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Asterix · 09-21-2009, 11:39 AM

I wanted to see what ya all thought about the Weatherby vanguard 308. I want to get back into hunting since i have hooked up with some decent and fun people. Mostly looking to put down a big Colorado elk. Here is a pic of the same one that i am looking at my local gun shop for $800. Or would you suggest something else..

The only other one that i liked from all those that i was handling was the new Remington VTR..

4in100 · 09-21-2009, 11:43 AM

or just get the Rem. SPS and 200 bones?

Asterix · 09-21-2009, 12:09 PM

I looked at those and the stock seemed that it was more of a temporary one, and that i would be wanting to get a upgraded stock pretty quickly. The stats on the shots looked good though, and yea i would save a few hundred.

Ben Segrest · 09-21-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Asterix

The only other one that i liked from all those that i was handling was the new Remington VTR..

Norm · 09-21-2009, 12:32 PM

Since you won't save any weight with the 308 over 30-06 in that model, I'd go 06 and 180 gr slugs for elk. If you go with a 308, I would try a 165gr bonded cup and core, like remington core-lokt ultra bonded or Nosler Accubond.

I have a Howa 1500 and my son has a Vanguard in 06, both shoot great.

Texas97 · 09-21-2009, 12:33 PM

personally, i am not a fan of anything Weatherby....

freerider5.0 · 09-21-2009, 12:35 PM

I own a Weatherby Vanguard Varmit Special in .308. I FREAKIN LOVE IT!!!
I put 46 rounds through it yesterday.

SilverZuk · 09-21-2009, 12:37 PM

IIRC it is a Mossberg 1500. It was originally a S&W 1500 made by Howa. After mossberg dropped it, they sold as a Howa 1500.
I've hunted with one since I was 15. Started as a 243, rebarrelled in '95 in 7mm-08.
The action is exceptionally strong, and slightly heavy at the receiver. Mine was exceptionally accurate in 243, but the custom 7mm-08 is picky about bullets and case length.

Mine also needed trigger work out of the box. Some polishing and it is a very nice trigger.
Here is mine. The Bell Carleson stock may very well be serial #001

That was back when carbon fiber was brand new (1985-86)

Norm · 09-21-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas97

personally, i am not a fan of anything Weatherby....

It's a Howa 1500 with Weatherby logo .... hater

The trigger is adjustable on the newer models, my I had to tinker with the factory trigger on my circa 1985 1500 to get it 3-4LB's and still have a functional safety.

Haz-Mat 1 · 09-21-2009, 01:03 PM

The howa is a very good rifle(weatherby vanguard). They are moderatly priced. You may want to consider a savage in a 300 WSM or something like that. The 308 is enough as long as you are not taking very long shots and you are using a premium bullet. The o6 is about 150fps faster than a 308. Both good accurate cartridge.
Shot placement is the most important thing. Practice, practice practice.

Alot depends on the budget. I am not a fan of any of the NEW remingtons, as they have completly forgot about quality. The older ones, however are great. You would be surprised at what you could pick up a Winchester black shadow for, maybe in the $400 range. They are a pushfeed action, very similar to a remington and both seem to shoot well.
Just my opinions,
JM

Texas97 · 09-21-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm

It's a Howa 1500 with Weatherby logo .... hater

The trigger is adjustable on the newer models, my I had to tinker with the factory trigger on my circa 1985 1500 to get it 3-4LB's and still have a functional safety.

Well then maybe Howa is who i should have a beef with.

i would say you can get a damn nice Tikka (made by Beretta) for that scratch and have some left over. plus its a removable magazine, which i like. So its got that going for it, which is nice...

Asterix · 09-21-2009, 01:32 PM

Just looked up the Tikka, looks nice and the Tikka T3 Tactical is a sexy looking weapon but i can't see dropping 1400 on a rifle..

Norm · 09-21-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Asterix

Just looked up the Tikka, looks nice and the Tikka T3 Tactical is a sexy looking weapon but i can't see dropping 1400 on a rifle..

Tikka is a nice rifle, very accurate out of the box ( I think they have a 1" MOA guarantee ), basic model should be ~$500. I'm not a fan of the plastic removable magazine, more shit to loose/forget.

Aggro · 09-21-2009, 03:06 PM

I have a vanguard in .270 as my primary deer rifle and like it alot. It is very accurate (but only with 150's) and pretty old so I have no idea about the howa thing. Fancy wood stock etc.
I would go .06 for a primary elk rifle.

Pt_Ranger_V8 · 09-21-2009, 03:21 PM

weatherbys have nice actions, but they're ugly as sin

See about picking up an older Remington 700 or a Win model 70, and fuggedaboutit

kneedownnate · 09-21-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm

Tikka is a nice rifle, very accurate out of the box ( I think they have a 1" MOA guarantee ), basic model should be ~$500. I'm not a fan of the plastic removable magazine, more shit to loose/forget.

