil or gun size again.

See it all the time, .45 is too much recoil for follow up shots, .40 is too snappy, can't handle a full size due to girly hands, whatever.

Watch this and never let me hear yall bitchin again.

YouTube - Miko Andres WORLD'S YOUNGEST SHOOTER 6 years old (1)

6 year old shooting an IPSC match with a full size. Kid can't even reach the trigger (holds it in one hand uses other hand to fire) and he's doing just fine. Good muzzle control as well. Pretty damn cool.
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other than forgetting round count and dead fireing he probably did 3x better than me!!!

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See it all the time, .45 is too much recoil for follow up shots,
I beg to differ on that statement. I shoot near max loaded 200 grain bullets and I can empty a mag accurately pretty fast. Bullet weight makes a world of difference
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I beg to differ on that statement. I shoot near max loaded 200 grain bullets and I can empty a mag accurately pretty fast. Bullet weight makes a world of difference
i think he was saying thats a common complaint he hears.... not that he thinks this is the case.
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ooh and whats up with his slide not locking back?

Impressive for a child of his size
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I beg to differ on that statement. I shoot near max loaded 200 grain bullets and I can empty a mag accurately pretty fast. Bullet weight makes a world of difference
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i think he was saying thats a common complaint he hears.... not that he thinks this is the case.

Bingo.::

Still love my 1911.
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That kid is pretty awesome, but is he shooting full house loads?
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That kid is pretty awesome, but is he shooting full house loads?
I seriously doubt it.
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Thats just cool, must be a proud Dad!
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ooh and whats up with his slide not locking back?
Somehow I just don't think that's a "normal" 1911; maybe TNToy can enlighten us as to what might've been done to it within the rules, and what of that might result in the empty-mag-hold-open not working, but the combo of that, plus the low recoil, and the relative ease with which he racks the slide, suggests to me that there's more than a few things not-standard-1911 on that pistol.

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Agreed, even if I'm right about it being a semi-custom, that's a lot more dedication and concentration than I'd expect from a six-year-old.
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Ha - would be a great vid to show your 7th grade classmates on "What did you do over the summer" day in class
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Ha - would be a great vid to show your 7th grade classmates on "What did you do over the summer" day in class
Administration probably expel him on the spot for showing a video of a gun in class.
This kid got suspended for merely drawing a picture of a gun.
Who didn't draw tanks/planes/guns when they were 13?
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Somehow I just don't think that's a "normal" 1911; maybe TNToy can enlighten us as to what might've been done to it within the rules, and what of that might result in the empty-mag-hold-open not working, but the combo of that, plus the low recoil, and the relative ease with which he racks the slide, suggests to me that there's more than a few things not-standard-1911 on that pistol.



Agreed, even if I'm right about it being a semi-custom, that's a lot more dedication and concentration than I'd expect from a six-year-old.

If I had to guess it's running a lighter spring and loads that just cycle the slide and can still poke a hole in paper. Beveled mag well and other standard tuning. JMHGuess
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Holy shit, not bad. I noticed....

That gun is set up just for him. It looks like lighter loads, the grips are taken off (i'm guessing so he can get a better grip on it), it looks like hes running a lighter recoil spring. I got a kick out of how he has to use his left hand for the mag release because his shooting hand isn't big enough to reach it yet.

Possible future champion right there, especially starting out that young. Shit I didn't even have a BB gun until I was 7 years old.
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:35 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I'm sure he's shooting minor. In a gun that heavy, I can load you some ammo that almost feels like a .22 - my Glock is at least a full pound lighter than that behemoth, and it's already ridiculously shoft shooting.

There's no way the recoil spring is more than 8-12 pounds (glocks are 17-plus, most 45s are somewhere near there). He's racking it way too easily. Again, minor loads (very light).

It's still impressive. The kid has better control of his muzzle direction than most adults who've owned guns for a decade and start shooting with us.

That said, if/when I son that age, he'll be waiting at least another 5-6 years to shoot IDPA or IPSC. ... I see the lack of sheer muscle mass and hand-size posing a serious issue if he trips, or something. That's just me.

Most every IPSC/USPSA shooter in the high-cap divisions (Limited and Open) sets up their gun so that it won't lock open. In IPSC you only run the gun dry when you screw up - the idea is reload with several rounds remaining. So they shave down the slide stop so that they can't accidentally lock the gun open by thumbing the lever in the middle of a mag

Those of us who shoot lower-capacity divisions (I'm 10+1 in production) run a much higher risk of shooting the gun empty, and Production (nearly stock) guns aren't allowed to have this feature disable anyway. Or pretty much any other feature, for that matter.
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Administration probably expel him on the spot for showing a video of a gun in class.
This kid got suspended for merely drawing a picture of a gun.
Who didn't draw tanks/planes/guns when they were 13?
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Mine almost got suspended for telling the class what she learned over trackout last year.


"I learned to fieldstrip, clean and reassemble a AK47, a 1911 and a Star Modelo Super. " "Then I learned how to shoot a FAL and the AK47."


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Ha - would be a great vid to show your 7th grade classmates on "What did you do over the summer" day in class
He's not in 6th grade, he's 6 years old.
He won't be in 7th grade for another 5 years.

Likely in 1st or 2nd grade right now.

Good kid. I'm impressed with the time the parents must have dedicated to teaching him how to shoot.

I wonder what kind of stupid anti-gun comments we'll see on that vid in a few months after the morons see it.
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Fuck yeah. Coolest Internet video ever. I hope my daughter is that good by 6.
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He has some good skills. Arm extension is good. Muzzle control good. Not in a hurry. I do think underpowered loads are what is preventing slide lock up. He does have a bit of muzzle flip going on that might be contributing to it.

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The gun's slide stop has been disabled. I explained that already. For the most part, most IPSC shooters don't want the gun to lock back.
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Mine almost got suspended for telling the class what she learned over trackout last year.


"I learned to fieldstrip, clean and reassemble a AK47, a 1911 and a Star Modelo Super. " "Then I learned how to shoot a FAL and the AK47."


Generated more than one phone call and email from administration.
Would you care to elaborate on that story, or have you already on here? I'm interested to hear the details of that.

I have a son on the way and I'll definitely be teaching him about that stuff when he's old enough and I wouldn't want him to be afraid to talk about that sort of thing but at the same time I wouldn't want to harassed by school administration.


And in response to the original post, anyone who complains about .40 or .45 being too much to handle needs to sack up. I've taught girls and children to shoot a pistol using my .45 cal Glock which people also complain on here about being "too fat for their hands". None of the kids or delicate women have complained.
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