Why would the plastic magazine get loose? I have the same magazine in my remington 788 as was there when my dad bought it in the 70s, and I haven't loosed it yet

1RUSTYRIG · 09-21-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas97

Well then maybe Howa is who i should have a beef with.

i would say you can get a damn nice Tikka (made by Beretta) for that scratch and have some left over. plus its a removable magazine, which i like. So its got that going for it, which is nice...

I have a Tikka T3 Lite and I love it... it is chambered in .300WSM

Edit: I payed ~350 for my Tikka from Sportsmans Warehouse almost 2 years ago. That and my Leupold VX3 scope put at about $1k

09-21-2009, 11:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
Asterix Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20577 Location: Broomfield, Colorado Posts: 51	Question on Hunting rifle I wanted to see what ya all thought about the Weatherby vanguard 308. I want to get back into hunting since i have hooked up with some decent and fun people. Mostly looking to put down a big Colorado elk. Here is a pic of the same one that i am looking at my local gun shop for $800. Or would you suggest something else.. The only other one that i liked from all those that i was handling was the new Remington VTR.. __________________ Honey, I promise that this will be the last part i buy...

09-21-2009, 12:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Asterix Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20577 Location: Broomfield, Colorado Posts: 51	I looked at those and the stock seemed that it was more of a temporary one, and that i would be wanting to get a upgraded stock pretty quickly. The stats on the shots looked good though, and yea i would save a few hundred. __________________ Honey, I promise that this will be the last part i buy...

09-21-2009, 12:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Norm Poor White Trash Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4387 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 1,891	Since you won't save any weight with the 308 over 30-06 in that model, I'd go 06 and 180 gr slugs for elk. If you go with a 308, I would try a 165gr bonded cup and core, like remington core-lokt ultra bonded or Nosler Accubond. I have a Howa 1500 and my son has a Vanguard in 06, both shoot great. __________________ "My Border Collie is smarter than our president" Last edited by Norm; 09-21-2009 at 12:35 PM.

09-21-2009, 12:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Texas97 Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Mar 2008 Member # 111524 Location: Texas... we dont F&% around Posts: 3,283	personally, i am not a fan of anything Weatherby.... __________________ Place whitty quote from some random PBB member here CROSSFIT: Your workout is our warm-up.

09-21-2009, 12:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
SilverZuk Hillbilly Houndsman Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13420 Location: Kenna, West Virginia Posts: 6,868	IIRC it is a Mossberg 1500. It was originally a S&W 1500 made by Howa. After mossberg dropped it, they sold as a Howa 1500. I've hunted with one since I was 15. Started as a 243, rebarrelled in '95 in 7mm-08. The action is exceptionally strong, and slightly heavy at the receiver. Mine was exceptionally accurate in 243, but the custom 7mm-08 is picky about bullets and case length. Mine also needed trigger work out of the box. Some polishing and it is a very nice trigger. Here is mine. The Bell Carleson stock may very well be serial #001 That was back when carbon fiber was brand new (1985-86) Attached Images __________________ The penalty for punching someone in the mouth is way too high in our society. www.MountaineerOffroad.com Last edited by SilverZuk; 09-21-2009 at 12:40 PM.

09-21-2009, 01:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
Haz-Mat 1 Wheeler Join Date: Aug 2009 Member # 141313 Posts: 391	The howa is a very good rifle(weatherby vanguard). They are moderatly priced. You may want to consider a savage in a 300 WSM or something like that. The 308 is enough as long as you are not taking very long shots and you are using a premium bullet. The o6 is about 150fps faster than a 308. Both good accurate cartridge. Shot placement is the most important thing. Practice, practice practice. Alot depends on the budget. I am not a fan of any of the NEW remingtons, as they have completly forgot about quality. The older ones, however are great. You would be surprised at what you could pick up a Winchester black shadow for, maybe in the $400 range. They are a pushfeed action, very similar to a remington and both seem to shoot well. Just my opinions, JM

09-21-2009, 01:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Asterix Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20577 Location: Broomfield, Colorado Posts: 51	Just looked up the Tikka, looks nice and the Tikka T3 Tactical is a sexy looking weapon but i can't see dropping 1400 on a rifle.. __________________ Honey, I promise that this will be the last part i buy...

09-21-2009, 03:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
Aggro Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Dec 2000 Member # 2587 Location: 3845.859N 12034.534W (N. Ca) Future location of beachfront property. Posts: 4,027	I have a vanguard in .270 as my primary deer rifle and like it alot. It is very accurate (but only with 150's) and pretty old so I have no idea about the howa thing. Fancy wood stock etc. I would go .06 for a primary elk rifle.

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